Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Show them their transgression

Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

I think this chapter is easier for me to understand if we go in reverse order. Let's look at the goal first, then we can understand what the sin is.

The Goal

8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy reward.

There will be a reward, the glory of the Lord will shine through you. This chapter exposes the transgression that we are making if the glory of the Lord is not shining through us and how to remedy that.

9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am.

God will hear your prayer and answer your prayer. This is the goal of the book of James when he talks about Elijah.

If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

"putting forth the finger" is what we call pointing your finger at someone else. This is when we blame others for failure rather than take responsibility for our own failures. Speaking vanity here is a word that can mean wickedness, evil, mischief, etc. This could be an off color joke, it could be gossip, it could be self justification or condemnation of others. This word yoke refers to bands of oppression, making people slaves, beasts of burden, etc.

10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:

There is a need around you, if you take up that burden to meet that need then the light will shine.

11 And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

As you have done it will be done to you. If you are feeding, watering and caring for others then you will be fed, watered and cared for yourself.

12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

This is the goal, you will be called the "repairer of the breach" or the "restorer of paths". This chapter talks about fasting but it is important to understand the goal. Maybe there is a hole in the wall, we are fasting that it would be repaired, not to complain about the government, but to be the repairer of the breach ourselves. Perhaps we feel the country is on the wrong path, well we can fast to be a restorer of the path.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

What do people do on Sunday? Are they watching football? Having a party? Spouting off about their own opinions? Or, are they refraining from all that, are they in God's word, following God's ways, and speaking God's words? The Sabbath is a day to rest from all your work, all your opinions, all your ideas, and a time to listen to the Lord, honor Him, let Him speak to you.

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

This is the goal, if you learn to pray and fast appropriately it will be like surfing the top of the wave rather than always being swamped by the waves.


OK, so how do we get to this goal?

6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Consider Tom Brady. He is famous because he doesn't eat certain foods that he feels will shorten his career. One of the things he doesn't eat is strawberries? Can you believe that? He has kept himself from eating strawberries and other foods for his entire career. Why? So that he could be a champion, so that they could win a number of rings, so that he could go to the playoffs every year of his career. This is why we fast, to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, to break every yoke. When I was teaching my goal was to "let the oppressed go free". I was teaching in Brooklyn, my kids came into the school as some of the poorest inner city kids in the city, their scores were at the bottom of the city and my goal was that they would leave at the top. To do that you have to fast. I would spend my summers preparing lesson plans. I wasn't mourning, I had a goal, just like Tom Brady had a goal.

7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

I knew the stuff I was teaching was easy for me and I wanted to make it easy for my students. We saw some students make a tremendous transformation over four years, that was truly a joy to our heart.

Now that we know the goal and the way, let's look at the error that was being made

2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.

Sounds good.

3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge?

Really? This does not sound like Tom Brady. Where is the goal of restoring the wall or the paths of old?

Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.

Yes, you go to church on Sunday, but then you go watch the football game and you are making others work. It is still a day all about you, no listening to the Lord, no letting the Lord speak.

4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

You are self righteous. You are on Facebook and other platforms to debate and accuse and condemn. You are not fasting to rebuild the waste places, or to loose the yoke of bondage, no you are fasting so that your voice can be heard on high.

5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the Lord?

You don't fast because you are mourning. You fast because you have a goal, I want these kids to be the ones riding on the waves, not being swamped by them. Sure I want them to work hard, study hard, but I can't control that, what I can control is my own working, my own studying. I need time and to get it I fast. Maybe I skip the football game, maybe I skip the debates on Facebook, maybe I skip the movie, maybe I skip dinner. Whatever it is, the goal, like Tom Brady, is to be a champion, to shine forth Jesus Christ, so that our Father in heaven's name would be hallowed.
 

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2 Corinthians 2 -- The proof of you, obedient in all things

1 But I determined this with myself, that I would not come again to you in heaviness. 2 For if I make you sorry, who is he then that maketh me glad, but the same which is made sorry by me?

