Is The Earth Flat Or Round?
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This article breaks it down quite well.
https://chefin.com.au/blog/these-6-christmas-traditions-are-actually-pagan-customs/
Jeremiah
10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”
https://chefin.com.au/blog/these-6-christmas-traditions-are-actually-pagan-customs/
Jeremiah
10 Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. 2 This is what the Lord says:
“Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the heavens,
though the nations are terrified by them.
3 For the practices of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
5 Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field,
their idols cannot speak;
they must be carried
because they cannot walk.
Do not fear them;
they can do no harm
nor can they do any good.”
Sorry about this, wrong thread. A mod can delete this.
I meant to put it in this thread. https://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/annual-christmas-is-pagan-thread.195235/page-4
I meant to put it in this thread. https://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/annual-christmas-is-pagan-thread.195235/page-4
Do you not believe that God is able to preserve His word?
Did He not say that He would?
The KJV was translated once - from original manuscripts - then edited a number of times for mostly spelling errors.
Yes - to interpret it properly requires that you know something about the 'grammar of the language' at the time it was written; however, you can learn that (God will help you) - and then, you are "good for life"...
Did He not say that He would?
The KJV was translated once - from original manuscripts - then edited a number of times for mostly spelling errors.
Yes - to interpret it properly requires that you know something about the 'grammar of the language' at the time it was written; however, you can learn that (God will help you) - and then, you are "good for life"...
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The KJV is as 'pure' as it gets. It is the most correct English translation available today.
(There are a few others which are predecessors.)
The original manuscripts were in Greek, Hebrew, and Chaldean.
There was no Latin involved - despite what some will tell you.
It has stood the test of time for over 400 years.
(There are a few others which are predecessors.)
The original manuscripts were in Greek, Hebrew, and Chaldean.
There was no Latin involved - despite what some will tell you.
It has stood the test of time for over 400 years.
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Well - okay - I stand corrected on this one particular point. My apologies to everyone.
We have every reason to believe that the manuscripts were not necessarily THE original manuscripts; however, we also have every reason to believe that God saw fit that they were very carefully copied so that error was not introduced into the new manuscript copies. (They were extraordinarily excruciatingly careful when they made copies back in those times.)
This is what I really meant. The point was that there were not multiple translations involved.
We have every reason to believe that the manuscripts were not necessarily THE original manuscripts; however, we also have every reason to believe that God saw fit that they were very carefully copied so that error was not introduced into the new manuscript copies. (They were extraordinarily excruciatingly careful when they made copies back in those times.)
This is what I really meant. The point was that there were not multiple translations involved.
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So here, we only read the KJV? No NIV or other modern translations?
So the KJV is God breathing directly onto the pages, God directing the transcribers, and the others are just fallible men with their faulty translations?
Sometimes I think the only way to get the original meaning is to study Hebrew and Greek.
So the KJV is God breathing directly onto the pages, God directing the transcribers, and the others are just fallible men with their faulty translations?
Sometimes I think the only way to get the original meaning is to study Hebrew and Greek.
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O.k., who is gonna take the torch for the globalist agenda?!?! Ball Earthers the floor is yours.
Flat Earthers are second, because there are about a dozen flat earth related threads on CC.
Concave Hollow Earth will be last, because nobody really cares about Cellular Cosmology.
I should be thankful, that I'm even allowed to post in this thread. lol
How long do they get to state their case, before they lose my default?
Flat Earthers are second, because there are about a dozen flat earth related threads on CC.
Concave Hollow Earth will be last, because nobody really cares about Cellular Cosmology.
I should be thankful, that I'm even allowed to post in this thread. lolHow long do they get to state their case, before they lose my default?
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Fixed it for you...
Given a sufficiently powerful telescope, it should, in FE fairyland, be able to see Iceland from the Northern part of Scotland. How much naval warfare would be different if that were possible. Ships would be visible hundreds of miles away by simple optics instead of hugely complex and expensive radar. Navigation would be easier and safer. You could see land from far further than is possible in reality. Mariners who got lost pre radar and radio days would have been able to find land with no trouble. And there's the rub. The curvature of the earth prevents anyone seeing more than a few kilometres. The curve of the earth is about 160 mm per kilometre. So the viewing distance depends on the height of the viewing point.
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The video has been edited to make Aldrin seem to deny that he went to the moon. That is a lie. You can find a video where he punched Bart Sibrel, who called him a liar. Aldrin was 72 at the time. Sibrel still maintains his idiotic conspiracy theory. Sibrel may be legally insane:
insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality............
insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality............
