Look around you.
You are refusing to accept a cloud of witnesses - but what is true and what is not does not at all depend on your unbelief.
Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked
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Look around you.
You are refusing to accept a cloud of witnesses - but what is true and what is not does not at all depend on your unbelief.
I'm not sure what you want me to see. I see that Jesus was given authority and a command from his Father to do something. All of the power came from the Father.
John 14
10Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
I think there's probably at least two dozen or so verses that says God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. I think Jesus had free will and didn't have to obey the commands the Father had given him. I believe that's why he was speaking like that.
I do believe in Christ's divinity. Jesus is from above and he's the Son of God.
Thank you for the well wishes. I hope you learn to recognize who Jesus really is somewhere down the line.
Farewell. I wish you the best.
I want you to see Jesus, Yes the Word came from the Father
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
And I showed you the Spirit did And Jesus had the power to raise himself from the dead, You cant argue against the Godhead because you know it is in scripture, The problem is if you deny the Word you are not trusting in what God said
Jesus laid down his life willingly and Jesus had the power to take it up again
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
you cant separate the word from the one that spoke it unless you claim the speaker is a liar, Jesus said he would raise his Body in three days do you believe him?
In Acts 2:24, Peter says that “God raised [Jesus] from the dead.” So that’s the basic answer. God resurrected Jesus. As we read more Scripture, that basic answer becomes more nuanced.
The Bible indicates that all three Persons of the Trinity were involved in Jesus’ resurrection. Galatians 1:1 says that the Father raised Jesus from the dead. First Peter 3:18 says that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (see also Romans 1:4, and note that Romans 8:11 clearly says that God will resurrect believers “through His Spirit”). And in John 2:19 Jesus predicts that He will raise Himself from the dead (see also John 10:18). So, when we answer the question of who resurrected Jesus, we can say God did. And by that we can mean it was the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
It may seem puzzling how Jesus could be said to raise Himself. How can a dead man have any say in his own resurrection? The answer is that Jesus was more than a man who died; He was the eternal Son of God incarnate. Wicked men could kill His body, but they could not change His eternal nature or diminish His divine power. In John 10:17–18 Jesus says something that no mere mortal could ever say: “I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.” No one else in the history of the world has ever had the authority both to lay down his life and to raise it up again.
Furthermore, Jesus said, “I am the resurrection and the life” (John 11:25). He claimed to be the resurrection Himself; He has absolute authority over life and death (Revelation 1:18). Jesus is God. He could say He would raise up His body on the third day because He, being God, has power over death.
Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, and by that we mean all three Persons of the Trinity were involved. All three Persons of the Trinity participated in creation (1 Corinthians 8:6; Genesis 1:1–2). All three are involved in salvation (John 3:6, 16). And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Christ Jesus.
How many works must be completed today to sustain my salvation? Asking for a friend.
As should you.
Gen 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Deu 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Mar 12:29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Gal 3:20
Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Well....I know those passages because I gathered my own manna and gleaned the fields.
Do the same and we can discuss. Thanks bro.
I am not 100% convinced that RM's take on Jesus' "divinity" is the same as yours. But hey.....I am not a mind reader either.
How does one know if a person is working to sustain salvation, unless they tell you? Asking for a friend.
When someone creates a thread “debunking” eternal security, that person is working to maintain salvation.
divine
1 of 3adjective
di·vine də-ˈvīn
diviner; divinest
Synonyms of divine
1
religion
a
: of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God (see GOD entry 1 sense 1) or a god (see GOD entry 1 sense 2)
divine inspiration
divine love
praying for divine intervention
b
: being a deity
the divine Savior
a divine ruler
c
: directed to a deity
divine worship