This book is the New Testament, it is a legal document concerning our inheritance. There are many testimonies and experiences of the servants of God that are not part of the New Testament. So I wonder why we care about Paul delaying his coming to Corinth? The Bible is the living word of God, it is as valid today as the day it was spoken or written. Right now I’m not that concerned that Paul delayed his coming to Corinth, but I am much more interested in why Jesus is delaying His coming. I am holding this word that “in Him is the yes and amen”. I agree with chapter one that the Lord’s promised return is not some frivolous promise or an empty promise that He won’t fulfill. In chapter 1 Paul said he was an apostle of Jesus Christ, that means he is a sent one of Jesus Christ. If the Lord sends you to Corinth you don’t “decide with myself” not to come, Jonah tried that and it did not work very well. So the way I read this is that Paul is speaking “in Christ”. When the Lord comes He doesn’t want to make you sorry. If He comes and you are sleeping and not watching you will be sorry. The tribulation will be the worst time in history. You could compare it to the holocaust in Germany, but that was a miniscule example of what it will be like. It was possible to escape the holocaust if you left soon enough or were willing to crawl through the sewers and take some risks. There will be no escaping what is coming. The easiest and best way to receive the Lord’s forgiveness and salvation is now. You could also compare this to the flood, it will be sudden, catastrophic, with no escape. However, the flood was only 40 days, this will be for a number of years. So then the Lord’s delay is a mercy.

3 And I wrote this same unto you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow from them of whom I ought to rejoice; having confidence in you all, that my joy is the joy of you all.

The word written, the apostle’s fellowship with us, is given to us so that when the Lord returns we all would have joy. This is the point of the ministry, that we all would be saved and rejoice at the Lord’s coming. Today the news reported that a six year old kid shot his kindergarten teacher. This was not an accident, it was intentional. She is in stable condition, but the bullet could have easily been fatal if it was a few inches this way or that way. There are so many stories but the point is simple, we will rejoice when we get out of here. This world is becoming a hell hole. We are now being shown what a world that is run by man, by man that has totally rejected God, looks like. These are not “agnostics”, no they believe there is a God but they have embraced Satan as their god.

4 For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you. 5 But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all. 6 Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.

All of us have sinned. We all can worry that at the Lord’s return we will be put to shame. Right now the big issue we have is with the apostate church. This is referred to in Revelation as the church in Laodicea. This is the church that is ruled by man’s opinion. Jesus is outside the church, He is knocking and calling for those inside to come out to Him. This apostate church is filled with Satanic pastors described by Peter and Jude. Eyes full of adultery, springs without water, twice dead, the descriptions are very clear. They are prophets after the example of Balaam and Judas. They prophecy for money and they will sell out the Lord for a bag of silver.

7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow. 8 Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.

This is how the Body of Christ is built and knit together. We deal with the sins and offenses that must happen, but it is a process that involves the restoration to the fellowship. Many of us, perhaps all of us, have come out of sinful backgrounds. It could have been a cult, I heard the testimony of a man who claims he was high up in Satanic cults and was a “vampire” living solely off of human blood. Murderers have been saved, felons have been saved and apparently even a vampire has been saved. We are not here judging and condemning. We are witnessing of Jesus and His salvation, we are preaching the truth about sin and hell in love, with the goal that people would repent and be saved and not condemned for eternity to hell.

9 For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.

Once again, we want the Lord to come and to be found in Him in joy. Simple question: were you obedient in all things? The context of this word is not about judging others but about forgiving and loving each other. The Lord commanded us to love one another. The apostate church says some verses in the Bible are out of date. They embrace the LBGTQ+ group. That is not being obedient in all things. Some reject those who are watching for the Lord’s return saying “no one knows the day or the hour” as though that means we are not to watch. Jesus commanded us to watch, telling man not to is to not be obedient in all things. Others are self righteous, judging and condemning people. We are told clearly to forgive men their trespasses so that our heavenly father may forgive our trespasses. Condemning and unforgiveness is also not being obedient to the Lord in all things.

10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; 11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Think about this election fraud. How does it work, what are the devices of Satan? You make everyone that is involved think that they are guilty, they can’t be forgiven, so they are afraid to make a full confession. That is foolish. We know that some people paid $400 million for this fraud, some people organized and planned it, but we also know that the vast majority of those who carried it out were pawns. By all means we want to give them an opportunity to confess with either immunity from prosecution or a reduced sentence (perhaps misdemeanor rather than felony).
 

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2Corinthians 2 -- God always causes us to triumph in Christ

12 Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ's gospel, and a door was opened unto me of the Lord, 13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.

There is another device that Satan does which is to open doors for us. The goal is not for Paul to build his ministry, Paul’s ministry is simply serving the Lord. The goal is that the kingdom would come to earth and that involves all of us. We need to learn to listen to the Lord’s spirit within, sometimes the enemy comes with a trap or a trick that looks like we are advancing the kingdom. We should have learned that from the people of Gibeon. The people of Gibeon offered what appeared to be a good peace treaty to Joshua and instead of checking with the Lord in his spirit he accepted it. Always check to see if you have peace in your spirit first, and remember, just because a door has been opened that is not proof that the Lord wants you to go through that door.

