Usury - Abuse of the Low Income Family
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Ha, ha. It's actually easier for me to believe that charging interest is not evil. I mean, how easy is it making a living by charging someone else to use my money, but if their venture fails, it's all on them and they've still got to pay it all back or I take their house and car and whatever else?
Nah, my belief that interest is usury and usury is theft (or plunder) comes from the bible. It was permitted in the Old Testament to charge usury to enemies, but the fact remains that usury was any amount (not an excessive amount). If Christians want to justify it, I'm sure they could argue they're charging usury to our enemies (the heathens or pagans), but that doesn't change what it really is.
Nah, my belief that interest is usury and usury is theft (or plunder) comes from the bible. It was permitted in the Old Testament to charge usury to enemies, but the fact remains that usury was any amount (not an excessive amount). If Christians want to justify it, I'm sure they could argue they're charging usury to our enemies (the heathens or pagans), but that doesn't change what it really is.
Can you provide chapter and verse on why it is evil for me to pay interest if I borrow money to buy a car?
It seems rather unfair to expect a banker to loan me money out of the goodness of his heart. Even if banks did that, it would seem unfair to me. I am using their money to buy something now instead of waiting until I have the money later to buy it myself. They should be recompensed somehow.
What you claim directly conflicts with my ethics, so I'm going to need a little explanation here.
It seems rather unfair to expect a banker to loan me money out of the goodness of his heart. Even if banks did that, it would seem unfair to me. I am using their money to buy something now instead of waiting until I have the money later to buy it myself. They should be recompensed somehow.
What you claim directly conflicts with my ethics, so I'm going to need a little explanation here.
Just do a search for usury. When the banker (i.e. a real banker who lends real money, not some make-believe fiat debt created for free by the government or its cronies), the banker lends you money, and he gets his money back. What has he actually done, that he should be recompensed? If the money is at risk - that is investment, so he shares in the risk (so he has no right to demand it all back if you lose it all or take a loss), or he shares in the reward if you make a profit. But usury (interest as demonstrated in previous posts) where the banker takes interest for the lent money and maintains the right to get it all back irrespective of whether the investment succeeds or fails is condemned as dishonest like theft.
Deuteronomy 23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:
Leviticus 25:36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
Ezekiel 22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.
Deuteronomy 23:19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:
Leviticus 25:36 Take thou no usury of him, or increase: but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
Ezekiel 22:12 In thee have they taken gifts to shed blood; thou hast taken usury and increase, and thou hast greedily gained of thy neighbours by extortion, and hast forgotten me, saith the Lord GOD.
