Are you required of your church to hold to error? Thankfully, I am not.
Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?
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They were born of God first. Again receiving and believing are active, so they denote life. Dead people dont believe and receive because they dead. Duh
Dead means to be separated, it does not stop the act of believing.
Correct. "Dead" does not mean physically dead, however it does mean that the spirit is dead until a person is quickened by the Holy Spirit (who revives the spirit through the New Birth). But Calvinists deny the true sequence of events which leads to the New Birth. They flip and twist the Scriptures to fit their bizarre theology.
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Yes, but the Jews are still the chosen people. There are still promises God will keep to the Jews.
Right dead is seperated, seperated from God and the life of God, and Spiritually dead people dont and cant believe Spiritually. Believing is Spiritual activity.
So Jesus tells his followers to do something they cannot do?
40 Then Jesus said, “Did I not tell you that if you believe, you will see the glory of God?”
So God tells us to do something we are not capable of, nope that is not God.
There are hyper-anti-Calvinists here too?Not true, and you have been corrected on this erroneous definition, but are adamantly unteachable.
Total depravity is an acknowledgement that as a result of the fall of man, his mind, will, emotions and
flesh have been corrupted by sin. How any Christian can claim the Bible does not teach this is beyond me.
You may as well say people are not born lost, dead to God. Come to think of it, I have seen that said, too
Someone brings up particulars in scripture and the fall back to deny those teachings is to label it Calvinism, so to discredit the teaching itself.
Matthew 22:29 , 1 Corinthians 2:14
God tells us in different parts of his word that the natural man, mind, cannot understand his will and ways.
God's name isn't Calvin! And his word preceded Calvinism.
Cloaked Universalism isn't really obscured by crying foul, Calvinism, either.
True.God's gift of grace and faith. Afforded through his Holy Spirit lending understanding where before the natural mind could not understand the things of God.
I've noted in my travels those who insist we can choose salvation and understanding are also of a mind we can choose to return to our fallen damnable blind state.
Therein fixing all ability upon human will, not God's.
That's what some call auto-theism, or, self as God powered.
As well, if this position is true, whose fault is it if the “unregenerate” man never accesses the “things of God”?
Answer: God, you make God morally culpable.
What scripture is actually teaching, outside of the contamination of the Calvinism, not the contrast between the natural man and the regenerate man but rather that from the natural perspective and the spiritual perspective.
People were putting natural wisdom of Greek philosophy over what needs to be understood from a spiritual perspective.
Go read 1 Cor 2 and step outside of bias you bring to the text and read from the perspective of Paul and his audience.
“These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.” (John 20:31)
The power of conversion is in the hear and reading of the written word.
The word of God is sufficiently powerful, faith comes by hearing. Scripture is clear.
This is just a nonsensical false accusation. Since you do not have a leg to stand on you are now resorting to foolish comments.
It is God Himself who urges people to choose whom to serve, to choose life, and to choose Christ. It is all there in the Bible. And Christ Himself made this crystal clear: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God... He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (John 3:18,36)
According to these words believing or not believing are choices. But you deny what God affirms.
Yes. This is the key to refuting Calvinistic nonsense which denies (1) the POWER of the Gospel and (2) the POWER of the Holy Spirit Himself to convict and convince while the Gospel is preached. As Peter wrote in 1 Peter 1:23-25:
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the Word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the Word which by the Gospel is preached unto you.
So the Gospel is the incorruptible "seed" which gives rise to the New Birth.
I believe your last remarks are what is known as pot calling the kettle black.
What if someone argued that the Holy Spirit applied the Gospel to the ‘elect’ thus giving them new birth/life.
What if someone used scripture...
1 Corinthians 12:3...and that no man can say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
I get in enough trouble on my own. And people have already drawn lines around their positions. Understanding the outworking of salvation isn't a prerequisite to salvation. And even if Jesus came to chat and set us straight, there would still be those who disagreed with Him.Paul was a Calvinist?
Scripture is clear. However, you misunderstand.
If we accept first what Paul affirmed, the natural mind of man cannot understand the things of God because they are foolishness to him.
That is because the things of God cannot be understood by the natural mind. The worldly consciousness.
We're also told this condition only changes through intercession by Holy Spirit.
Now recall what Jesus told us. No one comes to him unless the father calls them.
When intercession by Holy Spirit is the only way our natural mind can understand that which otherwise is thought to be foolishness, that's God's word, then what Jesus said first about leading of the Holy Spirit is the only way we come to the father then makes sense.
In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.
= Faith comes by hearing the word of God.
Think of those strong atheists who mock our faith. Memes of all sort on the net.
The whole world lay in the power of the evil one.
Now think of all those strong atheists that have come to the knowledge of the truth.