14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.


This is a huge promise. The precondition is that we are obedient in all things, but if so God causeth us to triumph in Christ, always. I have not been concerned with the “odds” or “chances” of the election fraud being caught and the result overturned. My concern was if the protestors were “obedient in all things”. As long as they held to God and to the Lord Jesus I knew God would always cause us to triumph. When I was teaching I was led to develop lessons using Elearning software. I went all in on this approach. But then the AP at my school said I could not use the computers and gave no explanation at all. As a result I felt I needed to leave and find a school that would not prevent me from continuing to pursue this. I went to a school in Long Island, but this school was feeding kids the answers from the principal all the way down. I refused to cheat and so I was fired on a made up charge. At that point there was a recession on and a hiring freeze in NYC for teachers except for teachers with my certification because there was a shortage. So I got a job at the school in Brooklyn. You might not like having to go from the one school to the next but it was very helpful. While in Brooklyn many things happened but I always was well aware that of the three possible schools this was the best with the best principal. She had the same goal I did which was to make a difference in these kids lives, to restore the waste places.

15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: 16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?


You don’t calculate our triumph in who gets saved and who doesn’t. If that were the case then Paul should have taken the open door. No, we calculate our triumph in whether or not we are a sweet savour of Christ. As long as you are a sweet savour of Christ you win. For those who reject Christ you are a savour of their coming judgement, for those who receive Christ you are a savour that strengthens their faith in the coming salvation. The key thing is to be a very clear testimony of the Lord Jesus, His victory on the cross, and the coming judgement. What people do with it will determine if it is a savour unto life or unto death.

17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

There are many who corrupt the word of God into the “prosperity gospel”. Paul is not saying that at all. He is saying that even in persecution, affliction and death you can be a sweet savour of Christ and if you are then you triumph. There is nothing the enemy can do, all will get that savour and it will speak to everyone. The idea that you would judge your walk with the Lord by gold rings, automobiles, or mansions is abhorrent. Then there are others, cult leaders, who teach that it is all about numbers. You have an open door, take it. The more people the more that give money. No it is all about being one with the Lord, being His faithful servant, and heeding His speaking in your spirit. Imagine if I had compromised with the first AP who didn't want me using computers. I never would have seen the success that I had. This is the Lord's ministry, He is the one leading me, not her. Many teachers will do whatever the AP says knowing that as long as she is happy their job is secure. However, NYC was shutting down failing schools and many teachers who took that approach had the rug pulled out from under them. Then imagine if I had gone along with the principal who was pushing his form of cheating. All teachers in every subject were directed to feed kids the answers during the tests. This way the kid writes them in their handwriting and an audit will not show the statistical anomalies that exposed the cheating going on in other schools like Atlanta. This is to "corrupt" the word. The pastors and churches do the same thing. They bring in entertainment, concerts, plays, singers, all kinds of gimmicks to fill the church and make it appear to be thriving. But where is the word of God?
 

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I have begun posting videos on Rumble because this platform went down for two days. Also, these videos make it easy for someone to listen to one of these posts rather than reading them.

The key principle for the watchmen
https://rumble.com/v24otiu-the-signs-of-the-lords-coming.html

When you see this sign know that the rapture is here.
https://rumble.com/v24rc2u-the-biggest-sign-prior-to-the-rapture.html

Is this evidence that the ten Days of Awe began at the Feast of Trumpets in 2020?
https://rumble.com/v24rqiu-when-did-the-last-ten-years-the-days-of-awe-begin.html

Is Joel a second witness that the rapture takes place when we see the Ezekiel 38 army?
https://rumble.com/v24smro-joel-2-the-rapture-takes-place-when-we-see-the-ezekiel-38-army.html

Does Paul also confirm that the Ezekiel 38 war comes first?
https://rumble.com/v24tg9w-2thessalonians-2-the-rebellion-comes-first.html

https://rumble.com/v24vv2m-rachels-ministry-of-reconciliation.html
 

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2Corinthians 3 -- Do we begin again?

1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?

