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soberxp

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it’s about prophesy and what God said would happen. It is his reputation at stake.

When God says something will happen. It will happen..

If we do not like what God says, and make a symbolized interpretation out of the text. God reputation as one who can tell the future is stained..
It is false prophets, false prophecies, that defile the name of God.

I'm talking about what the Bible tells us very clearly.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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It is false prophets, false prophecies, that defile the name of God.

I'm talking about what the Bible tells us very clearly.
So am I,

Jesus said, when you see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place...

there must be a holy place for the abomination which causes desolation to take place

hence there must be a temple built..

A false prophet says somethign God said will happen will not happen
 

soberxp

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So am I,

Jesus said, when you see the abomination of desolation standing in the holy place...

there must be a holy place for the abomination which causes desolation to take place

hence there must be a temple built..

A false prophet says somethign God said will happen will not happen
Okay,I got you.
 

cv5

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It's not about sin, it's about worshiping God. What God tells me and teaches me is that Jesus is the one who rebuilt the temple three days later, with the Father in him.

They don't understand God's word. They are doing something to fulfill their own will.

We're not worshiping Israel, we're worshiping God and word of God.

Render therefore unto Israel the things which be Israel's, and unto God the things which be God's.
Here take a look at this. It will help you get a grip on the real nature of the AoD.

https://christianchat.com/threads/post-trib-rapture.209486/post-5012158

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"If memory serves, GaryA believes that when Jesus said, "when ye shall SEE the abomination [singular] of desolation [singular] by Daniel the prophet," that He meant "[see something] LIKE" what Daniel referred to... He in no way believes that Daniel 12:11's (with its specific "day-amounts") "the abomination [singular] of desolation [singular] SET UP [H5414]" refers to anything FUTURE TO JESUS' words in Matt24... but that Jesus was actually saying, "when you see something LIKE that [the AOD in HISTORY/PAST]"
 

Radius

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Take a look and you will change your mind. Secular Israeli archaeologists definitely have found the correct zone.....they are getting close. The true location lies within the precincts of the City of David, Israeli territory.


I did my due diligence and watched the first video you linked. All of it. It just didn't do it for me. There were some good points, but it wasn't nearly enough. A big reason is the space. There's no way a 500 cubit wall could stand where the Ophel is. No room.
Funnily enough, there was a video linked in the first comment that cemented the fact even more that the Temple Mount truly is the real site of the original and second Temples.
 

cv5

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I'd need to see digs and archeological evidence of the Temple being on the Ophel or anywhere other than the Mount.
That is exactly what they did in the videos I posted. The digs are quite conclusive.
 

soberxp

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Here take a look at this. It will help you get a grip on the real nature of the AoD.

https://christianchat.com/threads/post-trib-rapture.209486/post-5012158

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"If memory serves, GaryA believes that when Jesus said, "when ye shall SEE the abomination [singular] of desolation [singular] by Daniel the prophet," that He meant "[see something] LIKE" what Daniel referred to... He in no way believes that Daniel 12:11's (with its specific "day-amounts") "the abomination [singular] of desolation [singular] SET UP [H5414]" refers to anything FUTURE TO JESUS' words in Matt24... but that Jesus was actually saying, "when you see something LIKE that [the AOD in HISTORY/PAST]"
I have no objection to them building any temple.
I think they are truly abomination of desolation.
 

soberxp

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they are not an idol placed in a holy place that renders the holy place desolate or unclean..
They just turn Israel's glory into a tradition. They don't understand God's ways. They misunderstand God's power and glory,They shouldn't be like this.

I feel great pity for Israel.

It's my responsibility to make things right.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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They just turn Israel's glory into a tradition. They don't understand God's ways. They misunderstand God's power and glory,They shouldn't be like this.

I feel great pity for Israel.

It's my responsibility to make things right.
I feel great pity for them also. As Paul told us to in Romans 11.

But you do not callthem something they can not be

An abomination which causes desolation is an abominable thing, an Idol, a detestable thing, which is placed in a holy place. rendering it unclean or desolate.

We have an example of them, When Antiochus epiphanies slaughtered a pig in the time most holy place, enduring it unclean and stopping sacrifice and burnt offering

when Jesus said, when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of By Daniel the prophet. standing in the holy place.. Run, because then thee will be a great tribulation such as never been seen before or after.

