And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. Daniel 2:43. It is clear from the verse "they" are not people. They are not of this earth? A repeat of Genesis 6?
Interesting verse Daniel 2:43 They are not of this earth?
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I always suspected that those little gray men were made of clay. This verse seems to tell us that they are very horny but can't make babies very well (which I think is a very good thing).
I believe you’re right on. In the last days before the return of the Lord as King, there will once again be giants in the earth used by Satan to rule over the nations (a product of fallen angels and the daughters of men).
I have heard him before and liked him, but, of course, use your own discernment and do your own research.
This is just talking about ten kings who mingle with the seed of men, But these ten kings are loosely bound.. Whch is why it is strong as rome, but at the same time, weak..
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amen daniels visions and interpretations through the rest of the book Explain it well he sees the same thing later in a different vision
I don't believe it's a repeat of Genesis 10. I do believe there are a lot of people out there spreading a lot of crazy ideas.
The Hebrew word "Nephilim" is the plural of "Nephil". No, there are no Nephilim under every rock. However, God will cause a multitude of demons to be released from the bottomless pit during the Tribulation. Verse 11 is the key which tells us that these fearsome creature are actually demons.
REVELATION 9: A MULTITUDE OF FEARSOME DEMONS
1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
Sometimes a joke is just a joke. And for the record, I believe more than one can fit under a rock if said rock is of sufficient size.
“And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.”
Numbers 13:32-33 KJV
Do you reckon this is literal ? That would make them probably five hundred feet tall or so
Its about the day and time we live in. Its what is happening now. But allot of believers praise God walk only by what they can see hear and feel.
Touching Rev 9 for me I don't read nor does it hint at for me that those are "demons". Now in the spiritual world yes but here it is not what man will see. Like the prince that with stood Gabriel who had to call on Michael. "“But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, " The prince of the kingdom of Persia? Real here but in the spiritual realm.... that's where the war is and on earth we see the results. Like say Iran or China what do we see in the natural? No demons no fallen angels yet "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." That is what rules over them.
But I believe most don't know how to fight. Those that do well family makes fun of them
Touching Rev 9 for me I don't read nor does it hint at for me that those are "demons". Now in the spiritual world yes but here it is not what man will see. Like the prince that with stood Gabriel who had to call on Michael. "“But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, " The prince of the kingdom of Persia? Real here but in the spiritual realm.... that's where the war is and on earth we see the results. Like say Iran or China what do we see in the natural? No demons no fallen angels yet "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." That is what rules over them.
But I believe most don't know how to fight. Those that do well family makes fun of them
Ummmm....that's a hard no. It's metaphorical. But how cool would it be to see a 500 foot tall man? Would he be called Gulliver?
well if you say a grasshopper is the size of a normal man 5-6 ft , and then how big is the giant that is like a man to a grasshopper ?
what I did was rough guess a grasshopper is about an inch off the ground and a man is about 72 inches tall and there are 12 inches per foot so every inch would equate to 6 ft
so 6 times 72 which is 430 or something like that , but the book of Enoch actually measures them at 450 ft and says they ate all the trees and people and animals ect
personally though I was just wondering if Cameron thought it is literally a comparable measurement or if it’s rhetorical and hyperbolic in natire when the men are compared to them as the size of grasshoppers
if a grasshopper equals a normal sized man you would arrive between 400 and 500 ft