Wow! Do you realize he is the apostle of the Lord? He has been sent to us with a message from the Lord and this is the message! So instead of thinking of Paul saying this, think of Jesus. Do you still need to see letters of reference for Jesus? Do we begin again? It seems the answer is obviously no, and yet it is really yes. Jesus was incarnated, went to the cross, died, rose again, and breathed into the apostles. Now, the apostles begin again to live with the incarnated Christ in their hearts, to also go to the cross, and they too will experience their word being resurrected and breathed into our hearts. Now it is our turn, we have Jesus living in our hearts, we live with Him, we go to the cross, and we know the fellowship of His sufferings and then the outstanding resurrection.

2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men: 3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

We are the letters of reference for Jesus, and for Paul. When the Lord returns will He find faith? Will He find saints that are “Letters of commendation”, the word of God is written on their hearts? That is the point of the ministry, that the words of the Lord would be written on our hearts so that we manifest and express Him when He returns. Jesus was the prototype, Paul and the apostles were the first run from this factory, but now at the end of the age have there been a million more “epistles” written?

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward: 5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

That is the point, Paul is ministering the New Testament. We have a covenant with God that “Christ in us is the hope of glory”. In these chapters we have to view this as Christ in Paul the hope of glory speaking. Many of us have been looking at the signs and prophecies of the Lord’s coming. Many of these “watchmen” have become fixated on the Old Testament feasts. Although Paul said in Colossians that these feasts are a shadow of things to come they are still part of the Old Testament. The rapture of the church before the hour of trial is a New Testament promise. We have a covenant with the Lord and in that covenant there is a promise that He will return to gather us to Himself so that where He is there we will be also. This is not part of the Old covenant, this is a new covenant promise, so why are all these “watchmen” ignoring the New Testament? The Feast of Trumpets and the Atonement are both feasts that are part of the covenant to the Jews. How could either one be fulfilled by the rapture of the church composed primarily of Gentiles?

7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not steadfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

Yes, when you catch the crooks there is glory in that. But when you transform the deplorables into the bride of Christ that is exceedingly glorious. This is my point exactly, yes there is glory in the Old Covenant, but the New Covenant exceeds in glory and most notably that is the rapture. The flesh is sinful, it is corrupt, it is being done away with. The process of exposing the corruption, exposing the sin and doing away with it is glorious. But what is exceedingly glorious is when you take a sinful, fleshly man and you minister righteousness to him so that he is transformed into an epistle of Jesus written on his heart with the spirit.

10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

These liars and crooks and thieves are being done away with. Yes we will cheer and clap when this is done. But the bride of Christ will remain, that is a far more lasting glory.

12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not steadfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. 15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
What is this vail? They see Paul, they don’t see Christ in him, the hope of glory. They need letters of commendation and don’t see that the deplorables transformed into the bride of Christ is His letter of commendation. At the end of this age they will be the sign to this evil generation. They will see them stand up in the streets of Nineveh and prevent the house from being broken into. When the Lord comes He will find faith written on the hearts of these ones. The rapture of the believers will ultimately take away the vail that is upon the hearts of the Jews. At that point they won’t see deplorables, they will see a glorious bride without spot or wrinkle. They won’t see a carpenter’s son, they will Jesus Christ, Lord of all, in all His glory.

17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


Who organized these people to stand up? Who got them together to do this? The Lord is that Spirit. It isn’t by power or might, it is by the Spirit of the Lord. The powers that be have told them to shut up and move on, but where the Spirit of the Lord is there is the freedom to say no, I will stand by faith.

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Can you imagine that when the Lord returns there would be millions of believers watching and ready and in the same image as the Lord? What does this mean “changed into the same image from glory to glory”. No doubt this is referring to a process, like the songs of ascent, going up step by step with the rapture being the ultimate step.
Now look at this, Paul is telling you that the rapture of the saints is like a mirror of the Lord’s glory in His resurrection. We are beholding the crucified and resurrected Christ and we are changed into the same image like a mirror. Well then, what is the mirror image of the Lord’s resurrection? Surely it is the rapture. What is the one day we have been charged to keep as a rehearsal of the Lord’s coming and our wedding feast? It is the Lord’s table. The Lord’s table was the Lord’s “last meal”. Jesus was on death row, in 24 hours He would be crucified, dead and buried. Our dress rehearsal for the rapture is “a last meal” of the Lord on death row. We will have a mirror image of the last meal. The rapture snatches us out of the way of certain destruction.
 