Thats an event, which Jesus said would happen. It does not matter if we want it to or not. Jesus said it will. and it is a sign that the world is about to see the wrath of God.
 

cv5

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I think they are truly abomination of desolation.
That needs to be repented of. A lot of "replacement theology" types foster this crummy attitude toward Israel.

We should be praying for Israel and rejoicing in their imminent redemption to the Lord that they do not yet know.
 

cv5

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I did my due diligence and watched the first video you linked. All of it. It just didn't do it for me. There were some good points, but it wasn't nearly enough. A big reason is the space. There's no way a 500 cubit wall could stand where the Ophel is. No room.
Funnily enough, there was a video linked in the first comment that cemented the fact even more that the Temple Mount truly is the real site of the original and second Temples.
BTW....there are NO digs ongoing at the Antonia Fortress complex. You cannot prove much that way.
 

Radius

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That is exactly what they did in the videos I posted. The digs are quite conclusive.
There just isn't enough room. 500 cubits would put the temple out OVER the valley and touching the Mount of Olives. There's just no way. The land is just too narrow.

Also, the archeological digs in your video yielded what I believe to be apart of King David's Palace, but there were no remains of the Temple. Nelson Walters JUST did a video on that dig, and he thinks it could be Melchizedek's Altar.
 

VCO

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There just isn't enough room. 500 cubits would put the temple out OVER the valley and touching the Mount of Olives. There's just no way. The land is just too narrow.

Also, the archeological digs in your video yielded what I believe to be apart of King David's Palace, but there were no remains of the Temple. Nelson Walters JUST did a video on that dig, and he thinks it could be Melchizedek's Altar.


He is totally Confused.

You also did not know, and I invited you to read my posts, but you did not.

132 A.D. the Prince Simon bar Kohkba, over through the X Legion, and kicked the Romans out of the country. He wanted to begin to build the THIRD TEMPLE right then and there, BUT the Roman had already build a Roman Temple to Jupiter on the exact site, where the Ophel is and the Temple was. ONE BIG PROBLEM, he had to remove a LOT of bedrock because in his mind the fact there was a Temple to Jupiter there, means all the BEDROCK was Defiled. So HE TURNED the TRUE Mt. Zion into a Rock Quarry, to remove the defiled bedrock. Three Years later, when the Bedrock was almost all gone, the Romans came back with 10 Legions, and in a battle for Jerusalem, Prince Simon got KILLED. So the Mt. Zion was ALTARED significantly, and I DID MY HOME WORK and YOU Did Not do your Home Work.

I have a RULE about ARGUING, BASED ON SCRIPTURE.

2 Corinthians 13:2 (GW)
2 I already warned you when I was with you the second time, and even though I'm not there now, I'm warning you again. When I visit you again, I won't spare you. That goes for all those who formerly led sinful lives as well as for all the others.

Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

THIS IS THE FIRST WARNING ABOUT ARGUING. Start your OWN THREAD, AND DO NOT TRY TO HIJACK THIS THREAD.

On the THIRD WARNING I will put you on my IGNORE LIST. That Means I will have all your posts banned from ever showing up on my PC, and encourage other to do likewise.

You have a good day!
 

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VCO

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Is the retaining wall part of the fortress? Which is ALL that the eyewitness saw standing??

Thats means it CAN NOT BE ANY PART OF THE TEMPLE.. Which was utterly destroyed. As the eyewitness said, you could not even tell it was there. Just like Jesus prophesied.
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If you are talking about the Western Wall, No, it is not part of the Temple, it is Part of the Fortress of ANTONIA.

I know what this big buiding is:

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IN 1857 THERE WAS NOTHING BUT TWO FARMS WHERE CITY OF DAVID NOW STANDS. IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW THE CITY OF DAVID IS ancient Jerusalem.

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VCO

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I finally got through this very long thread that's been in the making for the past few years. Hats off to VCO for keeping vigil over any fresh news about the building of the third temple!

-=<*>=-

This is my stance....

After Daniel was told all these fantastic prophecies, he said:

Daniel 12:8 - I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?”

Then the angel near him said:

Daniel 12:9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

So right now things are not clear to me even if it seems clear as day to some people. I think VCO makes a good case about where the temple might be, but so does the other camp.

