THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

VCO · Dec 20, 2022

The evidence was FOUR YEARS IN THE MAKING, READ THE ENTIRE THREAD BEFORE YOU OBJECT. Yes some ideas I made a small mistake, AND CORRECTED THEM IN ANOTHER POST. The SANHEDRIN Voted in 1212 after over 1000 years in exile, where they thought the Temple should be, and they thought the Mt. ZION was, they had Four opinions almost evenly matched, so they VOTED like Politicians and GOT BOTH OF THEM WRONG. Here is JOSEPHUS's historical writings, that CLEARLY PUTS IN ON THE OPHEL, and HE is an EYE WITNESS.

DID YOU NOTICE THAT ON THIS FACT SHEET FROM JOSEPHUS the First Century Historian:

QUOTE:
But if we go the other way westward, it began at the same place; and extended through a place called Bethso, to the gate of the Essenes: and after that it went southward: having its bending above the fountain Siloam; where it also bends again towards the east at Solomon’s pool, and reaches as far as a certain place which they called Ophlas [what they called the OPHEL], where it was joined to the eastern cloister [covered walkway] of the temple. The second wall took its beginning from that gate which they called Gennath, which belonged to the first wall. It only encompassed the northern quarter of the city, and reached as far as the tower Antonia. - Josephus The Jewish War Book V chapter 4
:END QUOTE.

Josephus placed the TEMPLE on the OPHEL, not on top of the so-called Temple Mount.

Blue print is mine.

VCO · Dec 21, 2022

Apparently I did not make myself Clear, This was not thoroughly examined by Charles Warren an earlier Historian:

Overview
General Sir Charles Warren, GCMG, KCB, FRS (7 February 1840 – 21 January 1927) was an officer in the British Royal Engineers. He was one of the earliest European archaeologists of the Biblical Holy Land, …

I was hoping that a modern Archaeologist, would of over to his work site, and RE-EXIMINE HIS WORK.

persistent · Dec 21, 2022

VCO said:

The article at this link may be of interest. If you scroll to last couple of paragraphs it references a book published 2006. The gist of it seems to be the politics that will be required to implement the building to commence. A group that is near me is also watching closely for the building of the temple. The article, 'Update on the Building.....' was published 7 Oct. 2022.

Update on the Building of the Third Temple | Jewish Voice

VCO · Dec 22, 2022

persistent said:

Have you any IDEA how many Articles I have READ over the Last Four years in this Study ? ? ?

The TEMPLE has NEVER been on the so called TEMPLE Mount, it has ALWAYS been on the Southwest Corner of the OPHEL, which is the Real Mount ZION. And Mount Moriah Was the name of the ENTIRE RIDGE from North of the Dome of the Rock, all the way South beyond the Pool of Siloam. In other words Mt. Zion was the Central PEAK on the Mt. MORIAH RIDGE. That is the WERE THE TEMPLE HAS ALWAYS BEEN. Over the Four Year Study, I have Proven this beyond a shadow of a Doubt. The Jews every time they go to the Western Wall to pray, are Praying at the Western Wall of Fortress Antonia, home of the ROMAN X LEGION, 6000 Troops in Strength.

persistent · Dec 22, 2022

VCO said:

No idea. I only recently have taken an interest in the temple since I continue to be in contact with a group that claims to have a great interest in the building of the temple. So now I will follow your progress.

VCO · Dec 22, 2022

VCO said:

Typo on the last line.

I was hoping that a modern Archaeologist, would go over to his work site, and RE-EXIMINE HIS WORK

VCO · Dec 22, 2022

persistent said:

I have Doubled and sometimes Tripled the evidence that was necessary to prove that the TEMPLE was on the Southwest corner of the OPHEL. Do I think someone in authority will READ IT? Probably Not.

While the original Theory of the Temple Mount, remains a GUESS. How do I know it is only a GUESS? Muslims refused to let them DIG on top the highest Peak on Mt. Moriah. ALSO ALMOST EVERYONE HAS FORGOTTEN THAT MT. MORIAH IS NOT A SINGLE PEAK BUT THE NAME OF THE WHOLE RIDGE. THUS BOTH OF THESE STATEMENTS FROM SCRIPTURE ARE 100% TRUE:

2 Chronicles 3:1 (HCSB)
1 Then Solomon began to build the LORD’s temple in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah where the LORD had appeared to his father David, at the site David had prepared on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.

