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montana123

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Show me one FreeMason whose God is YHWH?

George Washington, FreeMason, is a prime example.

Research FreeMason and discover that degrees 33-37 are designated for witchcraft, the most powerful, and Satan.

They use a lot of Biblical Symbols but take some real time and research them.

Those, the Freemasons, are the real Fathers of the United States of America.
I believe the forefathers were occultists and had the plan to bring the nations together to establish an occult world.

I believe America is really England and their sneaky way of getting their agenda out by America for the people would not trust England because they were going forth pushing for power so they would use America to get their agenda out in the world.

I believe the government ordered the rebellion because England wanted to change the world to an occult world instead of pushing Christianity which could of been the renaissance period that gave them a different outlook on reality.

Some people say we don’t try to suggest that nominalism was “under God”…it was aversion to the truth that already was known and taught, as I’d argue the Renaissance was.

Secularism was part of the renaissance because it exhibited itself in the development of humanism, when people began to show more interest in human cultural achievements and the possibilities of their fulfillment in this world.

In the renaissance, the church lost a lot of its power and there was more individualism.

But then the humanism gave way to more and more people going by the idea of humanism and not religious.

I believe England wanted to change the world to reflect the reality of humanism and stray away from religion and focus on it is about people more and they caused the rebellion in America so that they could use America to accomplish this purpose and to throw the world off guard that this is actually England that was trying to accomplish this.

And then when evolution started becoming popular they eventually started interpreting the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus is an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

Which is the new age movement today which further humanism to add to their belief that is is about human endeavors not religion.

And so America with religious diversity and ethnic diversity would try to influence all religions and ethnic groups to be on board with this humanism that is slowly becoming more and more about people.

And try to convince the religions that all paths lead to God and then to eventually persuade them over to the new age movement that interpret all religions that they are evolving to be spiritual and godlike and there is no personal God.

Which they say the universe has a conscience and Alice Bailey wrote a book called The Consciousness of the Atom which she is the biggest prophet of the new age movement.

They believe they are doing the will of nature by establishing the new age movement in the world.

Which they believe the next evolutionary step will happen in the United States in the 21st century and spread to the world.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will cause them to evolve and have peace until the nations come together as one to work for peace on Earth.

Which they are working on a one world government and one world religious system.

The new age movement had a hand in the 1960's counter culture movement to get them away from the 1950's attitude.

Now they are ready to put them back together for they are ripe for the picking.

Which they have to put all people equal and make them feel accepting of each other and being accepted.

They have to knock down the white people and boost the black people, minorities.

They have to knock down the men and boost the women.

They have to knock down the religious, mainly Christian, and boost the atheist.

They have to knock down the heterosexual and boost the homosexual.

Which they push homosexuality in society for population reduction and to undermine Christianity.

They say no fat shaming and portray them as beautiful.

If you want to defeat your enemy you side with them and then change them slowly.

Like playing a song on a piano and the people say it is truth.

And then you change one note and let it play for a while and the people say it is truth.

And then change one note and let is play for a while and the people say it is truth.

Until it is a whole new song and the people say it is truth.

I believe the forefathers were of the occult and did not care for religion which would explain their cruelty and money hungry ways for they were not really displaying Christian ways.

I will say this is a theory for I do not really know but the new age movement is real and they are influencing to convince people that they are still evolving and there is no personal God.

And they will influence more as time goes on as they believe the next evolutionary step will happen in the United States first in the 21st century and that next evolutionary step is the new age movement to become enlightened to evolve along with the New Age Christ.

But it makes sense from the Renaissance period to the forefathers embracing secular humanism and only going along with Christianity because that is the only way they could get the nation to start and they had to have a nation of Christians so they could slowly change Christianity in its nation and spread to the world.

And when evolution came out since they were secular humanists they wanted to believe they are still evolving adding more to their secular humanist ways.

Like I said I will say it is a theory but the new age movement will influence America more as time goes on because they believe that is the next evolutionary step in the evolving of the human race.
 
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pottersclay

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Are you kidding me?. You dont know who we brought over in boats in chains and auctioned off. The cruelty is well documented from the slavers in north Africa to Jim Crow. The entire ordeal is a sin against humanity and a abomination before God. How can a Christian nation treat any other human in such ways.
This nation like all nations is babylon and egypt.
Personally i knew you were going there, just wanted you to clarify.
I find it very offensive when one tries to derail a thread or post. This was never the topic but yet here we are....why?
I nor you could ever undo atrocities that history has recorded but thank GOD they can be forgiven.
I have studied history for many years and am very aware of the truths and myths of events. I also know people will believe what ever they want to. But this thread is not about that. If you care to start a thread on this topic I would be more than happy to share what I have learned.
 
