What do you recommend as a response to invasion of Ukraine

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What happened to "obstruction of justice"? Are all those intelligence chiefs, mainstream media, etc. going to be charged? Not only for obstruction of justice, but for deliberately interfering with the elections?
What do you think? Where we'd go to jail, they get out of jail free, pass Go, and collect millions.
I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem...the low-lifes can have this world!
 

ZNP

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99.9% of Americans support sending Mitt Romney to fight in Ukraine*

U.S.—While Americans remain divided over whether we should expand our involvement in Ukraine to direct military intervention, possibly causing the world to descend into a Fallout-style apocalyptic wasteland, Americans were able to unite over one issue: whether we should send Mitt Romney to the frontlines to fight against Russia.

The poll was taken shortly after Romney strongly advocated for escalating conflict with Russia over the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.

Of those polled, 99.9% agreed with the statement "Mitt Romney should be sent to the battlefront, issued a rifle, and fight in the war he continues to call for." According to the survey results, the remainder of the respondents were Mitt Romney, within a one percent margin of error. One respondent also answered, "Who is Mitt Romney?", and this response was reportedly correlated with strong levels of ignorant bliss.

Pollsters also said that several respondents could not answer the question, as they had an instant reaction to the name "Mitt Romney," immediately vomiting all over the survey.

"Honestly, it's just being kind to him," said one man in Iowa. "He obviously wants this really badly, and we just want to give him a front-row seat to the action. We'd hate for him to start World War 3 and then just sit back at home while others go to fight the war for him. No one likes feeling left out."

Romney was quick to clarify his remarks after the poll came out, saying that his support for going to war with Russia would drop significantly if he had to actually do the fighting himself and not send other people's kids to die. (Babylon Bee)

*Poll was taken of 1,000 Americans and that also included Mitt Romney as we felt he should also be able to weigh in.
 

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What do you think? Where we'd go to jail, they get out of jail free, pass Go, and collect millions.
I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem...the low-lifes can have this world!
I think if Hunter Biden is indicted for tax evasion due to money laundering money from Ukraine, Russia and China that this means all those who denied the authenticity of the laptop will be impacted which is why NY Times published that article last week.

They won't escape because this "impact" will also impact the legitimacy of the Biden administration. Hard to hold power when 80% of Americans are carrying torches and pitchforks.

As long as the US is in peace and Biden is doing a wonderful job with the economy and foreign policy keeping the US out of wars then half the country won't care if the election was stolen. The only things half the country care about is how much their grocery bill is and whether or not we are going to war.
 
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Strap him to a cruise missile. Make sure he has a Go-Pro mounted on his head!
 
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American justice...A-OK, just ask Jussie Smollett!
 
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Perhaps Russia will conquer us...at this point, that might be an improvement!
 
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I never thought I could be so disgusted...as my dad would've said, "You see what thought did!"
Time for another coffee!
 

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They are programming you to believe when they pull the plug on the internet and power plants that it’s Russia doing it. This looks like the next phase of the great reset. They’ve been gaming this for a while.

“It’s Coming” – Joe Biden Casually Says Russia is Planning a Cyberattack Against the United States (VIDEO)

Cyber polygon is similar to Event 21, where they gamed the release of the virus, 3 months before it was actually released.

https://www.brighteon.com/52e7129a-a93c-4c15-aae9-a1b00149e542
 

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They are programming you to believe when they pull the plug on the internet and power plants that it’s Russia doing it. This looks like the next phase of the great reset. They’ve been gaming this for a while.

“It’s Coming” – Joe Biden Casually Says Russia is Planning a Cyberattack Against the United States (VIDEO)

Cyber polygon is similar to Event 21, where they gamed the release of the virus, 3 months before it was actually released.

https://www.brighteon.com/52e7129a-a93c-4c15-aae9-a1b00149e542

not sure if they will go full bore, but some form of this will probably happen.
 

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Brace yourself

9. I keep seeing reports of the atrocities and violence taking place in the Ukraine with hand wringing that we need to do something. Yes, I think we need to see what is happening and be warned, this is coming to a city near you.

10. It is now obvious to anyone paying attention that we will be hit with severe inflation, famine worldwide, attacks on our economy and cyber attacks. You need to brace yourself.

11. Russian leaders have fled to underground bunkers that are secure from nuclear attack. Since no one would attack Russia with nuclear bombs unprovoked we can assume Russia is planning on using nukes. Although we all would like to think these will be small, tactical nukes in Ukraine that would not make military or strategic sense. Russia is anticipating a nuclear attack on its soil from either NATO or the US. Therefore it would make sense for them to strike preemptively.