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More Evidence that the Ezekiel 38 war takes place at the start of the 70th week

Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

Most teach that this was fulfilled in AD 70. But that is strange. On the one hand it flows perfectly as the Lord is telling the apostles what is about to befall them, but on the other hand AD 70, the destruction of the Temple, was the beginning of the church age, the age of grace, not "the days of vengeance". Even if you want to apply this solely to the Jews it doesn't make sense. Jesus crucifixion was after 69 weeks, at that point the Jews were put on hold until the 70th week begins. There is a perfect symmetry here which is why this is confusing. The age of grace began with Jerusalem surrounded by an army and it will end with Jerusalem surrounded by an army. At the beginning of this age the Lord had taken his protection away from Jerusalem and they were destroyed. At the end of the age, once the church is raptured, the times of the Gentiles will be over and once again the Lord will turn His attention to Israel and rescue them from certain destruction. That is the Ezekiel 38 war.

Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Jesus' ministry proclaims the jubilee. The day of vengeance takes place after the age of grace.
 

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Escape -- To Flee

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

This is the first use of this word "escape". It occurs 7 times in the Greek New Testament.

2Corinthians 11:33 And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and escaped his hands.


In chapter 3 Paul says that the rapture of the church is the mirror image of the Lord's resurrection. Here we see his "escape" from the city being surrounded by a garrison. Paul was "let down" we will be "taken up". The word means to be lowered from a higher place to a lower place, at our rapture we will be taken from a lower place to a higher place.

Acts 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

Here the word for escape is translated "fled".

1Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

In Greek it actually says "Escape not Escape". What we have here is a picture of a great deceit. People are being gaslighted. This would be like the Ambassador to the US from Japan coming and to the Whitehouse and assuring all is well hours before the Pearl Harbor attack. Perhaps the best example is the Trojan horse. They give this gift saying that they have surrendered, you win. Then they sail away. The Trojans take the horse into the city and celebrate that they now have "peace and security" but what they really have is sudden destruction.

My point is that this word "escape" is always used in the context of fighting, a war, and fleeing. You could see it in the context of this vaccine as a "trojan horse" bringing the enemy into your body. Or we could see it as an army surrounding the city like the warning Jesus gave in Luke 21 about when we see Jerusalem surrounded by an army.

Now think about what we are being told concerning the vaccine, it is safe and effective, everyone must take it. Is that the truth or are we being gaslighted? This verse in 1Thessalonians describes what we are seeing now with the media telling us something we know is not true. The same can be said of the war in Ukraine. It is not hard to imagine that Russia and a host of Islamic nations would surround Jerusalem with their army and the Media would be telling us "peace and safety".

Also the picture is about the tribulation. Satan has us surrounded at the beginning and it seems there is no escape. In this situation the church is raptured, caught up, snatched away from his clutches.

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Jeremiah 25:12-37 Butchers drive sheep with fear to the slaughter

12 “But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians, for their guilt,” declares the Lord, “and will make it desolate forever.

"Their guilt" I believe refers to what happened in WWII. You might think that the US represented "the good guys" during WWII. However, George Bush's dad, Henry Ford, along with the Rothschilds in the UK were the ones behind "the German miracle". They were the puppet masters for Hitler. They wanted a powerful military to be a wall between them and the communists in Russia and war is very profitable to bankers and industrialists.

13 I will bring on that land all the things I have spoken against it, all that are written in this book and prophesied by Jeremiah against all the nations. 14 They themselves will be enslaved by many nations and great kings; I will repay them according to their deeds and the work of their hands.”

There is evidence that the pandemic was actually the first step in a war to incapacitate the US. We have had a number of massive cyber attacks on the US which would be the second stage of an attack. The election fraud appears to be an attack by China, Iran and our enemies to seize control of the US.

15 This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, said to me: “Take from my hand this cup filled with the wine of my wrath and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. 16 When they drink it, they will stagger and go mad because of the sword I will send among them.”

I hate to recount the hypocrisy and bald faced lies of the press that we are forced to drink and just make us mad. But for illustration purposes let's look at one example. When Jacob Blake was shot it provoked anger and riots. There was outrage at the police. The facts of the case were that there was a warrant for his arrest, he was resisting arrest, he was in violation of a court order to stay away from his girlfriend and he was potentially kidnapping his three children who were in the back seat. He had attacked police previously with a knife and was shot reaching for a knife. Still the reaction was to riot and loot and for the press to scream about police brutality. Compare that with January 6 where a woman who was trespassing in the capitol building was shot and killed. She did not have a criminal record, she did not have a weapon, and as far as has been reported she was not involved in violent behavior. But this time the outrage from the media was directed at her. Both Jacob Blake and this woman were in the wrong. We don’t like to see either person get shot or hurt but in both cases I can understand the police seeing the need to use deadly force. What I don’t understand is the incredible hypocrisy of the press. This woman, a veteran, was treated as something to scrape off of your shoe whereas Jacob Blake was treated like a martyr and a saint.