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pottersclay

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I believe the forefathers were occultists and had the plan to bring the nations together to establish an occult world.

I believe America is really England and their sneaky way of getting their agenda out by America for the people would not trust England because they were going forth pushing for power so they would use America to get their agenda out in the world.

I believe the government ordered the rebellion because England wanted to change the world to an occult world instead of pushing Christianity which could of been the renaissance period that gave them a different outlook on reality.

Some people say we don’t try to suggest that nominalism was “under God”…it was aversion to the truth that already was known and taught, as I’d argue the Renaissance was.

Secularism was part of the renaissance because it exhibited itself in the development of humanism, when people began to show more interest in human cultural achievements and the possibilities of their fulfillment in this world.

In the renaissance, the church lost a lot of its power and there was more individualism.

But then the humanism gave way to more and more people going by the idea of humanism and not religious.

I believe England wanted to change the world to reflect the reality of humanism and stray away from religion and focus on it is about people more and they caused the rebellion in America so that they could use America to accomplish this purpose and to throw the world off guard that this is actually England that was trying to accomplish this.

And then when evolution started becoming popular they eventually started interpreting the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus is an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

Which is the new age movement today which further humanism to add to their belief that is is about human endeavors not religion.

And so America with religious diversity and ethnic diversity would try to influence all religions and ethnic groups to be on board with this humanism that is slowly becoming more and more about people.

And try to convince the religions that all paths lead to God and then to eventually persuade them over to the new age movement that interpret all religions that they are evolving to be spiritual and godlike and there is no personal God.

Which they say the universe has a conscience and Alice Bailey wrote a book called The Consciousness of the Atom which she is the biggest prophet of the new age movement.

They believe they are doing the will of nature by establishing the new age movement in the world.

Which they believe the next evolutionary step will happen in the United States in the 21st century and spread to the world.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will cause them to evolve and have peace until the nations come together as one to work for peace on Earth.

Which they are working on a one world government and one world religious system.

The new age movement had a hand in the 1960's counter culture movement to get them away from the 1950's attitude.

Now they are ready to put them back together for they are ripe for the picking.

Which they have to put all people equal and make them feel accepting of each other and being accepted.

They have to knock down the white people and boost the black people, minorities.

They have to knock down the men and boost the women.

They have to knock down the religious, mainly Christian, and boost the atheist.

They have to knock down the heterosexual and boost the homosexual.

Which they push homosexuality in society for population reduction and to undermine Christianity.

They say no fat shaming and portray them as beautiful.

If you want to defeat your enemy you side with them and then change them slowly.

Like playing a song on a piano and the people say it is truth.

And then you change one note and let it play for a while and the people say it is truth.

And then change one note and let is play for a while and the people say it is truth.

Until it is a whole new song and the people say it is truth.

I believe the forefathers were of the occult and did not care for religion which would explain their cruelty and money hungry ways for they were not really displaying Christian ways.

I will say this is a theory for I do not really know but the new age movement is real and they are influencing to convince people that they are still evolving and there is no personal God.

And they will influence more as time goes on as they believe the next evolutionary step will happen in the United States first in the 21st century and that next evolutionary step is the new age movement to become enlightened to evolve along with the New Age Christ.

But it makes sense from the Renaissance period to the forefathers embracing secular humanism and only going along with Christianity because that is the only way they could get the nation to start and they had to have a nation of Christians so they could slowly change Christianity in its nation and spread to the world.

And when evolution came out since they were secular humanists they wanted to believe they are still evolving adding more to their secular humanist ways.

Like I said I will say it is a theory but the new age movement will influence America more as time goes on because they believe that is the next evolutionary step in the evolving of the human race.
Well my friend you have no idea of the history of this nation. Thanks for adding to derailing this thread.

God said...all have sinned all are worthy of death
Those who participated as well as those who did nothing.....
He also said...there love will wax cold..is this you? We are called not to seek justice but righteousness....his righteousness.
 

montana123

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Well my friend you have no idea of the history of this nation. Thanks for adding to derailing this thread.