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Helpful for sure but not absolutely necessary by any means. The Bible is sort of like a hologram. The information is distributed throughout. You take away a chapter or a book.....and the meaning/image (the Savior Jesus), though less clear, remains.
Same goes for different translations. Though there are superior versions, even the worst carries the same essential message.
Same goes for different translations. Though there are superior versions, even the worst carries the same essential message.
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Incorrect. This assumes the atmosphere is totally transparent. It is not.
You keep saying the video is edited, but I showed you in the version that you yourself admitted was the original, that the video was not edited - the quotations from the little girl and Buzz Aldrin, where Buzz admitted it didn't happen, are accurate. So are you now claiming that you erred when you stated the video you posted was the original? I hold that you just cannot handle the uncomfortable truth, that Buzz, in a moment of weakness or honesty, or whatever you want to call it, admitted the truth about the Moon Landing Hoax.
You keep saying the video is edited, but I showed you in the version that you yourself admitted was the original, that the video was not edited - the quotations from the little girl and Buzz Aldrin, where Buzz admitted it didn't happen, are accurate. So are you now claiming that you erred when you stated the video you posted was the original? I hold that you just cannot handle the uncomfortable truth, that Buzz, in a moment of weakness or honesty, or whatever you want to call it, admitted the truth about the Moon Landing Hoax.
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As I understand Erasmus' view of creating the TR, he begun from a "corrupted" vision of improving the more
common form of Latin to a "higher" form that was used by the intelligentsia of the day.
"It is only fair that Paul should address the Romans in somewhat better Latin."
A quote, that to me, seems rather snobbish and un-Christ-like.
Also, Erasmus did indeed draw from additional sources, including commentary notes of others...
"My mind is so excited at the thought of emending Jerome’s text, with notes, that I seem to myself inspired by some god. I have already almost finished emending him by collating a large number of ancient manuscripts, and this I am doing at enormous personal expense."
(Ya' gotta wonder at his wording "...some god." LoL)
common form of Latin to a "higher" form that was used by the intelligentsia of the day.
"It is only fair that Paul should address the Romans in somewhat better Latin."
A quote, that to me, seems rather snobbish and un-Christ-like.
Also, Erasmus did indeed draw from additional sources, including commentary notes of others...
"My mind is so excited at the thought of emending Jerome’s text, with notes, that I seem to myself inspired by some god. I have already almost finished emending him by collating a large number of ancient manuscripts, and this I am doing at enormous personal expense."
(Ya' gotta wonder at his wording "...some god." LoL)
I think the issue is the Textus Receptus documents. Any "versions" using these, rather than the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, should be reasonably trustworthy, if the translation is accurate. But why the need to keep creating bible versions? The Word of God should not be a profit-making venture, and those who would make it into one should not be trusted.
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The earth mover's points.
Seems like the post is knocking flat earth, due to lack of evidence by the way of the sea.
Heliocentric believer has listed telescopes, naval war, radars, navigation, and distance to show flat earth incorrect, and a sun centered universe to be the winner. No points were given to conclude the Concave Hollow Earth is incorrect. Does this mean Cellular Cosmology is above question?
The earth mover's failure.
No scripture was used in Gideon's post to prove Heliocentric model right, or Flat Earth and Concave Hollow Earth wrong. Is this recognition that the globalist lack Biblical support?
Post stated, "curvature of earth is about 160mm per kilometer". This might be the first time that millimeters and kilometers were used to determine the earth's curvature. Let's break this down a little, so it's easier to imagine. 160mm equals 16cm, and 16cm equals 6.2 inches.
The American Standard for the earth's curvature is 8 inches per mile. 1km equals equals .62 miles, so for every km the earth has about 5 inches of curvature. How many millimeters in 5 inches? 127mm
I believe Gideon's estimation on curvature of the earth is about 20% off, which is about how much the Heliocentric Model just makes stuff up, when observation has completely pointed to the opposite of what globalist believe.
Next up.....
It's now time for the pizza makers to prove Flat Earth correct, and prove the other models in error.
The floor is yours Flat Earthers.
Give 5 reasons why you believe your view of the earth is correct, please include at least one scripture reference to support your view, and 5 reasons why you believe the other earth models are in error, please include at least one scripture reference to support why, the other models don't work, if possible.
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I didn't know that was the motivation for new translations. I thought it was to help people of today understand the message. Sometimes I think the only way to reach people today is to update the entire thing - it's hard for people in 2022 to imagine a world in which there were no internet, smart phones, and flying cars. People like my family members are like "why should I care about things that happened thousands of years ago? I've never ridden a camel, wandered through a desert for 40 years, or seen someone stoned to death". Yeah, now they just kill the suspected guilty party with an AK-47.
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