Do you observe the Sabbath?

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Magenta

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That’s what people keep saying. I’ll accept it when I see a verse proving it.

And if I may, since Jesus is your Sabbath rest, what did you do to make every effort to enter into that rest in order to not perish due to disobedience?

Matthew 11:28-30
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You accept a number of things there is no verse for articulating them as proof.
None that I’m aware of. I would change it quickly if I were to discover any such thing. In fact, I only recently became a Sabbath observer within the past week. Of course, that’s for God’s glory not mine.

I am sold on literal Sabbath keeping because the 10 commandments are required.
 

Magenta

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If you had taken Jesus’ yoke upon you and learned from him then you would be keeping the Sabbath rest like he did.
Jesus worked on the Sabbath and said His Father continued to do so too.

2K years ago you would have probably wanted to stone Christ along with the others who sought to kill Him.
 

Magenta

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None that I’m aware of. I would change it quickly if I were to discover any such thing. In fact, I only recently became a Sabbath observer within the past week. Of course, that’s for God’s glory not mine.

I am sold on literal Sabbath keeping because the 10 commandments are required.
You believe Judas was saved. There is no verse saying that. You claimed Jesus said baptism was righteousness. There is no verse that says that. You believe an unbaptized person's body does not resurrect. There is no verse making that assertion. There are more. Your lack of awareness of how your beliefs diverge from what the Bible actually says should not surprise me after all this time and all your false claims.
 
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Jesus worked on the Sabbath and said His Father continued to do so too.

2K years ago you would have probably wanted to stone Christ along with the others who sought to kill Him.
Actually, sometimes I pray and tell God I wish I could have been there. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, not me, so I would have supported him of course. The kind of work he did was seeking God’s glory. Do you know what the point of the Sabbath is?
 

TMS

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Scripture is very clear that with the coming of the New Covenant, the Old Covenant passes away... all of it, Commandments especially.
For example:
Eph. 2:14-16 (ESV) 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16 and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.
Abolished the law of commandments expressed in ordinances..
This is not the weekly sabbath.
Jesus said to keep the commandments, and it is important to get it right. We have an avocate with the Father and you are right "we can't keep the law perfectly, we need the help of Jesus."

If the law is written on your heart does that include the sabbath commandment?

Jesus gives us His righteousness which is perfect. We can be justified before God as if we never sinned. But Jesus wants to write the commandments on our heart too. We can be sanctified through Jesus.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Rom 8:3-4
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

It is possible for the righteousness of the law to be fulfilled in us. By faith in Jesus
 
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You believe Judas was saved. There is no verse saying that. You claimed Jesus said baptism was righteousness. There is no verse that says that. You believe an unbaptized person's body does not resurrect. There is no verse making that assertion. There are more. Your lack of awareness of how your beliefs diverge from what the Bible actually says should not surprise me after all this time and all your false claims.
I can provide a passage that plainly says each of those points.
 

TMS

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You know that Sabbath-rest is Jesus, right?
JESUS is everything good.
He is my peace, rest, and life. He is bread, and water, He is the lamb without fault and our brother. Because we find REST in Jesus that does not mean the sabbath rest is gone.

The sabbath was made before sin.

We talked about Col 2 and the shadow ordinances, which do not include the 10 commandments.
Where are we told to replace the weekly sabbath with Jesus?
 

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JESUS is everything good.
He is my peace, rest, and life. He is bread, and water, He is the lamb without fault and our brother. Because we find REST in Jesus that does not mean the sabbath rest is gone.

The sabbath was made before sin.

We talked about Col 2 and the shadow ordinances, which do not include the 10 commandments.
Where are we told to replace the weekly sabbath with Jesus?
Say whatever you want, Sabbath keeping in the New Testament is optional. Sorry to disappoint you but that's just the way it is. Keep the Sabbath, don't keep it, I really don't care; but seems to me all you ever do on here is Judaize and preach propaganda.
 
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2K years ago you would have probably wanted to stone Christ along with the others who sought to kill Him.
I keep thinking of this. It’s got to be one of the most vile things anyone has said about me in recent memory.
 

Blade

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I'll make this short. This is not something I care about in regards to you keep it or you don't. We talk about the law and this and that but when God rested the fall had not happen. Up to Christ we hear Sabbath was made for man not man for the Sabbath. Then picking one Heb he talks about entering and rest. Is the was the Sabbath just about physical rest? Again God "rested" on the 7th day. No fall of man.... there was no man.

Theres so much here then just some day you better remember or else! Lol. You can see Gods head slowly go down and His hand goes up hits His forehead. Allot of stumbling blocks for sure
 

Magenta

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God "rested" on the 7th day. No fall of man.... there was no man.
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea
and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that
crawls upon it.” So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male
and female He created them. Genesis 1:26-27 And God looked upon all that He had made, and
indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day. Genesis 1:30
 

TMS

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All good comes from God.
All glory goes to God, wheather the person knows it or not.

The closer we come to Jesus the more sinful we appear. Standing in His righteousness we are poor, blind and naked. So the word and a knowledge of Jesus helps us to understand sin.
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

We are free when His righteousness covers us, and when it transforms us.

By the Spirit we can have all sins revealed and removed.

It is called sanctification.

2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Perfecting holiness = because of Jesus and through Jesus we can be cleansed.
 

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It is possible for the righteousness of the law to be fulfilled in us. By faith in Jesus
Then isn't the righteousness of the weekly ceremonial cessation of certain activities is fulfilled in me by faith?
 
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What verse says this?
1. You shall have no other gods before Me. - Acts 14:15
2. You shall make no idols. - 1 John 5:21
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. - James 5:12
4. Keep the Sabbath day. - Hebrews 4:9-11
5. Honor your father and your mother. - Ephesians 6:1-2
6. You shall not murder. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 John 3:15
7. You shall not commit adultery. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
8. You shall not steal. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 4:28
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. - Romans 13:9-10; Colossians 3:9-10
10. You shall not covet. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 5:3