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He states that we did not (nor could not) quite understand who Jesus really was (God in human flesh) until human councils were convened and decisions made. And some of these were nail-biters.
Well, somebody tell these debaters that I am far more interested in what Jesus Himself said about Himself and what his closest companions and eyewitnesses said about Jesus. And what Jesus did, that should be of paramount importance.
And since the manuscripts are known to be exceedingly consistent and accurate as far back as we can reach, and our Bibles today are consequently trustworthy, each man can make his own decision about the deity of Jesus. Which is exactly what Jesus says anyways.
Which makes Ehrman's position/employment redundant now doesn't it?
Well, somebody tell these debaters that I am far more interested in what Jesus Himself said about Himself and what his closest companions and eyewitnesses said about Jesus. And what Jesus did, that should be of paramount importance.
And since the manuscripts are known to be exceedingly consistent and accurate as far back as we can reach, and our Bibles today are consequently trustworthy, each man can make his own decision about the deity of Jesus. Which is exactly what Jesus says anyways.
Which makes Ehrman's position/employment redundant now doesn't it?
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Lee Storbels life story is far more interesting that this guy. His wife becomes saved, he want to debunk her belief. In trying he himself becomes a born again believer. Eventually a pastor of a church. So this guy seems to think he's intelligent, but this was the very aspect of the Gospel that made Lee a believer.
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1.) Ehrman is very clear he is not a Christian, and he does NOT believe Jesus was divine, and he does NOT believe Jesus resurrected.
2.) Those are his beliefs.
3.) His beliefs are the opposite of the gospel message.
4.) I can't imagine how that would inspire a Christian.
I'm not trying to be unkind... I am just very confused by your view.
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2.) Those are his beliefs.
3.) His beliefs are the opposite of the gospel message.
4.) I can't imagine how that would inspire a Christian.
I'm not trying to be unkind... I am just very confused by your view.
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I take it you mean the "man" in the video that *I* posted?
No, I'm not (I don't really even know who he is...)
As I said in an earlier post, I own a hard copy of the material this man was covering, so rather than posting that (which I eventually supplied the link to that Appendix that's FREE online, since cv5 was mentioning "buying" one), I figured many ppl might rather view a 10-min video (which video I had posted a number of years back on a different forum, which forum no longer exists--I was remembering it from back then)...
...and because I think this man does a fairly good job of presenting the material from [said] Bullinger's Appendix #164 (which Subject was one covered in the OP video [B.E.'s saying there are too many inconsistencies and contradictions, this supposedly being ONE of them. I think not. lol])
BTW, NOR am I connected with the person being spoken of in Post #84. (whoever that is... I do not know him.)
No, I'm not (I don't really even know who he is...)
As I said in an earlier post, I own a hard copy of the material this man was covering, so rather than posting that (which I eventually supplied the link to that Appendix that's FREE online, since cv5 was mentioning "buying" one), I figured many ppl might rather view a 10-min video (which video I had posted a number of years back on a different forum, which forum no longer exists--I was remembering it from back then)...
...and because I think this man does a fairly good job of presenting the material from [said] Bullinger's Appendix #164 (which Subject was one covered in the OP video [B.E.'s saying there are too many inconsistencies and contradictions, this supposedly being ONE of them. I think not. lol])
BTW, NOR am I connected with the person being spoken of in Post #84. (whoever that is... I do not know him.)
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The fact that there are differences is evidence of their authenticity.
In real life, eyewitnesses don't recount their experiences exactly the same way.
If the gospel accounts were works of fiction they would more likely have been recorded as exact replicas of each other.
Beside that, some of the reported events and conversations were not witnessed by all the gospel writers.
They had different backgrounds, styles of writing and emphasis. We would expect differences in authentic historical
documents. Not from forgers trying to 'get thier story straight' hundreds of years after the fact.
In real life, eyewitnesses don't recount their experiences exactly the same way.
If the gospel accounts were works of fiction they would more likely have been recorded as exact replicas of each other.
Beside that, some of the reported events and conversations were not witnessed by all the gospel writers.
They had different backgrounds, styles of writing and emphasis. We would expect differences in authentic historical
documents. Not from forgers trying to 'get thier story straight' hundreds of years after the fact.
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Now remember saints luke was not a apostle. He was sent to see if the stories of JESUS were true some years later.
He befriended paul and helped in the ministry. Obviously he was born again.
His gospel is written as he interviewed the eyewitnesses. Then its believed he wrote what is called the book of acts.
He befriended paul and helped in the ministry. Obviously he was born again.
His gospel is written as he interviewed the eyewitnesses. Then its believed he wrote what is called the book of acts.
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I can't imagine how Ehrman obtained tenure.....
Loudest guy in the room?
Loudest guy in the room?
Believing the Bible, or even believing in God, is not a consideration when they hire someone to teach on Biblical subjects.
It doesn't matter how crazy that seems to us... that is just how the world works.
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Here is a perspective of the Bible from the engineering/information sciences POV.
Monuments from Prehistory [1990s] (Chuck Missler) | Blue Letter Bible Audio
Monuments from Prehistory [1990s] (Chuck Missler) | Blue Letter Bible Audio