12. Unless you understand that this war is about "the new world order" and a "one world government" and a "one world financial system" you cannot understand the severity of the war. Russia is fighting for their survival. We are not going to have "one world government" run by Putin so this is his desperate attempt to hold onto power. He has his finger on three critical nerve centers for the world: wheat, oil, and fertilizer. Cut those three off and the world will be in a major crisis. They are working on an agreement with 100 nations to simultaneously dump US dollars and buy oil with a currency on the gold standard. This would cause massive inflation overnight for the US dollar, perhaps a 30% drop in value. Also the US is in a massive drought affecting our winter wheat crop. Cut off fertilizer from Russia and wheat exports from Ukraine and the price of wheat could double. With gas prices and food prices doubling at the same time the dollar loses 50% in value (it has already lost 18% since Biden's inauguration). The US will be consumed with riots and protests at home.

13. Cyber attacks and EMP attacks on our telecommunication and electric grid could send the US back to the horse and buggy days. If you live on a farm, grow your own food and have horses (like the Amish) then you will be fine. But for the millions that live in cities we are talking chaos, mayhem, riots, looting, and violence.

14. This is not some remote border skirmish, this is the start of WWIII. Russia has made a deal with China and is working with 100 countries to dump the dollar. There is already an alliance that will force the US and Europe to go kinetic. The fact is they want one world order and the rest of the world has seen their profligate spending and ways and does not want the US or European elites ruling them.
 

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Brace yourself

9. I keep seeing reports of the atrocities and violence taking place in the Ukraine with hand wringing that we need to do something. Yes, I think we need to see what is happening and be warned, this is coming to a city near you.

10. It is now obvious to anyone paying attention that we will be hit with severe inflation, famine worldwide, attacks on our economy and cyber attacks. You need to brace yourself.

11. Russian leaders have fled to underground bunkers that are secure from nuclear attack. Since no one would attack Russia with nuclear bombs unprovoked we can assume Russia is planning on using nukes. Although we all would like to think these will be small, tactical nukes in Ukraine that would not make military or strategic sense. Russia is anticipating a nuclear attack on its soil from either NATO or the US. Therefore it would make sense for them to strike preemptively.

12. Unless you understand that this war is about "the new world order" and a "one world government" and a "one world financial system" you cannot understand the severity of the war. Russia is fighting for their survival. We are not going to have "one world government" run by Putin so this is his desperate attempt to hold onto power. He has his finger on three critical nerve centers for the world: wheat, oil, and fertilizer. Cut those three off and the world will be in a major crisis. They are working on an agreement with 100 nations to simultaneously dump US dollars and buy oil with a currency on the gold standard. This would cause massive inflation overnight for the US dollar, perhaps a 30% drop in value. Also the US is in a massive drought affecting our winter wheat crop. Cut off fertilizer from Russia and wheat exports from Ukraine and the price of wheat could double. With gas prices and food prices doubling at the same time the dollar loses 50% in value (it has already lost 18% since Biden's inauguration). The US will be consumed with riots and protests at home.

13. Cyber attacks and EMP attacks on our telecommunication and electric grid could send the US back to the horse and buggy days. If you live on a farm, grow your own food and have horses (like the Amish) then you will be fine. But for the millions that live in cities we are talking chaos, mayhem, riots, looting, and violence.

14. This is not some remote border skirmish, this is the start of WWIII. Russia has made a deal with China and is working with 100 countries to dump the dollar. There is already an alliance that will force the US and Europe to go kinetic. The fact is they want one world order and the rest of the world has seen their profligate spending and ways and does not want the US or European elites ruling them.
Where’s one through eight?
 

ZNP

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Thank you for that reminder.

My reading today is from Isaiah 30:
10-11 They tell my prophets, “Shut up—we don’t want any more of your reports!” Or they say, “Don’t tell us the truth; tell us nice things; tell us lies. Forget all this gloom; we’ve heard more than enough about your ‘Holy One of Israel’ and all he says.”

12 This is the reply of the Holy One of Israel:

Because you despise what I tell you and trust instead in frauds and lies and won’t repent, 13 therefore calamity will come upon you suddenly, as upon a bulging wall that bursts and falls; in one moment it comes crashing down.
 

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Well I already suggested this but if every other country just cut them off, no trade, no business, little hard to find a war with no money. They would have to capitulate eventually
 
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Tell us now what we should do before Russia invades Poland and Romania and then Israel.
I think those billions sent to Ukraine should have been provided to the emotional social and physical care of the homeless.
 

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We are currently at war with Russia.
This is not only a tragedy but also a scam. The Western taxpayers are being scammed by Zelensky and his thugs with the help of corrupt Western politicians. This war is ENTIRELY UNNCESSARY but the West now has an excuse to destroy itself by throwing billions at Ukraine (most of which will never benefit ordinary Ukrainians) and destroying its own military capability.

Ukraine is not even a Western country and it has a huge number of Russian residents. So what should have happened back in November 2021? One of the Eastern bloc countries (e.g. Poland) should have invited Putin and Zelensky to a neutral location outside Europe and the West. The goal would have been a negotiated settlement, where Ukraine lost some of its territory and Russia pledged to stop all aggression against Ukraine. Any further aggression would result in direct attacks on Russia.