God said...all have sinned all are worthy of death
Those who participated as well as those who did nothing.....
He also said...there love will wax cold..is this you? We are called not to seek justice but righteousness....his righteousness.
That is why I said it is a theory for I do not know.

But it is strange that if they were Christians how did the nation develop in to allowing all religions to be practiced including Satanism and the the occult and the new age movement.

Was it the plan all along for a Christian nation would not allow anything to be practiced in their nation except Christianity.

God told Israel not to allow any religion to be practiced except for the covenant of God with Israel.

How did it develop in to the new age movement is the next evolutionary step in the evolutionary process and will start in America, and Americas teaches evolution.

It is strange they allowed all religions and ethnic groups to be in America as if they wanted to influence them all to lead them to an occult world.

And what is this peace they want for the world and the way they want it to operate and it is obvious they have the plan to have the way of America to influence the world as all nations want their ways to influence the world.

But how is it according to Christianity when they allow all religions to be practiced as if they are all truth.

And allow fleshy pleasures and sin and greediness to run rampant in society all the while saying they are a Christian nation.

It seems more like America is like Babylon anything goes multiculturism.

Were the forefathers on the level of Christianity and then it strayed later on to become the nation it is today.

I believe it was a plan all along but like I said it is a theory.

Did the forefather believe in religious tolerance back then or strict Christianity.

A government cannot promote all religions as being truth to be practiced in the nation and say it is freedom if they are Christian.

I believe America is an occult nation that allows Christianity.

It could be the forefathers were on the level and then it went astray.

That is why I said it was a theory.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Personally i knew you were going there, just wanted you to clarify.
I find it very offensive when one tries to derail a thread or post. This was never the topic but yet here we are....why?
I nor you could ever undo atrocities that history has recorded but thank GOD they can be forgiven.
I have studied history for many years and am very aware of the truths and myths of events. I also know people will believe what ever they want to. But this thread is not about that. If you care to start a thread on this topic I would be more than happy to share what I have learned.
It is the material, historical record against a statement that you made.
 
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pottersclay

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That is why I said it is a theory for I do not know.

But it is strange that if they were Christians how did the nation develop in to allowing all religions to be practiced including Satanism and the the occult and the new age movement.

Was it the plan all along for a Christian nation would not allow anything to be practiced in their nation except Christianity.

God told Israel not to allow any religion to be practiced except for the covenant of God with Israel.

How did it develop in to the new age movement is the next evolutionary step in the evolutionary process and will start in America, and Americas teaches evolution.

It is strange they allowed all religions and ethnic groups to be in America as if they wanted to influence them all to lead them to an occult world.

And what is this peace they want for the world and the way they want it to operate and it is obvious they have the plan to have the way of America to influence the world as all nations want their ways to influence the world.

But how is it according to Christianity when they allow all religions to be practiced as if they are all truth.

And allow fleshy pleasures and sin and greediness to run rampant in society all the while saying they are a Christian nation.

It seems more like America is like Babylon anything goes multiculturism.

Were the forefathers on the level of Christianity and then it strayed later on to become the nation it is today.

I believe it was a plan all along but like I said it is a theory.

Did the forefather believe in religious tolerance back then or strict Christianity.

A government cannot promote all religions as being truth to be practiced in the nation and say it is freedom if they are Christian.

I believe America is an occult nation that allows Christianity.

It could be the forefathers were on the level and then it went astray.

That is why I said it was a theory.
Im sorry i did not see theory in your post....sorry.
You raise many great questions here and I have some answers for you. I'm pressed for time right now and need to refresh my thoughts.
America does not promote religion but allows freedom to practice religion. Much of our important documents have old testament scripture text in them written by our founding fathers.
However, the interpretation of those documents have been debated for yrs.
Let me stop here.
 

Nehemiah6

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But it is strange that if they were Christians how did the nation develop in to allowing all religions to be practiced including Satanism and the the occult and the new age movement.
While this is somewhat off topic, it needs to be addressed. You have a very serious misunderstanding of American history. Some of the things you need to keep in mind are:

1. The Pilgrims and Puritans were both groups of Bible-believing Christians who wanted to worship biblically. The Pilgrims wanted to separate themselves from the Church of England while the Puritans wanted to reform it from within. When they arrived in America, the Pilgrims followed their convictions without interfering with others, but the Puritans wanted to have others conform to their beliefs.