17 So I took the cup from the Lord’s hand and made all the nations to whom he sent me drink it:18 Jerusalem and the towns of Judah, its kings and officials, to make them a ruin and an object of horror and scorn, a curse—as they are today;

Millions protesting the lies and corruption in Brazil, Sri Lanka and Pakistan in complete collapse, Mexico is in civil war, the US border is wide open, many cities in the US are more dangerous than war zones, and everyone, worldwide, is coming to the realization that the vaccine is a kill shot.

19 Pharaoh king of Egypt, his attendants, his officials and all his people, 20 and all the foreign people there; all the kings of Uz; all the kings of the Philistines (those of Ashkelon, Gaza, Ekron, and the people left at Ashdod); 21 Edom, Moab and Ammon; 22 all the kings of Tyre and Sidon; the kings of the coastlands across the sea; 23 Dedan, Tema, Buz and all who are in distant places; 24 all the kings of Arabia and all the kings of the foreign people who live in the wilderness;25 all the kings of Zimri, Elam and Media; 26 and all the kings of the north, near and far, one after the other—all the kingdoms on the face of the earth. And after all of them, the king of Sheshak will drink it too.

What happens to the US will affect the entire world. We are already seeing massive censorship from Tech giants like Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. There is a reason we call these corporations "multinational". Germany, Denmark, Australia, Israel, African nations, Taiwan, and the US are all coming out with studies showing that the vaccine is very deadly. Everyone drank this poison.

27 “Then tell them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Drink, get drunk and vomit, and fall to rise no more because of the sword I will send among you.’ 28 But if they refuse to take the cup from your hand and drink, tell them, ‘This is what the Lord Almighty says: You must drink it! 29 See, I am beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears my Name, and will you indeed go unpunished? You will not go unpunished, for I am calling down a sword on all who live on the earth, declares the Lord Almighty.’

There are a lot of people who are resisting the censorship. But they will be forced to drink. 80% of people in the US took the vaccine, most other countries have an even higher percentage. However, in the end every single person will be forced to take this once it becomes the mark of the beast. What has happened has been called Orwellian. The way in which China monitors its populace and locks them down is certainly Orwellian. What you are seeing is the Lord Almighty beginning to bring disaster on the city that bears His name.

30 “Now prophesy all these words against them and say to them: “‘The Lord will roar from on high; he will thunder from his holy dwelling and roar mightily against his land. He will shout like those who tread the grapes, shout against all who live on the earth. 31 The tumult will resound to the ends of the earth, for the Lord will bring charges against the nations; he will bring judgment on all mankind and put the wicked to the sword,’” declares the Lord.

A description of the Great Tribulation. The Lord is going to roar, we see these protests spreading to the whole globe. The rapture will be the Lord roaring mightily. The four horsemen of the apocalypse are one example of the Lord roaring mightily. The deception of the press is the white horse riding, the war in Ukraine is the red horse coming out of the starting gate, we see the black horse right behind with shortages of food and inflation already causing famine in parts of the world, and the pale green horse of plague, that left the starting blocks in 2020.

32 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Look! Disaster is spreading from nation to nation; a mighty storm is rising from the ends of the earth.” 33 At that time those slain by the Lord will be everywhere—from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.

On top of the pandemic, and the looming economic collapse we have natural disasters that threaten to be truly Biblical in scale. I know this term has been used frequently in 2020 but the catastrophe that is about to happen is so great that in an hour the entire situation worldwide will change. We also have evidence that death rates are skyrocketing because of the vaccine. 18-64 year olds are seeing a 40% rise in death rates. On top of all that we are daily getting threats of nuclear war being made by megalomaniacs like Putin and N. Korea.

34 Weep and wail, you shepherds; roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock. For your time to be slaughtered has come; you will fall like the best of the rams. 35 The shepherds will have nowhere to flee, the leaders of the flock no place to escape. 36 Hear the cry of the shepherds, the wailing of the leaders of the flock, for the Lord is destroying their pasture. 37 The peaceful meadows will be laid waste because of the fierce anger of the Lord.

