Bad translation...it should say that God so loved the world of the elect. We need a Calvinist to re-write the bible.
Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?
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Bad translation...it should say that God so loved the world of the elect. We need a Calvinist to re-write the bible.
Thats what it means, world of the elect.Bad translation...it should say that God so loved the world of the elect. We need a Calvinist to re-write the bible.
Eve in the garden. "You shall be as God". Before Eve acted, this notion of ability was
planted by satan. In her mind she actually believed she was able to be as God.
Is this a true statement?
Did satan state/imply Eve could be as God? Yes.
Did she believe she could be as God? Yes.
It's a true statement.
But I see your point though, you're stating Eve did actually become as God. Gen. 3:22 So satan was telling the truth in Gen. 3:5.
I get it now.
I‘ll start…
Romans12:2 And be not conformed to this world of the elect: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
You are taking away from what was said, by both Satan, and by God.Eve in the garden. "You shall be as God". Before Eve acted, this notion of ability was
planted by satan. In her mind she actually believed she was able to be as God.
Is this a true statement?
Did satan state/imply Eve could be as God? Yes.
Did she believe she could be as God? Yes.
It's a true statement.
But I see your point though, you're stating Eve did actually become as God. Gen. 3:22 So satan was telling the truth in Gen. 3:5.
I get it now.
What was said:
“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
NOT simply, you will be like God. Nobody said that.
Satan said, you will be like God, knowing good and evil.
God said, Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil.
Ergo, that was NOT Satan's lie.
On the other hand, unfortunately, Satan's lie is repeated to this very day.
Well, my spell checker clearly knows what its talking about now doesn't it.caveat
a warning or proviso of specific stipulations, conditions, or limitations.
And to think, I fixed that from its former typo.
I told you to stick with caviarWell, my spell checker clearly knows what its talking about now doesn't it.
No, I honestly see what you're saying. You're essentially saying satan was telling the truth when he told Eve she would be as God in verse 5 because God states later in verse 22 that they had become like us.
I called satan a liar because nobody can actually be as God and you're defending him. I totally get it, weird but I get it. This exchange kind of captures the entire essence of my short novel
You keep doing it though, saying they would be like God without specifying in what way as the text doesNo, I honestly see what you're saying. You're essentially saying satan was telling the truth when he told
Eve she would be as God in verse 5 because God states later in verse 22 that they had become like us.
I called satan a liar because nobody can actually be as God and you're defending him. I totally
get it, weird but I get it. This exchange kind of captures the entire essence of my short novel
I am not defending Satan. You don't get it at all. And you should stop misrepresenting the Word of God.
I had to find out why spell check messed up. It confused the noun with the acronym.Hindsight is 20/20. OK, maybe 20/4.0 .
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/CAVIAT
Different subject altogether.I‘ll start…
Romans12:2 And be not conformed to this world of the elect: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Its written just fine, God gives His own understanding. But world when used in a Salvation related passage means the elect, the Sheep, or the Church, or the saved. But it never means the lost
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No it does not mean the world of the elect. There is no world of the elect. Here is another passage.
And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
I John 2:2
Not only our sins,( Our being those of the believers), but also those of the whole world.
Calvin imposed that interpretation upon the text, but Calvin was also ok with using the state to kill those who disagreed with him. So I myself do not give the tiniest creedence to any of Calvin's theology.
John 15:19I‘ll start…
Romans12:2 And be not conformed to this world of the elect: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
If you belonged to the world of the elect, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world of the elect, but I have chosen you out of the world of the elect. That is why the world of the elect hates you.
Yes it does mean world of the elect, and so does 1 Jn 2:2