2. Over time and because not all who came later were Christians, many unChristian practices came into effect.

3. The Founding Fathers had various beliefs and many were Freemasons, but they all had a respect for the Bible and a reverence for God. They were certainly not Satanists.

4. When George III the king of England tried to force the Colonists to obey British laws which were detrimental to the Colonists, it led to the American Revolution and the War of Independence.

5. The Declaration of Independence recognized God and was crafted to maintain liberty, justice and peace, including religious liberty.

6. The Constitution was crafted with the same ideas of liberty, justice, and peace, and the State would not be allowed to establish any religion. Many good amendments were also added to it. But the Constitution was also a document which depended on having those who were in government to uphold it, and ensure the welfare of all people.

7. In the meantime theological liberalism and political liberalism began to influence people in England and America. This would eventually undermine everything that America should have stood for.

8. Then came the rise of Communism, Nazism, and Fascism. There were many Americans who became Communists and began working for the Soviet Union. Communism should have been banned as an ideology and a political party but that never happened.

9. The goal of Communist USSR -- which saw America as its arch-enemy -- was to destroy America from within by hijacking all its institutions. and planting Communists in government. There is actually a document which lists in detail how Communists would destroy America. It has practically been fulfilled in every respect.

10. Many blacks also adopted Communism as their ideology and began working against the interests of the USA. Eventually Communist Barack Obama (under the influence of Communist Saul Alinsky) became president and was given two terms to destroy America from within. This included the destruction of free and fair elections and the rule of law.

11. Donald Trump realized that America was in serious trouble, and won the presidency based upon a sound and sensible platform and agenda. "Make America Great Again" was an excellent rallying cry, but then he sabotaged himself. He failed to thoroughly clean house and drain the Swamp because he surrounded himself with his own enemies. This is hard to believe but the facts speak for themselves. He also failed to focus on cleaning up the election "machinery" in every state, therefore his second election was stolen from right under him.

12. Communist Bernie Sanders was the leading "Democrat" in both elections after Obama, and both times he was bought off so that Hilary Clinton and Joseph Biden would present the face of the Democrats. But the Communist agenda of Sanders was adopted wholesale by Biden (who is actually a mere puppet). Obama, Rice, and others made sure that imposter Biden would destroy America totally and establish a totalitarian Communist regime.

13. Both the RINOs (Republicans in Name Only), the mainstream media, and big tech helped the Communists to gain power in the USA, and today it is in fact a banana republic. Free and fair elections will not ever be held in this Communist State since even the courts are supporting election fraud.

14. But the Biden administration has not simply stopped there. They have promoted and funded every evil ideology and cult, including LGBTQ, Satanism, abortion, drug abuse, human trafficking, etc, while opening up the southern border and handing it to the drug cartels. They have also trampled on the Constitution and the rule of law and subverted the Supreme Court and the whole justice system. So in effect a criminal syndicate (including the DOJ and FBI) is now controlling America.
 

ResidentAlien

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The title of the video says that Cahn's message is "to Joe Biden." This takes on an added dimension when you consider whether personal prophecy is even valid today. Jonathan Cahn denies he's a prophet but claims what he says is "prophetic." Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
 

JTB

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Give 10 examples of President Trump, mastering the ability of giving lip service to scripture while blatantly going against it.
1. Mammon worship
2. Self idolatry
3. Abandoning the sick
4. Abandoning the poor
5. Abandoning foreigners
6. Spreading lies
7. Spreading hypocrisy
8. Marital infidelity
9. Incestuous thoughts
10. Fornication with harlots and minors

But you don't see or accept any of these 'cause you've been deceived into thinking he's been sent by God, and that as long as he's anti-abortion that renders all these other sins acceptable/moot.