Consider that you are a pastor of a church that made excuses for why we no longer needed to listen to the Lord’s word. In place after place you made compromises with Jezebel and the prophets of Baal. The rapture comes and you and your flock are left behind. There will be no place for you to hide. Or consider what happened during the pandemic to schools. They taught the kids with Zoom, every parent was brought into the classroom and heard the things being taught whether it was from groomers or the CRT indoctrination.

Finally let’s consider one other thing, the Lord said “my sheep hear my voice” and they follow Him. Sheep follow shepherds because they hear the Lord’s voice. But butchers drive sheep with fear. They don’t know the butcher so they run from them and are driven by fear to the slaughter. Do you hear the Lord’s voice? Or are you running in fear from the butcher towards your slaughter?

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2 Corinthians 4 -- The only sign this wicked generation will see

Right now there is a lot of interest in the prophecies concerning the end of the age and also about the rapture. But in the last chapter we saw that the goal of this ministry is to make us a letter of commendation for the Lord Jesus. His words are engraved on our hearts. The bride of Christ is the goal of this ministry which will have eternal glory. This group of people will be transformed into the same image of the Lord by His Spirit.

1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

We have seen many Christian ministries crash and burn as hidden things of dishonesty were revealed. That is because judgment begins with the house of God. But like a tempered sword, after being judged we are transformed into the sword of the Lord. We have renounced these hidden things of dishonesty. All of us have had this experience at some point in our lives. People who are dishonest have to become crafty and they handle the truth deceitfully. So now at the end of the age the “letter of commendation” for the Lord is that His people who have been derided as deplorable and chumps, that these people know how to deal with the hidden things of dishonesty, they know how to handle crafty snakes, they know how to renounce the handling of the truth deceitfully. The world may think our education system for math is behind many other countries, but when it comes to renouncing lies we are very well trained.

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Jesus is the image of the invisible God. If you are a believer the light of this glorious gospel has shined unto you. You have seen how Jesus handled the deceitful and crafty and dishonest attacks. “Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, yes or no”. This is the kind of training they don’t give in the public schools, you get it from the word of God.

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

Remember this verse. The first three chapters Paul was not preaching himself. His not wanting to come when they weren’t ready, that was not himself, that was the Lord. Today all the false preachers are “preaching themselves”. Jesus said the volume of the roll of the book is about Him, but these false ones make it about themselves.

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

Once again, if you are a letter of commendation at Jesus’ return you will be a light to shine out of darkness. For two thousand years the darkness was in us, in the church, and judgment began there. But right now the darkness is clearly in the world and it is incumbent upon us “to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ”.

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

I have watched several women give their testimony to various hearings and my impression was “wow, this treasure in earthen vessels”. Several representatives tried to intimidate and disparage them and they got totally renounced by them. The modern expression is “mic drop”.

8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; 9 Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; 10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.

So yes, we are troubled on every side. Facebook censored one of my posts because in the video they said the people were pulling “suitcases filled with ballots” out from under this table where they had been hidden all day to then count them while no one watched. According to Facebook they weren’t suitcases they were “boxes”. OK, but they appeared to have wheels on them so these were really nice boxes. But the story was not about suitcases, it was about hidden ballots being counted when no one is looking. The mainstream media declared victory in certain states when it didn’t make sense and didn’t declare victory in others when it also didn’t make sense. It was perplexing. Also, they stopped counting when it looked like Trump had won and then early in the morning when they had stopped counting all of a sudden they discovered hundreds of thousands of votes for Biden. It was perplexing. People get persecuted by the cancel culture. Yet every time some business or person got attacked and persecuted the “deplorables” rose up to support that person whether with donations or by supporting their business. So yes, we have seen people persecuted but not forsaken. We have seen people cast down but not destroyed. Finally everyone is very much aware that these protests must bear about in our body the dying of the Lord Jesus. I was in Atlanta, they didn’t give them a permit to protest so we all had to stay on the sidewalk and couldn’t get in the street. Everyone was very submissive to and appreciative of the police. Just like the Lord said “which one of you convicts me of sin?”

11 For we which live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh. 12 So then death worketh in us, but life in you.

The term is “courage is contagious”. 234 affidavits turns into a thousand. People are taking pictures of companies hired to shred ballots. They are pulling these shred ballots out of the garbage and sending them to the lawyers. More and more people are becoming emboldened to stand up. The Twitter files is the watershed moment where you can no longer deny the truth.

13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; 14 Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

Standing up for justice is all about having faith in the resurrection. I believe I will appear before the Lord one day to answer for the things I have done and said and therefore I stand up and speak.