But there should have been no Western sanctions against Russia since the war originated with the scheming of Western politicians. And Zelensky would have been required to establish a genuine democracy instead of his dictatorship, along with full accountability for all the money that went to Ukraine (and then went down the drain).
 

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This is not only a tragedy but also a scam. The Western taxpayers are being scammed by Zelensky and his thugs with the help of corrupt Western politicians. This war is ENTIRELY UNNCESSARY but the West now has an excuse to destroy itself by throwing billions at Ukraine (most of which will never benefit ordinary Ukrainians) and destroying its own military capability.

Ukraine is not even a Western country and it has a huge number of Russian residents. So what should have happened back in November 2021? One of the Eastern bloc countries (e.g. Poland) should have invited Putin and Zelensky to a neutral location outside Europe and the West. The goal would have been a negotiated settlement, where Ukraine lost some of its territory and Russia pledged to stop all aggression against Ukraine. Any further aggression would result in direct attacks on Russia.

But there should have been no Western sanctions against Russia since the war originated with the scheming of Western politicians. And Zelensky would have been required to establish a genuine democracy instead of his dictatorship, along with full accountability for all the money that went to Ukraine (and then went down the drain).
Everything is being done because the Lord has allowed it. Yes, they are corrupt, but everyone can see it. These people have been corrupt for 2,000 years but that doesn't mean people could see it.

The Lord gave a very big prophecy,

Luke 12:2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. 3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.

The Lord does not exaggerate, this word will be fulfilled in this age of grace, and that is what we are seeing. What you are seeing today is what the Lord could see 2,000 years ago. You think it is outrageous that we have gone for two years with this in front of our face, Jesus has gone for 2,000 years with this in front of His face.

Case in point:

 

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The news is filled with idiotic suggestions -- people calling for the assassination of Putin (war crime), others calling for a no fly zone -- in other words lets start WWIII with Russia, and on and on.

So I would like to go on the record now with what I think is the proper response to this.

1. Right now we see that we shouldn't have stopped providing weapons to Ukraine, Biden put a stop to this a year ago. Based on that I would say we need to fully arm Poland and Romania so they are able to defend their borders. NATO needs to fully ramp up their defense spending. Step 1 -- we contain this thing.

2. We take refugees from this war. We have had 2 million come across our southern border this year, we can certainly take some genuine refugees. Let's send ships and planes. Do our part in the humanitarian crisis.

3. Every dollar we spend to defend the Ukrainian border and to beef up security in Poland and Romania needs to be matched with money to finish our Southern wall. It is absurd to tell us that the Ukrainian border is sacred to America but our own border is not.

4. We are currently at war with Russia. We launched an economic warfare that has been devastating to 140 million Russians. So then Biden needs to have a frank and open discussion explaining why he did that, what vital national interest this is protecting. If Russia retaliates we need to know why we are being attacked because at this point Russia would appear justified in retaliating.

5. What is going on with these bioweapons labs? The US state department just confirmed at least half of Russia's story, China has also confirmed it. We need to know why we would put research facilities in the Ukraine? This isn't MIT, or Cambridge, or even a major German facility. What was the reason US military would put bioweapons research facilities in Ukraine instead of a NATO country or the US?

6. This war is showing to me that the links between Biden, Hunter and Ukraine are really significant and need to be investigated. I expect Senate hearings on this to get to the bottom of it.

7. Pfizer releasing 50,000 pages of data and the disappearance of Fauci is undermining the American trust in the US government. We need hearings on this, was this pandemic an act of war? This is now a critical question that must be answered immediately.
It's yet another proxy war. Using Ukraine the US, with Ukraine's consent, wars against Russia.

The US politicians and shadow government members don't care about other nations politics unless or until there is something we can exploit for our benefit.

The only thing that concerns me are the number of Ukrainian ''refugees'' they'll fly to America now.

When international law in that area doesn't actually allow for that any more than the huge numbers of ''refugees'' that enter America from south and central America.
 

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It's yet another proxy war. Using Ukraine the US, with Ukraine's consent, wars against Russia.

The US politicians and shadow government members don't care about other nations politics unless or until there is something we can exploit for our benefit.

The only thing that concerns me are the number of Ukrainian ''refugees'' they'll fly to America now.

When international law in that area doesn't actually allow for that any more than the huge numbers of ''refugees'' that enter America from south and central America.
Not in the shadows anymore. Also highly doubt untrained Ukrainians will be able to use Abrams tanks or F16s, so not a proxy war for long, Germany even said it.
 

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Not in the shadows anymore. Also highly doubt untrained Ukrainians will be able to use Abrams tanks or F16s, so not a proxy war for long, Germany even said it.
Proxy war includes training the allies how to use the military equipment we send to the effort.

Remember when we helped Afghanis fight Russia? How'd that turn out?