Oh and let's not forget no. 11 - not knowing which edge of the Bible is the top.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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1. Mammon worship
2. Self idolatry
3. Abandoning the sick
4. Abandoning the poor
5. Abandoning foreigners
6. Spreading lies
7. Spreading hypocrisy
8. Marital infidelity
9. Incestuous thoughts
10. Fornication with harlots and minors
1.Mammon worship. Name one president who isnt guilty here.
2. Self idolatry. Same as above
3. Abandoning the sick. Garbage
4. Abandoning the poor. Also garbage
5. Abandoning foreigners. Other countries need to tend to their own. Our meeds to tend to us.
6. Spreading lies. Name any politician who hasnt
7. Spreading hypocrisy. You mean pointing it out
8. Marital infidelity. While being president? This isnt true
9. Incestuous thoughts. This needs proof
10. Fornication with harlots and while being president?
minors. Needs proof.
My point is name one president who has been upstanding and forthright. There is no earthly nation of God.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The title of the video says that Cahn's message is "to Joe Biden." This takes on an added dimension when you consider whether personal prophecy is even valid today. Jonathan Cahn denies he's a prophet but claims what he says is "prophetic." Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
He isnt addressing Biden, He is grandstanding for his followers. He also claims God told him to write his books and cleared him to publish it, which would make his book equal to scripture. He needs to repent because he is a con man, false prophet and a twister of scripture.
 

JTB

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1.Mammon worship. Name one president who isnt guilty here.
2. Self idolatry. Same as above
3. Abandoning the sick. Garbage
4. Abandoning the poor. Also garbage
5. Abandoning foreigners. Other countries need to tend to their own. Our meeds to tend to us.
6. Spreading lies. Name any politician who hasnt
7. Spreading hypocrisy. You mean pointing it out
8. Marital infidelity. While being president? This isnt true
9. Incestuous thoughts. This needs proof
10. Fornication with harlots and while being president?
minors. Needs proof.
My point is name one president who has been upstanding and forthright. There is no earthly nation of God.
I never said the others weren't equally guilty of most of these and other things.

I'm just noting that because he is against abortion he seems to get a pass on the rest of it.

And from your responses I'd say you're not that in touch with the Bible either. 1, 2, 6 don't stop being sins just because others are also doing it. 3, 4, you are obviously ignoring what the trumplicans have done to the poor, sick, and workers in the name of lining rich people's pockets. 5 the Bible REPEATEDLY says to welcome foreigners and treat them well. 7 Seriously... tax cuts for the rich passed off as for the working man (this working man's taxes went up, as did most of my co-workers)? Can't vote on a supreme court nominee because there's only 9 months till election, then voting on a nominee when there's only 3 months left? (that was more a senators issue but falls clearly in line with what the whole cadre is doing). 8 - oh because it didn't happen then (that we know about) previous discretions are ok? 9 - I wanna date my daughter? 10 - Stormy Daniels ring a bell?

The democrats are a godless horde. Don't let that fool you into accepting the godlessness of the right, starting with 45.
 

Blade

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#54
1. The Pilgrims and Puritans were both groups of Bible-believing Christians who wanted to worship biblically. The Pilgrims wanted to separate themselves from the Church of England while the Puritans wanted to reform it from within. When they arrived in America, the Pilgrims followed their convictions without interfering with others, but the Puritans wanted to have others conform to their beliefs.

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To read what some of them said as they were coming to now America. What they wanted to do and start. It was so beautiful and 100% all about God. Before he was the 1st president

"Let my heart, therefore, gracious God, be so affected with the glory and majesty of Thine honor that I may not do my own works, but wait on Thee, and discharge those duties which Thou requirest of me."

"Direct my thoughts, words and work, wash away my sins in the immaculate blood of the Lamb, and purge my heart by Thy Holy Spirit ... daily frame me more and more in the likeness of Thy Son Jesus Christ."

Potts was a Quaker and a pacifist who opposed the war until he had a life-changing experience while riding through the woods one day during perhaps the bleakest period of the war. He said:
"I heard a plaintive sound as of a man at prayer. I tied my horse to a sapling and went quietly into the woods and to my astonishment I saw the great George Washington on his knees alone, with his sword on one side and his cocked hat on the other. He was at Prayer to the God of the Armies, beseeching to interpose with his Divine aid, as it was ye Crisis, and the cause of the country, of humanity and of the world. Such a prayer I never heard from the lips of man. I left him alone praying. I went home and told my wife I saw a sight and heard today what I never saw or heard before, and just related to her what I had seen and heard and observed. We never thought a man could be a soldier and a Christian, but if there is one in the world, it is Washington" (Hyatt, 1726: The Year that Defined America, 115-116).
 
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Locoponydirtman

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from your responses I'd say you're not that in touch with the Bible either. 1, 2, 6 don't stop being sins just because others are also doing it
I never said it wasnt sin.

