Does the Bible prophesy a cashless society?

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Mem

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Mem said:
Actually I believe the mark (signature) of the beast is misogyny (and there are just as many female misogynists), and I haven't noticed that on you... yet, that is :cautious:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman...
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... the word I was reaching for escaped me until after my time to edit ran out... it starts with a "t".... uhhhm... oh yeah!

but, more tangibly, I think it is a crescent and a star that is the quintessential representation of the perfected execution of the misogynist society after ages and ages of such the endeavor (but, under the guise of 'honoring' them, of course.)

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Lol...well now I at least know how to spell misogyny and isn't the you referred to there Satan?
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yes, exactly!
 
Cameron143

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Mem said:
... the word I was reaching for escaped me until after my time to edit ran out... it starts with a "t".... uhhhm... oh yeah!

but, more tangibly, I think it is a crescent and a star that is the quintessential representation of the perfected execution of the misogynist society after ages and ages of such the endeavor.



yes, exactly!
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I see what you are saying now. I disagree but I understand your viewpoint.
 
Mem

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Mem said:
... the word I was reaching for escaped me until after my time to edit ran out... it starts with a "t".... uhhhm... oh yeah!

but, more tangibly, I think it is a crescent and a star that is the quintessential representation of the perfected execution of the misogynist society after ages and ages of such the endeavor (but, under the guise of 'honoring' them, of course.)



yes, exactly!
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*that combination of symbols^ goes all the way back to Caanan and Moab and was also utilized in Roman business
 
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Lucy-Pevensie said:
Rev 1 ~
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.

Rev 22~
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
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I mean. It's kinda right there in black and white, right? :oops:
 
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Cameron143 said:
Are you saying this is past and was 1st century?
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I clearly wrote: I mean. It's kinda right there in black and white, right? The Revelation of Jesus Christ is necessarily written for the church, who are His Body.

Perhaps you have me confused with another member.
 
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Aaron56 said:
I clearly wrote: I mean. It's kinda right there in black and white, right? The Revelation of Jesus Christ is necessarily written for the church, who are His Body.

Perhaps you have me confused with another member.
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I did miss the intention of your post as I didn't pay attention initially to the bold type.
But since your quotation of Revelation 1:1 does state that the things shown were things that would soon take place I would enjoy hearing your understanding of that phrase if you are so inclined.
 
Aaron56

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Cameron143 said:
I did miss the intention of your post as I didn't pay attention initially to the bold type.
But since your quotation of Revelation 1:1 does state that the things shown were things that would soon take place I would enjoy hearing your understanding of that phrase if you are so inclined.
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Sure. There are things that soon took place. Namely, the dealings with the churches. But then...

“Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this."

So, John saw a terrestrial vision; one of things that were to happen in the earth to the 7 churches. But then it is written...

"After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”

John's view from the perspective of heaven was outside of time. Also, what he saw in heaven was the most complete view of things when compared to the appearing of those things in the earth. And, at the end of the age of the earth, the things John saw in heaven will come to the earth in their most complete forms.

In other words: While it is possible to find antecedents of the events John witnesses in Revelation throughout the scriptures, they come upon the earth in their complete forms at the end of the age.
 
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Aaron56 said:
Sure. There are things that soon took place. Namely, the dealings with the churches. But then...

“Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this."

So, John saw a terrestrial vision; one of things that were to happen in the earth to the 7 churches. But then it is written...

"After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, “Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.”

John's view from the perspective of heaven was outside of time. Also, what he saw in heaven was the most complete view of things when compared to the appearing of those things in the earth. And, at the end of the age of the earth, the things John saw in heaven will come to the earth in their most complete forms.

In other words: While it is possible to find antecedents of the events John witnesses in Revelation throughout the scriptures, they come upon the earth in their complete forms at the end of the age.
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Thanks for sharing. The end of what age? I'm sincerely asking and would appreciate verses as you did earlier.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Thanks for sharing. The end of what age? I'm sincerely asking and would appreciate verses as you did earlier.
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This age ends when the Day of the Lord begins.

"..but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching."
 
Cameron143

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Aaron56 said:
This age ends when the Day of the Lord begins.

"..but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching."
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Which begins with Pentecost, the destruction of Jerusalem, or at a future return or the end of time as we presently know it?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Which begins with Pentecost, the destruction of Jerusalem, or at a future return or the end of time as we presently know it?
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This exhorting one another is set against this certain Day... with an exhortation to receive one another in the Lord and assemble accordingly (not about "going the church"). This is the Lord building the House.

When perfected, through much suffering, the Bride, who is comprised of the saints, will agree with the Holy Spirit and ask the Lord to come back. This will be at the end of the tribulation when the Lord appears in the clouds. The saints will likewise appear with Him to display to the world that we are of Him. This is the final witness of the His righteousness at the end of the age.

In this display, we are both the sons of God and the Bride of the son, much like Eve was the son of God and the son of Adam, because she derived her flesh from Adam but her spirit from God. When the saints meet Christ in the air, this is the fulfillment of the Son being of image and likeness to God the Father. The first covenant (God with God) being complete.
 
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Aaron56 said:
This exhorting one another is set against this certain Day... with an exhortation to receive one another in the Lord and assemble accordingly (not about "going the church"). This is the Lord building the House.

When perfected, through much suffering, the Bride, who is comprised of the saints, will agree with the Holy Spirit and ask the Lord to come back. This will be at the end of the tribulation when the Lord appears in the clouds. The saints will likewise appear with Him to display to the world that we are of Him. This is the final witness of the His righteousness at the end of the age.

In this display, we are both the sons of God and the Bride of the son, much like Eve was the son of God and the son of Adam, because she derived her flesh from Adam but her spirit from God. When the saints meet Christ in the air, this is the fulfillment of the Son being of image and likeness to God the Father. The first covenant (God with God) being complete.
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Thanks for your patience and taking the time to respond to my questions.
 
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It could mean a social credit that allows the person to be in a public market. Something like a passport.
 
Moses_Young

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ThereRoseaLamb said:
I don't think believers will be here during that period.
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If it's once saved always saved, I likewise don't believe Christians will be here. Otherwise, we could somehow lose the free gift of salvation by accepting the mark of the beast.
 
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Mem said:
Actually I believe the mark (signature) of the beast is misogyny (and there are just as many female misogynists), and I haven't noticed that on you... yet, that is :cautious:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman...
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Why would the mark of the beast be misogyny? The devil loves women. Look at how he used Eve. Surely the mark of the beast would more likely be misandry or feminism, if the mark of the beast was somehow going to be some sort of social cult? I mean, men are the ones who usually know the devil's schemes.
 
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TheNarrowPath said:
If it does, is this something Christians should be concerned about and how will you survive this period where you cannot buy or sell unless you have the mark?
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I would suggest you take a little better look at the very Scripture your asking about because it actually says way more than just a mark. It says unless you have the mark,,,, "OR" the name "OR" the number of the beast...

So...
Mark
Name
Number

One of those three things https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-17.htm
 
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