Joel 3:17 (HCSB)
17 Then you will know that I am Yahweh your God, who dwells in Zion, My holy mountain. Jerusalem will be holy, and foreigners will never overrun it again.

VCO · Dec 22, 2022

Modern Archaeologists have found King David's Palace, King Solomon inherited it, and remodeled it into 3 building of equal size, Justice Hall, King's Quarters, and one of his QUEEN's Quarters. That second one the King's Quarters, was said to have the Temple Against it. That puts is Squarely on the Southwest corner of the OPHEL.

There was also another house so ordered, that its entire breadth was placed in the middle; it was quadrangular, and its breadth was thirty cubits, having a temple over against it, raised upon massy pillars; in which temple there was a large and very glorious room, wherein the king sat in judgment. To this was joined another house that was built for his queen. . . . JOSEPHUS -
https://www.biblestudytools.com/history/flavius-josephus/war-of-the-jews/book-5/chapter-5.html

And about a paragraph above that quote it says:

The inward parts had the largeness and form of a palace, it being parted into all kinds of rooms and other conveniences, such as courts, and places for bathing, and broad spaces for camps; insomuch that, by having all conveniences that cities wanted, it might seem to be composed of several cities, but by its magnificence it seemed a palace.

Josephus was describing what Fortress Antonia was Like. The top of the Highest Hill belonged to the ROMAN X LEGION.

Where is that Located:

VCO · Dec 22, 2022

I accidently hit Post, before I found the last picture. So here is where KING DAVID PALACE IS:

Radius · Dec 23, 2022

the temple was built on the present day temple mount, bro. You just got to come to terms with it. I'm sorry.

VCO · Dec 23, 2022

How many Temple Artifact could be found on the so-called Temple Mount, should the Muslims give the Jews Permission to DIG ? ? ?

ZERO, because the BED ROCK is just a few feet below the surface.

Radius said:

I have over four years of evidence that IT is on the OPHEL, where the TEMPLE was LOCATED. AND on the TEMPLE MOUNT there is ZERO Evidence, as the Muslims refuse to give anybody permission to conduct an exploratory DIG. IT IS just Speculation and Guesswork. How far down would you have to dig, to find Evidence of the First TEMPLE. They are all ready at KING DAVID's Level, BUT nobody wants to dig across the Road where the true location of the Temple is. So they already Knew the Depth the have to dig to find the First Temple. Your Theory is Pure Speculation, because you would HIT BED ROCK, long before you would hit any evidence.

Now let me show you how WRONG you are. It it the same LOOK from North to South. The most expensive THRESHING FLOOR is one that was BUILT on Bedrock. Here is how much KING DAVID Paid for the Threshing Floor.

1 Chronicles 21:24-25 (HCSB)
24 King David answered Ornan, “No, I insist on paying the full price, for I will not take for the LORD what belongs to you or offer burnt offerings that cost ⌊me⌋ nothing.”
25 So David gave Ornan 15 pounds of gold for the plot.

1 Chronicles 21:24-25 (NJB)
24 ‘No,' said King David to Ornan, ‘I insist on buying it at the full price. I will not offer Yahweh what belongs to you or bring burnt offerings which have cost me nothing.'
25 So David gave Ornan six hundred shekels of gold by weight for the site.

That tells me it was LARGER than the Average Threshing Floor for it's Day, at least three times as wide with Three Circles, and it was purely Bedrock.

The Temple Complex (excluding all of the external Courts) is
885 feet long and 380' 6" wide. https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-jerusalem-temple-mount-threshing-floor.htm

Now there is NOT EVEN ENOUGH FLAT GROUND TO EQUAL EVEN A SMALL FRACTION OF THAT SIZE OF FLAT GROUND ON THE SO-CALLED TEMPLE MOUNT. BUT on the OPHEL there was more that enough flat ground to accommodate that size of Temple Complex.

It had to be a very Large TRIPLE Threshing Floor:

These two are only about 50% as wide, so picture it with twice a wide, and an extra Circle added, and you will be close to what Ornan sold to KING DAVID for 15 Pounds of GOLD.

VCO · Dec 24, 2022

I cleaned up the spots on this drawing, to give it a better look.

