Christian Nationalists Have Forgotten Their First Priority
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That is the point. Satan will call "good works" that "glorify the Lord" "Political Activism" which becomes "Christian Nationalism" which is "fascism".
If you listen to him then you are evil if you are concerned with how your children are raised and taught, you are evil if you are concerned with crime on the streets, you are evil if you stand against the wanton murder of babies, or even if you want to make peace rather than to start WWIII.
If you listen to him then you are evil if you are concerned with how your children are raised and taught, you are evil if you are concerned with crime on the streets, you are evil if you stand against the wanton murder of babies, or even if you want to make peace rather than to start WWIII.
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This is not how it used to be
https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/nearly-half-of-nyc-doe-grads-need-cuny-remedial-classes/
Nearly half of NYC DOE grads at CUNY need remedial classes
Homeschool is the solution.
https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/nearly-half-of-nyc-doe-grads-need-cuny-remedial-classes/
Nearly half of NYC DOE grads at CUNY need remedial classes
Homeschool is the solution.
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see Post #7, according to Dude it is Fascism in disguise.
This is how Satan slanders. No doubt there are fascists in various disguises and some may be disguised as Christians, when in fact they worship a dictatorial government rather than Jesus.
But then they call everything "Christian nationalism". Protests against abortion = Christian nationalism (aka Fascism), Parents going to school board meetings to complain about pornography (Christian nationalism which "wink, wink" is fascism and that is why they label those parents as domestic terrorists). People questioning the legitimacy of various practices during the last election and calling for audits (Christian nationalism, ie fascism, which is really white supremacy. But what about people like Larry Elder, well he is the "black face of white supremacy").
If you buy into this premise then Christians do not have any constitutional rights as citizens. They can't protest which is one of the rights in the Bill of Rights, they can't have a say in how their children are educated, etc. Ultimately what they are saying is what Lightfoot said out loud "if you aren't going to vote for me, then don't vote".
This is how Satan slanders. No doubt there are fascists in various disguises and some may be disguised as Christians, when in fact they worship a dictatorial government rather than Jesus.
But then they call everything "Christian nationalism". Protests against abortion = Christian nationalism (aka Fascism), Parents going to school board meetings to complain about pornography (Christian nationalism which "wink, wink" is fascism and that is why they label those parents as domestic terrorists). People questioning the legitimacy of various practices during the last election and calling for audits (Christian nationalism, ie fascism, which is really white supremacy. But what about people like Larry Elder, well he is the "black face of white supremacy").
If you buy into this premise then Christians do not have any constitutional rights as citizens. They can't protest which is one of the rights in the Bill of Rights, they can't have a say in how their children are educated, etc. Ultimately what they are saying is what Lightfoot said out loud "if you aren't going to vote for me, then don't vote".
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I already said this is not about you, it is about atheists who run the school system telling Christians how to raise their children.
Since you obviously missed it I'll highlight what I said. You are the one who is dishonest.
"This is not about Dude, this is about the public school system." (Post #36)
Since you obviously missed it I'll highlight what I said. You are the one who is dishonest.
"This is not about Dude, this is about the public school system." (Post #36)
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True Christians put their faith and trust in God. They may be engaged politically, stay up on the issues and vote; but their main focus is humility toward God and obedience to Him.
On the other hand, Christian nationalists (CN) put their faith in themselves and the political process over and above trust in God. CNs wear the name "Christian" but their primary agenda is political. On the extreme end they are violent and want to harm their opponents; whatever it takes to turn the US into the country they imagine it should be—essentially a benign "Christain" dictatorship. The moderate CNs have a lot of the same goals as their radical counterparts, but believe in using the political process.
In either case, the agenda isn't God's kingdom but man's kingdom calling itself God's kingdom.
On the other hand, Christian nationalists (CN) put their faith in themselves and the political process over and above trust in God. CNs wear the name "Christian" but their primary agenda is political. On the extreme end they are violent and want to harm their opponents; whatever it takes to turn the US into the country they imagine it should be—essentially a benign "Christain" dictatorship. The moderate CNs have a lot of the same goals as their radical counterparts, but believe in using the political process.
In either case, the agenda isn't God's kingdom but man's kingdom calling itself God's kingdom.
We all have a right to be free and to expect our vote to count in this country. They work for us, not the other way round!! They had mandates against the church and kept a hard line, but the liquor stores were still open. My mother had cancer during this time. Stage 4, aggressive and fast moving and we were afraid she wasn't going to be able to get the treatment she needed fast enough. But those abortion clinics were wide open. You push a dog into a corner, even the calmest, sweetest dog will bite. While I don't know the full details of Christian nationalist beliefs, in a country where parents are being labeled terrorist for protection their children, yeah I can see people wanting to run to what they feel is a safe place. That's why Asbury made the national news. People are wanting to get back to their roots, to the truth of the Word, to being allowed to say there are only two genders, to having a say in what their children are taught. And I for one don't daggon blame them!!
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Thank you for posting this article because it gives me a chance to address this misunderstanding. I have quoted
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, as ye go forth out of that house or that city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.
This is probably very close to what he is saying.
I have also quoted
Mark 6:11 And whatsoever place shall not receive you, and they hear you not, as ye go forth thence, shake off the dust that is under your feet for a testimony unto them.
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Luke 9: 5 And as many as receive you not, when ye depart from that city, shake off the dust from your feet for a testimony against them. 6 And they departed, and went throughout the villages, preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere.
If you read the context of Mark and Luke they were preaching the gospel. Once they left one city they moved to another preaching the gospel.