What I'm going to do is just wait and see where God actually lets the temple be built and I'll accept it wherever that may be. All I know clearly at this point is that it's going to be built.

-=<*>=-

Thank you, VCO, for your dedication to this issue! :)(y):giggle:

My Pleasure, and the Lord's Business. Take a close look at this picture.

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See the two arrows up to on the left wall. Do you know what they are pointing at?
If you have ever tore down and old shower stall with Tiles glued on them, then you will know.
I found a group of Photos online, with every one labeled stables in the Temple Mount, except this one.
Why was this on in that group of Photos, unless this is a staircase lead upstairs in the same building.
But Obviously their used to be TILES cemented there. Most likely muslim looters pulled them off, after finding People will pay $750 - $1895 dollars or more for one of those tiles. If this is indeed one of the in the Southeast corner of the so-called Temple Mount,
My guess it one of these style that indicate it is two rows of Roman X Cavalry Tiles.

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Why is this study, so intriguing to me ? ? ?

For one, I am absolutely convinced we will be called home to heaven for the Wedding of the Lamb before the first stone is laid.

Matthew 25:13 (ISV)
13 So keep on watching, because you don't know the day or the hour."
 

cv5

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He is totally Confused.

You also did not know, and I invited you to read my posts, but you did not.

132 A.D. the Prince Simon bar Kohkba, over through the X Legion, and kicked the Romans out of the country. He wanted to begin to build the THIRD TEMPLE right then and there, BUT the Roman had already build a Roman Temple to Jupiter on the exact site, where the Ophel is and the Temple was. ONE BIG PROBLEM, he had to remove a LOT of bedrock because in his mind the fact there was a Temple to Jupiter there, means all the BEDROCK was Defiled. So HE TURNED the TRUE Mt. Zion into a Rock Quarry, to remove the defiled bedrock. Three Years later, when the Bedrock was almost all gone, the Romans came back with 10 Legions, and in a battle for Jerusalem, Prince Simon got KILLED. So the Mt. Zion was ALTARED significantly, and I DID MY HOME WORK and YOU Did Not do your Home Work.

I have a RULE about ARGUING, BASED ON SCRIPTURE.

2 Corinthians 13:2 (GW)
2 I already warned you when I was with you the second time, and even though I'm not there now, I'm warning you again. When I visit you again, I won't spare you. That goes for all those who formerly led sinful lives as well as for all the others.

Titus 3:9-11 (HCSB)
9 But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 Reject a divisive person after a first and second warning,
11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sins, being self-condemned.

THIS IS THE FIRST WARNING ABOUT ARGUING. Start your OWN THREAD, AND DO NOT TRY TO HIJACK THIS THREAD.

On the THIRD WARNING I will put you on my IGNORE LIST. That Means I will have all your posts banned from ever showing up on my PC, and encourage other to do likewise.

You have a good day!
Yep. The Jupiter temple was in fact erected upon the former Temple location.

The Jupiter temple DEFINITELY WAS NOT built within the precincts of the Fortress Antonia.

Another infallible truth indicating the true Temple location.
 

VCO

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I did my due diligence and watched the first video you linked. All of it. It just didn't do it for me. There were some good points, but it wasn't nearly enough. A big reason is the space. There's no way a 500 cubit wall could stand where the Ophel is. No room.
Funnily enough, there was a video linked in the first comment that cemented the fact even more that the Temple Mount truly is the real site of the original and second Temples.
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Let's put it to the TEST.
Wikipedia talking about a Transit Bus said this: It was available primarily as a 40-foot (12.19 m) long.

So every Three buses in length equals 120 feet, so that long straight away has (outer wall dementions) to equal 560 feet, because at least 40 feet of it fell into the Kidron Valley due to Earthquake, and Rain. Now the ONLY PART of it Has to be FLAT to the width, plus double in length to the east, is the TEMPLE plus the Men's Court, Plus the Women's Court.

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Your Theory is BUSTED!

Almost a hundred feet of this Dirt Hillside slid into the Kidron Valley over the years.
That makes the original border with the Kidron, dead even with the East wall of the so-called Temple Mount .
And that Farmhouse is somewhere in the AIR.