Hell, Sheol, Hades...
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You know so far you have not offered a really good argument for your position, at least @Magenta had me thinking and analyzing and reconsidering.
Which I did, and the doctrine still came up short. simply based on the meaning of "destroy" in context throughout scripture.
No where is it used to mean "de-create."
Done.
Which I did, and the doctrine still came up short. simply based on the meaning of "destroy" in context throughout scripture.
No where is it used to mean "de-create."
Done.
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Fire is interesting. It has the ability to cause chemical reactions to change
the basic nature of combustible materials, but it cannot annihilate their
components. For example; fire destroys coal's original form and converts it
into pollution, e.g. CO2, nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter,
and heavy metals.
Now, we know from Matt 10:28 that the human soul is able to survive the
death of one's body. But we also know from that same verse that there is a
place whose fire is such that it's able to destroy the human soul.
Is it possible the human soul is similar to most other combustible materials
in that it's constructed with a variety of components; and if so, what happens
to those components when the soul is destroyed in that weird fire? Do they
become pollutants? Can they be collected and recombined to form something
other than a human soul?
The soul of a demon seems reasonable to me because according to Matt 25:41
there is a fire prepared for the Devil and his minions. If the souls of the lost are
converted into demonic beings, they'll fit right in.
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Fire is interesting. It has the ability to cause chemical reactions to change
the basic nature of combustible materials, but it cannot annihilate their
components. For example; fire destroys coal's original form and converts it
into pollution, e.g. CO2, nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide, particulate matter,
and heavy metals.
Now, we know from Matt 10:28 that the human soul is able to survive the
death of one's body. But we also know from that same verse that there is a
place whose fire is such that it's able to destroy the human soul.
Is it possible the human soul is similar to most other combustible materials
in that it's constructed with a variety of components; and if so, what happens
to those components when the soul is destroyed in that weird fire? Do they
become pollutants? Can they be collected and recombined to form something
other than a human soul?
The soul of a demon seems reasonable to me because according to Matt 25:41
there is a fire prepared for the Devil and his minions. If the souls of the lost are
converted into demonic beings, they'll fit right in.
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The Greek words translated "consuming fire" refer to a conflagration, i.e. a
fire so fierce that it's very difficult to extinguish once it gets going, e.g.
Oregon's Tillamook Burn.
But is God a fire? No, according to John 4:24 God is spirit rather than flame.
So we really ought to keep Heb 12:29 in context and apply it as a figure of
speech instead of a physical reality. (cf. Deut 4:23-24)
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The Greek words translated "consuming fire" refer to a conflagration, i.e. a
fire so fierce that it's very difficult to extinguish once it gets going, e.g.
Oregon's Tillamook Burn.
But is God a fire? No, according to John 4:24 God is spirit rather than flame.
So we really ought to keep Heb 12:29 in context and apply it as a figure of
speech instead of a physical reality. (cf. Deut 4:23-24)
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We have drilled down several hundred feet into your "points" and come up with nothing.
Interesting how you never mention the Lake of Fire. That might be problematic for your drilling operation.
It also contains much in the way of future events that don't match up with your pipedreams. That is probably why you are trying to relegate it to a book of symbolic fables.
You got it.
Strait from the Oyst.
Interesting how you never mention the Lake of Fire. That might be problematic for your drilling operation.
It also contains much in the way of future events that don't match up with your pipedreams. That is probably why you are trying to relegate it to a book of symbolic fables.
You got it.
Strait from the Oyst.
Lol. I can't recall exactly what verse but I've kept the spirit anyway since I read it. Something about measuring something-something (virtue related) by (not so much all those that I love but) all those that love me
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