Do you observe the Sabbath?
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If that's what the church is teaching it doesn't make sense.
Look at it like this using this example and see if it logically follows:
I am the master over my house and I decided we will have mandatory family game night every Saturday. I needed to take a trip out of town Friday afternoon, I was gone all of Saturday, and I returned Sunday. While I was gone, family game night went on as usual on Saturday per my mandate. After I returned on Sunday, I said nothing about the day of family game night changing.
If my family changed family game night to Sunday while I was gone, do you think I would be utterly baffled as to where they got the authority to do so?
Look at it like this using this example and see if it logically follows:
I am the master over my house and I decided we will have mandatory family game night every Saturday. I needed to take a trip out of town Friday afternoon, I was gone all of Saturday, and I returned Sunday. While I was gone, family game night went on as usual on Saturday per my mandate. After I returned on Sunday, I said nothing about the day of family game night changing.
If my family changed family game night to Sunday while I was gone, do you think I would be utterly baffled as to where they got the authority to do so?
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Christ is always with us, regardless of if physically or spiritually. So not comparable.
Christ is the fulfillment of the OT, and the center of our salvation. The Saturday Sabbath, just like the Mosaic Law was not there as a permanent rule. They both pointed to Christ, the only man who would fulfill them entirely. Since Christ defeated death and resurrected on Sunday, fulfilling the promise long given to our forefathers, we celebrate the day of his Resurrection, because it has been by far the greatest and most miraculous event ever seen in the history of Israel, overriding the Saturday.
Sunday symbolizes Christ, because it is the first and the eighth day of the week, thus the Beginning and the End of the week. Makes sense. Continuing to celebrate the Saturday as the Jews do is basically acting as if Christ never resurrected.
Christ is the fulfillment of the OT, and the center of our salvation. The Saturday Sabbath, just like the Mosaic Law was not there as a permanent rule. They both pointed to Christ, the only man who would fulfill them entirely. Since Christ defeated death and resurrected on Sunday, fulfilling the promise long given to our forefathers, we celebrate the day of his Resurrection, because it has been by far the greatest and most miraculous event ever seen in the history of Israel, overriding the Saturday.
Sunday symbolizes Christ, because it is the first and the eighth day of the week, thus the Beginning and the End of the week. Makes sense. Continuing to celebrate the Saturday as the Jews do is basically acting as if Christ never resurrected.
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Precious friend, a Very Warm Welcome to Chat.
And, thank you so much for your Scriptural agreement about
our 'liberty and freedom' In Christ to be "FULLY persuaded
(in my own mind" = resting 24/7), and 'not judging' others
(Rom 14; Col 2:16-17).
Very refreshing and Encouraging!!
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Precious friend:
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!
And, thank you so much for your Scriptural agreement about
our 'liberty and freedom' In Christ to be "FULLY persuaded
(in my own mind" = resting 24/7), and 'not judging' others
(Rom 14; Col 2:16-17).
Very refreshing and Encouraging!!
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Precious friend:
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)!
But does God want us to do it our way.
Sunday keeping is a man made tradition.
How do you know if it is Gods will?
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
It is disrespectful towards God to say "we are doing it our way God," who cares what God wants.
There is no verse stating that we follow the tradition of Sunday keeping.
Sunday keeping is a man made tradition.
How do you know if it is Gods will?
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
It is disrespectful towards God to say "we are doing it our way God," who cares what God wants.
There is no verse stating that we follow the tradition of Sunday keeping.
In A Doctrinal Catechism,
A question asked to the RC Church
Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
- Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p. 174.
A question asked to the RC Church
Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
- Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p. 174.
Christ didn’t rest on the first day of the week though. He observed the seventh day of the week while alive and he rested in the grave on the seventh day of the week while dead.
What the church has been following is called a false equivalency logical fallacy.
Here’s an example I pulled from the Internet:
“If apples and oranges are both fruits, and there are seeds in both apples and oranges, then since they both contain seeds, apples and oranges are equal.”