That may be what it looked like the day Solomon finished his build. With the private staircase entrance into the TEMPLE.

This is what Christmas is all about.

He was born to pay for our Sins.

VCO · Dec 25, 2022

Do you know that most Christmas Card Artists have never read the story of Nativity in the BIBLE, Nor the Story of the Wisemen in the Bible. There Artwork picturing the Shepherds and the Wisemen there the same night, is FALSE, and is a dead give away.

Luke 2:7-16 (NASB)
7 And she gave birth to her firstborn son; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.
8 In the same region there were some shepherds staying out in the fields and keeping watch over their flock by night.
9 And an angel of the Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them; and they were terribly frightened.
10 But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people;
11 for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
12 "This will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger."
13 And suddenly there appeared with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying,
14 "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased."
15 When the angels had gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds began saying to one another, "Let us go straight to Bethlehem then, and see this thing that has happened which the Lord has made known to us."
16 So they came in a hurry and found their way to Mary and Joseph, and the baby as He lay in the manger.

Quote: Adoration of the Shepherds by Friar Juan Bautista Maíno (1569 – 1 April 1649), a Spanish painter of the Baroque period.
:End Quote.

That Artist almost got it right, except men have European style
Haircuts, And the two men with European Shirts, I am not buying
at all, an the Caucasian skinned Baby Jesus, means he did not know
the Baby Jesus was NAZARENE, and almost all Nazarenes were
medium skinned.

Matthew 2:7-12 (NASB)
7 Then Herod secretly called the magi and determined from them the exact time the star appeared.
8 And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, "Go and search carefully for the Child; and when you have found Him, report to me, so that I too may come and worship Him."
9 After hearing the king, they went their way; and the star, which they had seen in the east, went on before them until it came and stood over the place where the Child was.
10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced exceedingly with great joy. (That is right, IN A HOUSE, where JESUS was a 2 year old Child.)
11 After coming into the house they saw the Child with Mary His mother; and they fell to the ground and worshiped Him. Then, opening their treasures, they presented to Him gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
12 And having been warned by God in a dream not to return to Herod, the magi left for their own country by another way.

It is rare that of Artist Picture the Magi at the Manger, judging it by centuries of old Christmas Cards, without even a hint those old pictures could be WRONG. In case You do not know, a Manger is a feeding Troth for Cattle that you put hay in, such as this:

Mary would not have that in her House that Joseph Built for her.

It was hard to find a picture that shows what they really were like.

They were not Kings, but they were hired to conduct a new King's Coronation Ceremony. I seriously DOUBT that they Rode Camels, as they were in the business of Selling War Horses, to just about every Army in the mid-east, so they RODE War Horses. They never rode with just THREE of them, that comes from the Three Gifts, as they collect HOMAGE for the New King. They collected from every town or village in their REGION, at least 12 of them, plus a 100 man Army of the Fiercest Mounted Warriors to protect the Homage . Their Region was between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. They would Never ride across the Desert, the Northern route has water almost all the way, over to Lebanon. Then a straight shot down to Jerusalem. Then there is the TREASURE, and those little boxes, would have been an insult to the NEW KING. And with a hundred armed Warriors in the land protecting them from Thieves. There was enough Treasure, to support them between Construction Jobs in Egypt.

Now they rode into Jerusalem with those 100 of the fiercest warriors, WHILE ISRAEL'S ARMY WAS OFF FIGHTING A WAR, AND ALL KING HEROD HAD WAS HIS PALACE GUARD. NO WONDER WHY HEROD PANICKED AND GAVE SECRET ORDERS TO KILL ALL 2 YEARS OLD BOYS, AND BELOW, TO BE KILLED, BY HIS PALACE GUARDS.

