Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[lonelysummer]

I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life...

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

In saying this, it is not my intent to insult anyone; rather, it is my hope that I might encourage some to search until they find and take whatever path is necessary to help them wake up from the 'coma' they are in --- anyone who actually falls for that "pile of deception" ( ) needs to understand just how gullible they really are...

It's SAD - it really is.

Okay, I'll bite: what is wrong with that video?

 

[kinda]

There you go folks. Not much left to argue....yes?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1611024931348959232

It proves that after 50 years, they still can't goto the moon?!?!

There is a very small chance, I missed your point, but I need clarification.

What does the video prove? Rockets are real? Please explain.

 

[cv5]

I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life...

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

In saying this, it is not my intent to insult anyone; rather, it is my hope that I might encourage some to search until they find and take whatever path is necessary to help them wake up from the 'coma' they are in --- anyone who actually falls for that "pile of deception" ( ) needs to understand just how gullible they really are...

It's SAD - it really is.

I would be interested in your astute analysis. Please regale us will you?

Make it as complex as you wish. I am emotionally and intellectually prepared

 

[GaryA]

Okay, I'll bite: what is wrong with that video?

It proves that after 50 years, they still can't goto the moon?!?!

There is a very small chance, I missed your point, but I need clarification.

What does the video prove? Rockets are real? Please explain.

I would be interested in your astute analysis. Please regale us will you?

Make it as complex as you wish. I am emotionally and intellectually prepared

Quite frankly, I am more interested in the "answer" to kinda's post...

 

[kinda]

Quite frankly, I am more interested in the "answer" to kinda's post...

Gary is a straight up Ninja in deflection, but he does have a point.

Why is kinda being ignored? lol

It's o.k., this whole topic is getting pretty dull. I think it's pretty safe at this point, that many questions cannot be answered with 100% accuracy. We are very limited in our abilities to know how Heaven operates. God's ways are above our ways.

If it was possible that all humans could just fly from planet to planet, dance on the moon, star hop, and get a sun tan, while lounging on the sun, than we could see for our very own eyes, how things work. As it is now, it's basically detective work, guess work, a little bit of science, some technical abilities, Bible thumping, science jumping, and opinions.

I have watched videos of university professors talk about stars and wonder how they formulate their opinions, because there is no way of coming to some of their conclusions, by looking at the images they are presenting. It's a lot of guess work and holding the company line in my opinion.

I really wish NASA and the official science community could just be honest and say, we think it's this, but we don't know for sure. Also, presenting the other realms of possibility would give them more credit, but they ignore, or slander other view points, without acknowledging, they could be wrong themselves.

I remember Pluto was a planet growing up, now their is questions, if Pluto is a planet. The official science community have changed their minds over time, but they still state their opinions are the intelligent ones. I tend to disagree sometimes.

Despite how i feel about the Flat Earth movement, the ability to question the popular opinion, should be allowed, but that doesn't necessarily mean the unpopular opinion is right, but to decide for one self is paramount, or most important.

Jesus didn't force his views on people, but let people decide over their life time, what was true. God has given us so much grace to walk in sin, and the LORD is patient waiting for mankind to repent, and believe in the one true God. We are very blessed to live in faith and awarded the time to come to Jesus.

 

[GaryA]

Gary is a straight up Ninja in deflection, but he does have a point.

Now that is funny!

Quite frankly, I am more interested in the "answer" to kinda's post...

What I meant by this was that I am more interested in an explanation of the implied suggestion that that video was somehow supposed to end the "argument" (post #3059) which is the thread title question. After all, was it not indicated [to be] an original "claim" of sorts...?

Since there are some on here who are always touting that the "original claim" has the highest obligation to give an explanation - I will wait my turn.

Let there be a sufficient ('detailed') explanation for the original claim first - then, we can move on to alternative views - perhaps even by picking apart the original 'detailed' explanation...

 

[UnoiAmarah]

I really wish NASA and the official science community could just be honest and say, we think it's this, but we don't know for sure.

Couldn't the Jews and Muslims ask the the same question of the Church and Christians to just be honest and say that they think Jesus rose from the dead, but that they don't know for sure?

I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life...

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

Since you have been asked to identifying what is wrong with the video, it is understood the reason you don't ...