4, you are obviously ignoring what the trumplicans have done to the poor, sick, and workers in the name of lining rich people's pockets.
Grade a horse manure. I have been working lower class all my life, and so it most everyone I know. I know who has made my life (and those around me) harder and who has made it better.

5 the Bible REPEATEDLY says to welcome foreigners and treat them well.
The Bible addresses treating foriegners well, not hords of people pouring into the country unchecked. You are dishonest about what the Bible says. The Bible also addresses Human trafficking and crime.
7 Seriously... tax cuts for the rich passed off as for the working man (this working man's taxes went up, as did most of my co-workers)?
I don t know what work you do or how much you make. You will have to show me the bill/ tax increase that he imposed for me to believe that one. Because my taxes didnt go up but my cost of living went way down. It coste way less to get to work each day, it cost me wayless to put food on the table, so I actually had some expendable income at the end of each week. Well thats all gone now and its back to the week to week living. Thanks to this feckless so called leader we have now, and his terrible policies.

Can't vote on a supreme court nominee because there's only 9 months till election, then voting on a nominee when there's only 3 months left? (that was more a senators issue but falls clearly in line with what the whole cadre is doing).
What rule says that? Of coarse you can. And the country is better off for it. The supreme court is why we no longer have institutionalized infanticide but thats only one of many rulings that have been for the better of America, as if that one isnt enough.

8 - oh because it didn't happen then (that we know about) previous discretions are ok?
Not saying he has repented, but if he has he has, and his sins are forgiven. As far as presidents go, well, those things are par for the course. Name one that isnt a scoundrel. So having your pants in a bunch over his sins and not the sins of the others is hypocritical.
Not that we shouldnt be critical of the moral failing of all candidates for public office. Most of the time, at least all of my life your only choice is the least debauched candidate. I could get into how broken our system is, but this isnt the thread for it. Sometimes a thing is so broken you throw it away and replace it with something else, but thats a discussion for another time and place.
 

Nehemiah6

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the Bible REPEATEDLY says to welcome foreigners and treat them well.
That is not even the issue, and is used as a red herring to deflect from the real issues.

What has been happening at the southern border of the USA and all through Western Europe and the UK is MIGRANT INVASION with a vengeance. And these same lawless people turn around and murder, rape, rob, burn, and destroy the lawful citizens. The statistics are all there.

Does the Bible say that a nation should welcome its invaders and destroyers with open arms? As a matter of fact, when you read the books of Joshua and Judges, God's command to His people was to utterly destroy the heathen. And because they failed to do so, they paid dearly. When Sennacherib came to invade Judah, God utterly destroyed him and his armies.

The Bible also teaches that God recognizes national boundaries and in fact has set them up. But Satan and his minions have recently destroyed all national boundaries so that everyone has become lawless, impoverished, disadvantaged, and reduced to slavery (not to mention the human trafficking and sex trafficking that is now rampant).
 
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Thank God we live in a country that would allow a Jonathan Cahn to speak openly about the doctrines of the Bible.
Perhaps Cahn does have monetary or prophet status motives. He does make many great doctrinal points.
He is taking risks too. And we including him are not perfect. None of us.

Would you rather have a Mr. Cahn teach your elementary kids world history or some pro-LGBT teacher ?


Apparently in the near future will come a time when we will be subject to great persecution for sharing our beliefs.
Let's not forget what happened to the prophets, disciples and common folks that spread the Gospel in the past and present.
Take a visit to Muslim countries and see what Christian persecution is all about.
History repeats itself many times over.

Consider leadership under the antichrist. His treatment toward Believers is clearly spelled out.
Compare Woodrow Wilson to Biden. Leadership has changed drastically. God judges nations. Beware.
“In Wilson’s view, America had a part to play as a divine instrument. To deny the United States an active role in the world was an attempt to deny God’s will.”

Rejoice for the time draws near.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Thank God we live in a country that would allow a Jonathan Cahn to speak openly
Fair enough. This is the only covenant any nation has with God, that they provide a secure place for Christians to thrive.

He does make many great doctrinal points
No he doesnt. Not even one.

Would you rather have a Mr. Cahn teach your elementary kids world history or some pro-LGBT teacher ?
One is just as bad as the other.
 
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Fair enough. This is the only covenant any nation has with God, that they provide a secure place for Christians to thrive.


No he doesnt. Not even one.


One is just as bad as the other.
Locoponydirtman name a few things cahn is in error about.