After listening to sermon Dr. John MacArthur on the subject of the Magi, Decades ago. I decided to check out his information, via the Computer. That research, was a result of serious Bible Study and Serious History Study, to come to that same conclusion. His information, proved to True.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

VCO · Jan 1, 2023

The following Picture is from Northern Lebanon, I think. I want to show you all, how to Tell the EXACT purpose these RUINS had, and how to tell exactly what it was uses for:

I am 100% CERTAIN that was a ROMAIN LEGION HORSE BARN. Once the Legion built
the foundation, then the rest of the building would have been made of wood.
There would have been tethering rings in the wood on each side of that Center
strip with that trench in the middle. How do I know it was a ROMAN STYLE BARN?
They invented Slit Trench for the Horse to Urinate into. What are the Side buildings?
They are Barracks, for the Roman Cavalry. You see Caesar made a rule for each Cavalry,
Soldiers, that every personnel HAD TO SLEEP in the same building with their HORSE.
On the sides or one floor above. HE assigned 300 Cavalry soldier to every LEGION,
with 6000 foot soldiers. The Cavalry was Caesar's Rapid Deployment Force.

swatfrog · Jan 1, 2023

im not sure but has anyone bothered to look at the 3 temples that are being built in Abu Daubi under the Abrahamic Accord ? Have you heard of CHRISLAM yet? muslim , jews and catholics joined together on one piece of property ? Temples are to be finished by 23s end, they were supposed to be finished at end of 22. Foundations and structures are in place .

VCO · Jan 1, 2023

swatfrog said:

So what's that got to do with the Price of Apples ? ? ?

Don't you know that the Third Temple has to be Placed on the exact Spot as the First Temple, and the Second Temple. The only Person that CAN CHANGE the Location is CHRIST HIMSELF.

swatfrog · Jan 2, 2023

sorry did nt know that the forming of the one world church meant nothing....my bad

VCO · Jan 2, 2023

swatfrog said:

No, your not bad, only those that keep spreading the rumors after being informed that only Christ Himself can move it off the chosen spot. And He will do exactly that WHEN HE HIMSELF BUILDS 4th TEMPLE, prophesied in Ezekiel. Here is what some think it will look like when HE FINISHES the FOURTH TEMPLE:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ezekiel's+temple+images&docid=608020756635009220&mid=B77D733CBEBB2EB3698FB77D733CBEBB2EB3698F&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

oyster67 · Jan 2, 2023

VCO said:

I have not been following this thread, so I will just jump in and ask:

I have heard that the location of the Holy Place itself is actually well away from the Islamic structure. Is that a possibility?

VCO · Jan 3, 2023

oyster67 said:

DID YOU NOTICE THAT ON THIS FACT SHEET FROM JOSEPHUS the First Century Historian:

QUOTE:
But if we go the other way westward, it began at the same place; and extended through a place called Bethso, to the gate of the Essenes: and after that it went southward: having its bending above the fountain Siloam; where it also bends again towards the east at Solomon’s pool, and reaches as far as a certain place which they called Ophlas [what they called the OPHEL], where it was joined to the eastern cloister [covered walkway] of the temple. The second wall took its beginning from that gate which they called Gennath, which belonged to the first wall. It only encompassed the northern quarter of the city, and reached as far as the tower Antonia. - Josephus The Jewish War Book V chapter 4
:END QUOTE.

Josephus placed the TEMPLE on the OPHEL, not on top of the so-called Temple Mount.

Blue print is my comments.

Now the main reason that the JEWS do not trust the teachings of Josephus, is He Converted from a strict Jewish Family, and Recognized Christ as Messiah, literally from Ascetic Jew to Christianity, and Ascetic Jews, were known to never tell a lie, as it was SIN.

Quote: According to his own account, he was a precocious youth who by the age of 14 was consulted by high priests in matters of Jewish law. At age 16 he undertook a three-year sojourn in the wilderness with the hermit Bannus, a member of one of the Ascetic Jewish sects that flourished in Judaea around the time of Christ. Britannica Encyclopedia. End Quote:

So that was enough for Jews to say, he no longer can be trusted. But look at HIS Learning, at the age of 14 he was consulted by HIGH PRIESTS, on matters of Jewish Law. And once he converted to Christianity, they said he could no longer be trusted to tell the Truth, and was an Exaggerator.

Now look at what he said about the location of the temple. He is walking along the path from the fountain Siloam, and most likely the fountain was dead Center in the Pool of Siloam. He says the path bends towards the east, still going North. So lets look where it joins the Eastern Cloister (covered walkway) of the TEMPLE. Also there is a ton of proof that Roman Fortress Antonia, was on the highest hill, and the TEMPLE was always on the southeast corner of the OPHEL. That Purple line is a way to make that sidewalk visible, grey just blended in.

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