There is a very small chance, I missed your point, but I need clarification.
What does the video prove? Rockets are real? Please explain.

It proves Eccl 10:11, or didn't you the see the strike against the the truth without reason?

 

[GaryA]

Couldn't the Jews and Muslims ask the the same question of the Church and Christians to just be honest and say that they think Jesus rose from the dead, but that they don't know for sure?

Couldn't Christians ask Jews and Muslims to be honest and say that they don't know for sure that Jesus did not rise from the dead?

Simply put - we believe by faith.

It is a different context and form of reasoning than what the NASA statement you quoted entails.

Since you have been asked to identifying what is wrong with the video, it is understood the reason you don't ...

don't what?

I am [simply] tired of seeing this same scenario repeat over-and-over:

1. Ball Earth person makes claim/statement that they think supports the Ball Earth model.
2. Flat Earth person makes comment/remark with regard to Ball Earth person's claim/statement.
3. Ball Earth people come-out-of-the-woodwork and demand that the Flat Earth person should defend/explain their comment/remark - when, the Ball Earth person who make the initial claim/statement has not made any explanation for it whatsoever.

Well - "I don't think so." - let the Ball Earth person who made the initial claim/statement do some defending/explaining!

It proves Eccl 10:11, or didn't you the see the strike against the the truth without reason?

What is 'It'? The video? The statements you quoted?

Please explain further your intent for this question.

 

[GaryA]

It is really sad that the combination of human pride and cognitive dissonance has produced in people such an intense jacked-up pride-filled self-assured sense of absolute-certainty that:

~ Everything they have ever been taught by the 'establishment' is true - whether actually proven to be true or not.

~ It is not possible that they could ever be deceived on such a grand scale so as to be 'world-wide'.

~ Nothing like that could possibly ever actually happen; conspiracies do not exist.

~ Satan is pure evil - however, he cannot possibly be as evil as that.

~ Anyone who says anything contrary is a 'nut-job'.

Has the whole C-19 episode not shown you that all of these ideas are false?

Well - that is not the only wool that has been pulled over your eyes...

 

[GaryA]

Studying the Greek and Hebrew is not necessary to obtain the true meaning in the absolute majority of cases; albeit, it helps one to better understand the "fine details" of some things...

For example, while it is not actually "stated" in the Bible anywhere - it is 'presented' in the 'grammar of the language' that - pharmaceutical drugs are the 'sorcery' by which Satan deceives the [whole] world.

This conclusion may be derived from a study of certain words from the Greek and Hebrew in their usage in the context of certain verses/passages.

Has the whole C-19 episode not shown you that all of these ideas are false?

Some of us knew from the beginning what it was all about.

When we tried to tell you, you would not believe us.

Well - that is not the only wool that has been pulled over your eyes...

And, we know a few other things, too.





Wake up, sleeping Christians!

 

[kinda]

Now that is funny!


What I meant by this was that I am more interested in an explanation of the implied suggestion that that video was somehow supposed to end the "argument" (post #3059) which is the thread title question. After all, was it not indicated [to be] an original "claim" of sorts...?

Since there are some on here who are always touting that the "original claim" has the highest obligation to give an explanation - I will wait my turn.

Let there be a sufficient ('detailed') explanation for the original claim first - then, we can move on to alternative views - perhaps even by picking apart the original 'detailed' explanation...

The three argument of the shape of the earth.....


Gary, if you don't have mind reading skills, or e.s.p., than you can't really have a discussion with the globalist. If you even question the sun centered universe, your viewed as some illiterate, that came from many generations of inbreeding.

On the other hand, there is no real discussion with flat earthers, it's basically, believe Eric Dubay, or else they will bombard you with endless trivial points, that are not open for questioning.

Concave Hollow Earthers are invisible and can't be tract by even the latest satellite technology, we do hope that one day technology will be able to locate us, then will be able to communicate with the rest of the world. lol

 

[kinda]

Couldn't the Jews and Muslims ask the the same question of the Church and Christians to just be honest and say that they think Jesus rose from the dead, but that they don't know for sure?

What do you think?

Since you have been asked to identifying what is wrong with the video, it is understood the reason you don't ...

