Christ kept the Law of Moses, so....
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correcting the wrong translations verse 176 more accurately says.
176 I am missing, like a slain Lamb. Seek(find) Your Servant, for I do not forget Your commandments.
He also again stated His obedience and blamelessness in the last stanza as He did in many other stanzas as well.
He was asking to be raised in the last verse according to the Father's promise and commandment in the law that He would live for doing what was required of Him in the law. That requirement was giving His life to save us.
176 I am missing, like a slain Lamb. Seek(find) Your Servant, for I do not forget Your commandments.
He also again stated His obedience and blamelessness in the last stanza as He did in many other stanzas as well.
He was asking to be raised in the last verse according to the Father's promise and commandment in the law that He would live for doing what was required of Him in the law. That requirement was giving His life to save us.
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apologies for getting frustrated. there are some who are seeing it. grateful for that. appreciate the work of others. There is no other valid explanation for Psalm 119. It has to be the Son's prayer. Knowing that reveals so much about Him, His Father and the law which was His path to life and being raised again. Indeed, the law required Him to die to save us. That explains Him asking 16 times to be raised again in Psalm 119 according to the promise of life in the law to Him.
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He also refers to Himself as His Father's Servant all through Psalm 119 which reflects what Philippians says as you quoted previously.
From HNV Philippians 2 with additional edits.
5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua, 6 Who, existing in the form of YAH, didn’t consider equality with YAH a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a Servant, being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to the point of death, yes, the death of the cross. 9 Therefore YAH also highly exalted Him, and gave to Him the Name which is above every name, 10 that at the Name of Yeshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai, to the glory of YAH the Father.
From HNV Philippians 2 with additional edits.
5 Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua, 6 Who, existing in the form of YAH, didn’t consider equality with YAH a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a Servant, being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, He humbled Himself, becoming obedient to the point of death, yes, the death of the cross. 9 Therefore YAH also highly exalted Him, and gave to Him the Name which is above every name, 10 that at the Name of Yeshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Yeshua the Messiah is Adonai, to the glory of YAH the Father.
It is impossible that Christ is the speaker in Psalm 119.
Psalms 119:5-6
Oh, that my ways were directed to keep Your statutes! Then I would not be ashamed, When I look into all Your commandments.
The speaker of Psalm 119 has sin in himself, but in Christ there is no sin. The speaker of Psalm 119 is convicted by the Law, but Jesus Christ is spotless.
Please do not spread false doctrines among the unlearned.
It is important that actual Christians have integrity.
Examine the things you have been indoctrinated into and immediately reject them and cease from spreading them if they denigrate the Lord.
Psalms 119:5-6
Oh, that my ways were directed to keep Your statutes! Then I would not be ashamed, When I look into all Your commandments.
The speaker of Psalm 119 has sin in himself, but in Christ there is no sin. The speaker of Psalm 119 is convicted by the Law, but Jesus Christ is spotless.
Please do not spread false doctrines among the unlearned.
It is important that actual Christians have integrity.
Examine the things you have been indoctrinated into and immediately reject them and cease from spreading them if they denigrate the Lord.
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Keeping the law is spiritual and in the heart.
What we do is a result of whats in the heart.
We have not got the abilty to keep the law perfectly in our strength. We are so corrupted by sin we will fail somewhere no matter how strong we think we are.
But by the power of Jesus in us we can. Through the Spirit we can do all things.
Jesus kept it perfectly because He completely surrendered himself to do the Fathers will.
By faith we can access the same Spirit.
What we do is a result of whats in the heart.
We have not got the abilty to keep the law perfectly in our strength. We are so corrupted by sin we will fail somewhere no matter how strong we think we are.
But by the power of Jesus in us we can. Through the Spirit we can do all things.
Jesus kept it perfectly because He completely surrendered himself to do the Fathers will.
By faith we can access the same Spirit.
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Maybe it will better help if we define terms, as I don't think there's disagreement. Here are how I roughly define the following terms:
mortal - A being subject to sickness and death
immortal - A being not subject to sickness or death; divinity/"glory".
man(kind) - A being made a little lower than angels, but higher than animals. From within this class, you have types of mankind: man, woman, and child.
Spirit - An immortal being. from within this class, you have types: angels, principalities, the unclean (demons), the Godhead, etc.
god - A being that possesses authority over other beings. From within this class, many different beings are "gods": man, angels, The Son, The Most High
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Being a "god" doesn't necessarily equate to being "immortal". For example, during His ministry, Christ points out that those who receive the Word of God are called "gods" in scripture.
John 10:34-35
Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken...
Psalms 82:6-7
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
...so scripturally, it's accurate to say that kings and prophets were also "gods" among men even though they were still "mortal". The Word instructed them to lead or judge a group of people with His authority. Also, angels/principalities are "gods" because they have authority over nations. The Son is "god" over all beings of heaven and of earth, and the Father is the "god" of the highest authority (i.e. Most High). We capitalized "God" as if it is a name, and out of respect, but it is a title of authority. Scripturally, parents would be considered "gods" over children. And mankind is "god" over animals.
Godhood = Authority Over.
Now when we say a person is a "man" when compared to a "god" we immediately equate it to "mortality". However, there was a time in mankind's history when man was also "immortal" (just before the sin in the garden), and the plan is to restore mankind back to that state when death is destroyed in the coming kingdom. So it's not necessarily accurate to equate man and mortal together either. In fact, Enoch is immortal now.
Man = A Type of Being.
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So then we consider Christ...this is how I see it based on scripture and using the definitions above:
1) He was a Spirit (prior to earthly ministry) who is God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
2) He became a mortal man (emptying himself) who remained God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
3) He died as a man and was resurrected as a man who remained God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
4) He ascended to heaven to become a Lifegiving Spirit and continues as God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
mortal - A being subject to sickness and death
immortal - A being not subject to sickness or death; divinity/"glory".
man(kind) - A being made a little lower than angels, but higher than animals. From within this class, you have types of mankind: man, woman, and child.