This article does not present that aspect, I do not know Rawles so I cannot say if he has a more balanced presentation.
What I am saying is certain cities and certain schools districts are definitely not welcoming Christians. On the one had we are citizens and we do have the rights of Citizens, but on the other hand we are ambassadors for the kingdom. You would not see an ambassador making a big stink if the US was passing a law he didn't like. He might make a public statement, and He might be withdrawn from that country, but an ambassador is not there to whine and cry about the laws.
So it may be that Rawls is saying that these others states will welcome the gospel, shake off the dust and come here. If so, fine. But if he is saying that Christians need to band together and find like minded believers to live with, that is contrary to our mission to preach the gospel to the entire earth.
Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, as ye go forth out of that house or that city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.
This is probably very close to what he is saying.
I have also quoted
Mark 6:11 And whatsoever place shall not receive you, and they hear you not, as ye go forth thence, shake off the dust that is under your feet for a testimony unto them.
and
Luke 9: 5 And as many as receive you not, when ye depart from that city, shake off the dust from your feet for a testimony against them. 6 And they departed, and went throughout the villages, preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere.
If you read the context of Mark and Luke they were preaching the gospel. Once they left one city they moved to another preaching the gospel.
This article does not present that aspect, I do not know Rawles so I cannot say if he has a more balanced presentation.
What I am saying is certain cities and certain schools districts are definitely not welcoming Christians. On the one had we are citizens and we do have the rights of Citizens, but on the other hand we are ambassadors for the kingdom. You would not see an ambassador making a big stink if the US was passing a law he didn't like. He might make a public statement, and He might be withdrawn from that country, but an ambassador is not there to whine and cry about the laws.
So it may be that Rawls is saying that these others states will welcome the gospel, shake off the dust and come here. If so, fine. But if he is saying that Christians need to band together and find like minded believers to live with, that is contrary to our mission to preach the gospel to the entire earth.
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I think Muslims will side with Christians on these views. As will many other religions. Mexicans were running this year on God, family, country and winning. This isn't just a Christian thing, which is what the Dems are trying to make it. Trying to get people to turn against us. It may blow up in their faces, I hope so.
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I would think that every person of any religion would be open to having a moment of prayer to start the school day.
The only ones who object that this violates their rights are atheists.
About 4% of Americans identify as atheists. My point is this is fine with me, if 80% of school children were to leave the public school to homeschool through their synagogue, or mosque or church, then fine, the rights of Atheists will rule the day in the public school.
The only ones who object that this violates their rights are atheists.
About 4% of Americans identify as atheists. My point is this is fine with me, if 80% of school children were to leave the public school to homeschool through their synagogue, or mosque or church, then fine, the rights of Atheists will rule the day in the public school.
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In the world not of it. Back in the day my mother said my grandfather would say of anyone that had a tv that the devil was on their rooftop. Not far from the truth. We can engage in society and still not overcome by them and their beliefs. An old song Gaither use to sing talked about building an ark for your family. There needs to be a safe place for children. Had I any children they would not attend a public school. I do not care what I would have to give up, a smaller home, older car, less material things. I would not have my child in public school, period.
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The parents are being foolish. Yes, they have every right to vote in new board members to the school board, they have every right to show up to meetings, and they have every right to openly complain and even work to remove board members through the process of election or impeachment.
But being right doesn't make you wise. How long will this process take? Three years? That is incredibly optimistic, it probably took six decades to get where we are now, if not longer. But let's say 5 years is reasonable time frame to have elections, vote people out, change rules and then begin to implement those changes.
If you child is in first grade they will be in sixth grade by then. So best case scenario this won't have any positive impact on your children who are in school.
On the other hand if you were to pull your kids out of the school then you wouldn't be allowed to go to the school board meeting.
Therefore the only effective thing that a parent could say at a school board meeting is "I have two children in the elementary school, one is in first grade, the other is in second. After looking at....I have come to the conclusion that I don't want you teaching my children for the following reasons....As of tomorrow I will be homeschooling. Good bye, I will be praying for all of you".
Imagine instead of seeing a packed school board meeting with 200 angry parents you saw that, one after another announcing they will pull their kids from the school as of that evening. That would be far more powerful. Far more effective and much less foolish.
But being right doesn't make you wise. How long will this process take? Three years? That is incredibly optimistic, it probably took six decades to get where we are now, if not longer. But let's say 5 years is reasonable time frame to have elections, vote people out, change rules and then begin to implement those changes.
If you child is in first grade they will be in sixth grade by then. So best case scenario this won't have any positive impact on your children who are in school.
On the other hand if you were to pull your kids out of the school then you wouldn't be allowed to go to the school board meeting.
Therefore the only effective thing that a parent could say at a school board meeting is "I have two children in the elementary school, one is in first grade, the other is in second. After looking at....I have come to the conclusion that I don't want you teaching my children for the following reasons....As of tomorrow I will be homeschooling. Good bye, I will be praying for all of you".
Imagine instead of seeing a packed school board meeting with 200 angry parents you saw that, one after another announcing they will pull their kids from the school as of that evening. That would be far more powerful. Far more effective and much less foolish.
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I don't disagree, for parents that are able to do that. My sister did that were her kids for a time and then her husband decided they could no longer afford it. My husband and I had the boys for a week that summer when she told us they were taking them out of Christian school. I was very upset and felt in my spirit it was the wrong move. But I didn't have the extra money to help them. I still feel it was the wrong move but there is nothing I can do about it. But as I said, if I had kids they would not attend public school.
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