Where was I asked, to identify what is wrong with the video? Someone posted a video and proclaimed the argument was over, without stating what the point of the video was, or how it proved the point.

It would be like me posting this picture......



And saying.....Alright macro evolution has just been debunked.

A natural response would be, how has macro evolution been debunked?

Than the creationist would say, well since you asked, we know you are dumb.

The above was a way of me expressing how your argument appears to me.

I believe in creation, but some of the arguments, that are put out in this thread, is hilarious in my opinion.

It proves Eccl 10:11, or didn't you the see the strike against the the truth without reason?

Can you explain this last bit of your post?

I think sometimes people fail to express themselves, in a way that the other person can understand. I just want to inform you, I don't have mind reading skills, so you have to let me know what your thinking, and why your thinking it, so I can respond.

My e.s.p. skills are getting better, but still need a little bit of help. lol

If people believe their view points are above question, than it's pretty difficult to have a conversation. I hope this makes sense..

 

[kinda]

Couldn't Christians ask Jews and Muslims to be honest and say that they don't know for sure that Jesus did not rise from the dead?

Simply put - we believe by faith.

It is a different context and form of reasoning than what the NASA statement you quoted entails.


don't what?

I am [simply] tired of seeing this same scenario repeat over-and-over:

1. Ball Earth person makes claim/statement that they think supports the Ball Earth model.
2. Flat Earth person makes comment/remark with regard to Ball Earth person's claim/statement.
3. Ball Earth people come-out-of-the-woodwork and demand that the Flat Earth person should defend/explain their comment/remark - when, the Ball Earth person who make the initial claim/statement has not made any explanation for it whatsoever.

Well - "I don't think so." - let the Ball Earth person who made the initial claim/statement do some defending/explaining!


What is 'It'? The video? The statements you quoted?

Please explain further your intent for this question.

Yeah, this is an international site, so there could be a language barrier, or other barriers for a good, back and forth conversation.

Alright Gary, I know how to debunk flat earth once in for all. lol

There are no straight lines in nature, and flat is considered straight. Game Over! Please put in another quarter!





Flat Earth is dead. There is a no resuscitation clause, I'm afraid it's over for Flat Earth. lol

Rest in Peace Flat Earth, many will miss your memories, but most will never believe you existed.

 

[UnoiAmarah]

Where was I asked, to identify what is wrong with the video?

If you look at my post you will see that the question was directed toward by GaryA and not you.

Can you explain this last bit of your post?

When a person makes a claim that something is true yet cannot give a reason in support of the thing they claim is true is basically a babbler, which is no better that a person that claims something is false and cannot give a reason in support of their claim.

Surely the serpent will bite without enchantment; and a babbler is no better. Eccl 10:11

If people believe their view points are above question, than it's pretty difficult to have a conversation.

It is error only not truth that shrinks at inquiry.

 

[UnoiAmarah]

If you even question the sun centered universe, your viewed as some illiterate, that came from many generations of inbreeding.

Really?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Really?

You should vote In the poll👆at the very top of this page.

 

[GaryA]

Gary, if you don't have mind reading skills, ...

Of course, I have mind reading skills! I can read my mind at least most of the time...

(It is a little more difficult when I am asleep. )

 

[kinda]

Really?

My comment was directed towards Gary, because Gary has taken quite a beating for questioning the Heliocentric model. Also, being a flat earther sort brings that mentality to his way, but maybe you missed it. I don't believe in the flat earth, but Gary, as misguided as he is about the earth, is remarkably forgiving, considering some of the comments that were directed towards him.

So, which is it NASA? Is the sun the center of the universe, nothing is the center of the universe, or you don't know, so you keep guessing?!?! lol

I think Neil deGrasse is wrong in this point. God is in the center of the universe, but you can believe Neil deGrasse, if you want.

It will be impossible to prove Neil or kinda wrong, but when God returns, there will be no question who is the center of the universe. Well, at least that's what I believe.

 

[GaryA]

Alright Gary, I know how to debunk flat earth once in for all. lol

There are no straight lines in nature, and flat is considered straight. Game Over! Please put in another quarter!

Aren't quarters considered to be flat...?

 

[kinda]

Aren't quarters considered to be flat...?

The sides are round Gary. Hello!