Then the church followed it like this:
If the Sabbath is the day of restful honoring of God and Jesus was raised in glory on the first day of the week then the seventh and the first day of the week are equal. Therefore we can change the Sabbath because it doesn’t make a difference.
The invalid conclusion is that just because the Sabbath and the Lord’s Day are alike in some respects then they must be alike in other respects.
What the church has been following is called a false equivalency logical fallacy.
Here’s an example I pulled from the Internet:
“If apples and oranges are both fruits, and there are seeds in both apples and oranges, then since they both contain seeds, apples and oranges are equal.”
Then the church followed it like this:
If the Sabbath is the day of restful honoring of God and Jesus was raised in glory on the first day of the week then the seventh and the first day of the week are equal. Therefore we can change the Sabbath because it doesn’t make a difference.
The invalid conclusion is that just because the Sabbath and the Lord’s Day are alike in some respects then they must be alike in other respects.
The death penalty was prescribed by God in the Old Testament, for transgression of the law.
Sin is also transgression of the law.
The good you know you should be doing but don't do it, is also sin.
Anything that is not of faith is sin.
Rejection of Jesus is a fatal sin.
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a fatal sin.
Not forgiving others means God will not forgive you.
I am not sure that the ten commandments, is a sure fire way, of identifying sin.
Sin is also transgression of the law.
The good you know you should be doing but don't do it, is also sin.
Anything that is not of faith is sin.
Rejection of Jesus is a fatal sin.
Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a fatal sin.
Not forgiving others means God will not forgive you.
I am not sure that the ten commandments, is a sure fire way, of identifying sin.
Once again, you nailed that one.
For some mysterious reason, people don't notice that the law is in the Old Testament, and Jesus is in the New Testament.
The law is the Old Covenant and Jesus established a New Covenant.
Old Testament (Old Covenant) and New Testament (New Covenant).
Old Testament (The Shadow) and New Testament (The Light).
For some mysterious reason, people don't notice that the law is in the Old Testament, and Jesus is in the New Testament.
The law is the Old Covenant and Jesus established a New Covenant.
Old Testament (Old Covenant) and New Testament (New Covenant).
Old Testament (The Shadow) and New Testament (The Light).
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I see the sabbath day as a yoke of slavery.
In my society, there is not a national sabbath day rest like there was in Israel.
Which makes sabbath compliance impossible in my country.
I have never found in any country but Israel, a national sabbath day rest.
Paul tells us we are not under the law. I always read that phrase 'the law' exactly the same way through the New Testament.
I never interpret the text.
Hence, since I am not under the law, I refuse to honor the sabbath.
In my society, there is not a national sabbath day rest like there was in Israel.
Which makes sabbath compliance impossible in my country.
I have never found in any country but Israel, a national sabbath day rest.
Paul tells us we are not under the law. I always read that phrase 'the law' exactly the same way through the New Testament.
I never interpret the text.
Hence, since I am not under the law, I refuse to honor the sabbath.
Hebrews 4 refers to the Sabbath as a day rest that falls on the calendar. It occurs every seven days.
Hebrews 4
1Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed. 3Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
“So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ”
And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” 5And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
6Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”
8For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.
Hebrews 4
1Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it. 2For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed. 3Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,
“So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.’ ”
And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world. 4For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.” 5And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”
6Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience, 7God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:
“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”
8For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day. 9There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.
No one in your country gets 1 day off a week to take a 24 hour Sabbath rest? I mean, that sounds like a yoke of slavery to me.
The Sabbath is supposed be a day of rest where people honor God, you know, something human bodies require and something Christians are supposed to be doing anyway.
You're under the 10 Commandments if you're a Christian and it's one of the standards you'll be judged by:
Matthew 5
17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
James 2
8If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. 9But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.
12Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
The Sabbath is supposed be a day of rest where people honor God, you know, something human bodies require and something Christians are supposed to be doing anyway.
You're under the 10 Commandments if you're a Christian and it's one of the standards you'll be judged by:
Matthew 5
17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
James 2
8If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing right. 9But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.” If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.
12Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom, 13because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.