15 For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God.

Many people from Trump to these commentators on the internet have marveled about these people, these witnesses, these lawyers and these protestors. It redounds to the glory of God.

16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

Every day as we see more evidence come out we get renewed. When we hear that despite the mainstream media doing everything in their power to censor this story that over 70% of voters now believe the election was stolen we know we are having an impact. That is why the Biden campaign canceled their inauguration saying they would do it remotely! They were terrified that if they had an inauguration millions of “stop the steal” protestors would show up and they would be shamed before the whole world.

17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;

I missed the Martin Luther King march at Washington, but no way I was going to miss these. I take selfies at every one, not something that I typically do, because I want photographic evidence that I was there. My plan is to show these as evidence when I have to appear before the Lord Jesus to be judged.

18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Some people see temporary protests that will die out over a few weeks. But what I see is the sign of Jonah to this wicked generation, the only sign that they will get before the Lord’s coming. I don’t want to miss one moment of it.

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Jeremiah 25:38 The first rapture

38 Like a lion he will leave his lair, and their land will become desolate because of the sword of the oppressor and because of the Lord’s fierce anger.

On the one hand the first rapture is likened to a bridegroom coming for His bride, but what about the foolish virgins who are locked out of the feast? On one hand it is likened to reaping the harvest to the barn, but what about the crops that are not ripe yet? On one hand it is likened to the Lord returning from a long journey to settle accounts, but what about those Christians who buried their talent? The rapture is likened to both Noah being rescued and Lot being rescued. Noah is in Hebrews chapter 11, Faith's hall of fame, as a "preacher of righteousness". Lot is not in Hebrews chapter 11, he is called "a righteous man". Even though he was righteous he buried his talent, kept his mouth shut, didn't make waves. We see this in Genesis when they treat him with scorn "who are you to tell us what to do?" Hey, if you were a man of God you would have been taken in the first rapture, God doesn't want you, why should we listen to you.

On the one hand it is the sword of the oppressor, or the totalitarian regime. They hate the church, everyone needs to worship them, listen to them. They are completely against free thought or free speech. People are treated like dumb beasts of burden who work to build up their kingdom until they can’t and then they are killed. Look at the numbers of those killed by this pandemic closely, it is almost exclusively the elderly and the infirm. Those that are costing the State money. Their death has saved the state money in healthcare costs and pension costs. Secondly it's because of the Lord’s fierce anger. You rejected His word. You rejected His warnings.

Now we are seeing a whole new and deadlier pandemic sweeping through China and presumably will travel to the whole world this year. 80% of our jobs can all be replaced by computers, AI and robots. We don't need cashiers, stockers and truck drivers, simply order your stuff online and Amazon or some other company can handle the entire process with the object being shipped by drone and self driving Tesla trucks. We don't need CPA's, we have software that can do your taxes. We don't need paralegals we have AI that can do that. AI is replacing artists, song writers, and writers. Robots and 3d printers are performing operations. Robots are replacing people in manufacturing. But if you put 80% of your workers out of business, what will they do? Are they going to become protestors? They could be much more trouble than they are worth. So create a newer and deadlier pandemic, problem solved. Get used to the new world order because death is always the solution to every problem.

1. Climate change? Kill 7.5 billion people, problem solved.

2. Pollution? Ditto.

3. Social Security is bankrupt? Kill all retired people and the problem is solved.

4. Poverty and Single parent mothers? Ditto. This solution is brought to you from the same minds who felt the way to deal with unwanted pregnancies was to kill the baby rather than help kids to not be sexually active.

5. Gangs, violence and drugs? Yep, just kill them.

6. Overcrowded prisons? Yep, just kill them.

Jesus gave you a path to salvation and you chose the broadway that leads to destruction. Where did you think this road ended up?
 

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Time is up. This storm in California is our final warning before the US is judged with a consuming fire.

My understanding of these prophecies is that the earthquake they are talking about is the opening of the sixth seal, and that the opening of the sixth seal includes the rapture of about 1/6th of the genuine believers. The church is a mixed multitude with many who claim to be believers are not, so this number is probably 1/12th of those who call themselves Christians.

There are about 12 major cities that are marked out for total destruction: NYC, Miami, San Francisco, etc. They mention the cities in this video. You don't want to be in those cities, now is the time you have to get out. However, the entire east coast between the coast and the Appalachian mountains could be directly impacted by the nukes, the fire, and the flood. Likewise the whole West coast will also be directly impacted.

The good news is that this judgment will bring in a major revival. Many, many people will turn wholly to the Lord as a result of this.