Spirit - An immortal being. from within this class, you have types: angels, principalities, the unclean (demons), the Godhead, etc.
god - A being that possesses authority over other beings. From within this class, many different beings are "gods": man, angels, The Son, The Most High
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Being a "god" doesn't necessarily equate to being "immortal". For example, during His ministry, Christ points out that those who receive the Word of God are called "gods" in scripture.
John 10:34-35
Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken...
Psalms 82:6-7
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
...so scripturally, it's accurate to say that kings and prophets were also "gods" among men even though they were still "mortal". The Word instructed them to lead or judge a group of people with His authority. Also, angels/principalities are "gods" because they have authority over nations. The Son is "god" over all beings of heaven and of earth, and the Father is the "god" of the highest authority (i.e. Most High). We capitalized "God" as if it is a name, and out of respect, but it is a title of authority. Scripturally, parents would be considered "gods" over children. And mankind is "god" over animals.
Godhood = Authority Over.
Now when we say a person is a "man" when compared to a "god" we immediately equate it to "mortality". However, there was a time in mankind's history when man was also "immortal" (just before the sin in the garden), and the plan is to restore mankind back to that state when death is destroyed in the coming kingdom. So it's not necessarily accurate to equate man and mortal together either. In fact, Enoch is immortal now.
Man = A Type of Being.
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So then we consider Christ...this is how I see it based on scripture and using the definitions above:
1) He was a Spirit (prior to earthly ministry) who is God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
2) He became a mortal man (emptying himself) who remained God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
3) He died as a man and was resurrected as a man who remained God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
4) He ascended to heaven to become a Lifegiving Spirit and continues as God of all heaven and earth, as Son.
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He faced death on the cross as a Man when He had emptied Himself. He was tempted in all ways as we are which means He suffered as a Man and did not turn from His path or the death He faced. How then would the Scriptures be fulfilled?. He accomplished our salvation as a Man through the Eternal Spirit. Thus His prayers in the Psalms and Psalm 119 to the Father.
Regarding Psalm 119; you both may find the following interesting...it's something I'm still exploring...
All scripture must harmonize, and scripture says Christ has no sin, but clearly, portions of the passage apply to Christ. Consider these points:
- Moses was commanded to craft the mercy seat into two cherubs made from a single piece of beaten gold, "according to the pattern" Moses was given. Exodus 25:18
- On the day of atonement, cleansing blood was to be sprinkled on the east end of the mercy seat (i.e., the left hand when looking at it from our perspective), and never on the west end (i.e., the right hand from our perspective), and also in front of the mercy seat. Leviticus 16. The front being sprinkled is easy enough to understand (we come kneeling before the throne of mercy). The west end // righthand makes sense too (Christ ascended to the right hand of the Father, so He wouldn't need cleansing blood). But the lefthand...
- The ritual also details two goats, one killed and the other left to go free.
- Then we are told in Romans 3:25 that Christ is the mercy seat (some versions say "propitiation"). So the literal fulfillment of the image given to Moses.
- Revelation 3:21 says He that overcomes will be granted by Christ to sit with Him on His throne as He sits on His Father's throne. Together they will rule the nations.
- Hebrews 9:5 says that there's more to delve into with regard to the imagery of the two Cherubs but such wasn't to be discussed at the time.
- Finally, we have imagery during the gospels of Christ and Barabas being presented together for judgment, where the guilty went free while the innocent paid the price. Many older copies of the passage noted that Barabas' full name was "Jesus Barabas".
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Twin Cherub mercy seat...twin goats...two men named "Jesus"...
So it's likely that we weren't meant to attribute all of Psalms 119 to Christ, but neither are we to negate the passage from Him simply because it mentioned sin. Part of it applies to Him and part of it applies to those in Him whom He cleanses...and they are One by Faith. (i.e., a single piece of beaten gold).
All scripture must harmonize, and scripture says Christ has no sin, but clearly, portions of the passage apply to Christ. Consider these points:
- Moses was commanded to craft the mercy seat into two cherubs made from a single piece of beaten gold, "according to the pattern" Moses was given. Exodus 25:18
- On the day of atonement, cleansing blood was to be sprinkled on the east end of the mercy seat (i.e., the left hand when looking at it from our perspective), and never on the west end (i.e., the right hand from our perspective), and also in front of the mercy seat. Leviticus 16. The front being sprinkled is easy enough to understand (we come kneeling before the throne of mercy). The west end // righthand makes sense too (Christ ascended to the right hand of the Father, so He wouldn't need cleansing blood). But the lefthand...
- The ritual also details two goats, one killed and the other left to go free.
- Then we are told in Romans 3:25 that Christ is the mercy seat (some versions say "propitiation"). So the literal fulfillment of the image given to Moses.
- Revelation 3:21 says He that overcomes will be granted by Christ to sit with Him on His throne as He sits on His Father's throne. Together they will rule the nations.
- Hebrews 9:5 says that there's more to delve into with regard to the imagery of the two Cherubs but such wasn't to be discussed at the time.
- Finally, we have imagery during the gospels of Christ and Barabas being presented together for judgment, where the guilty went free while the innocent paid the price. Many older copies of the passage noted that Barabas' full name was "Jesus Barabas".
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Twin Cherub mercy seat...twin goats...two men named "Jesus"...
So it's likely that we weren't meant to attribute all of Psalms 119 to Christ, but neither are we to negate the passage from Him simply because it mentioned sin. Part of it applies to Him and part of it applies to those in Him whom He cleanses...and they are One by Faith. (i.e., a single piece of beaten gold).
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