Baby Kidnapped by the Medical Court

[HealthAndHappiness]

Who has the authority over children, the parents, the state, or the corporations making big money from their products?

This question should be pondered. I understand that some Christians are troubled when they hear the biased newscasters say that the children of the Jehovah's Witnesses cult refused blood transfusions for their children. I don't agree with those False witnesses on any doctrines, however is it a lawyer, a judge and a corporation/ hospital's authority to exceed that of the parents?

Hillary Rodham Clinton became "famous" for winning a case that allowed a rapist go free during her lawyer days before her and bill were installed as presidents. She preached that the village has the authority over the children and should train them, not the parents as the Bible insists.

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Proverbs 22

Over the years many Christians have expressed their beliefs that the big corporations of the medical industries should exert their wills over that of the patients and families. There is a bias that whatever a nurse in scrubs or guy with a stethoscope says, is gospel truth and they are THE Authorities. I've met a large handful of humble servants, who worked in medical and health positions whome I respect. However, I've met way too many who harmed patients. To them be the judgement of Almighty God.

This is an important topic for all because we may face decisions or attacks upon the lives of our families. It has been occurring from the USA to China. The following is a report summarizing a New Zealand couple who have a baby that they wish to be operated on at the request of their doctor. The video is in the link.

NZ Gt Kidnapped Baby ....

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

More details about Baby Will

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Interview from yesterday


"Update: Cole Reeves and Samantha Savage, the parents of New Zealand’s baby Will who has been forced to undergo an emergency heart surgery with blood tainted by the Covid-19 jabs being used in the process, spoke out Friday morning following their son’s forced operation.
“They’ve done what they were going to do even though it was against our wishes,” Cole said. “We’re trusting God, that God’s greater than they are, which is exactly how it is.”
Will’s father did suggest the possibility that hospital workers may have clandestinely used unvaccinated blood after all.

During Thursday’s transmission of The Alex Jones Show, guest host Owen Shroyer talked with a former New Zealand television host named Liz Gunn.
Gunn is a lawyer helping a family fighting for their child’s right to undergo an emergency surgery without having blood contaminated with the Covid vaccine used in the process.
On Wednesday, Infowars covered the government’s decision to grant itself custody of baby Will, a four-month old baby needing an emergency heart surgey.
The child was taken from his parents because they demand their son be given blood that hasn’t been tainted by the experimental Covid-19 shots."

Parents outside of hospital

 

[TheNarrowPath]

I was just learning of this story this morning. Its troubling but it will slowly become the norm. Parental rights, parental consent will be a thing of the past.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I was just learning of this story this morning. Its troubling but it will slowly become the norm. Parental rights, parental consent will be a thing of the past.

There are cases in America of doctors reporting parents to Child Protective Services for not following orders. I'm sorry to see it happening in your fine country too. I was upset for this family. I posted this to bring awareness to Christians and to pray for those in this battle.

Medical tyranny is rapidly being forced upon the world. The family is not allowed to have uninfected blood reminds me of Bayer. You know, the company that's known for baby aspirin. They knowingly infected hemophiliacs, blood clotting disorder, with blood that had HIV and deadly hepatitis. They were caught, so they continued selling it to other countries.

 

[Moses_Young]

In my opinion, kidnapping is an act of war, and the death penalty is justified in such cases.

 

[Eli1]

Sounds pretty bad out there.

Interestingly I never see this out there during my interaction with the world I am in.

 

[JohnDB]

Sounds pretty bad out there.

Interestingly I never see this out there during my interaction with the world I am in.

What it is....

Two sides of an argument that have both gone so far into extremes that neither side is logical or reasonable anymore. Both are ridiculous and poisonous.

The biological parents are so caught up in their fight that they are more than willing sacrifice their own child to try to win than be loving.

Meanwhile the other side is "trying to save the child" by doing every medical treatment possible and taking the child away to be educated and raised by the state into the wonders of transgenderism and every psychotropic drug imaginable.

The best to win is by not arguing to start with.

 

[Eli1]

What it is....

Two sides of an argument that have both gone so far into extremes that neither side is logical or reasonable anymore. Both are ridiculous and poisonous.

The biological parents are so caught up in their fight that they are more than willing sacrifice their own child to try to win than be loving.

Meanwhile the other side is "trying to save the child" by doing every medical treatment possible and taking the child away to be educated and raised by the state into the wonders of transgenderism and every psychotropic drug imaginable.

The best to win is by not arguing to start with.

I agree with you 100%.
As far as “arguing” this is more fun for me at this point.
Kinda like watching the Season 10 of the Flat Earth thread.

 

[Moses_Young]

I agree with you 100%.
As far as “arguing” this is more fun for me at this point.
Kinda like watching the Season 10 of the Flat Earth thread.

The Earth is still going to be flat, irrespective of whether you deny it in threads like this one!

 

[Eli1]

The Earth is still going to be flat, irrespective of whether you deny it in threads like this one!

I love your dedication, enthusiasm and commitment.
This makes it even more fun.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I Timothy 1:10
"Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;"

Exodus 21:16
"And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death."

Deuteronomy 24:7
"If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you."

In my opinion, kidnapping is an act of war, and the death penalty is justified in such cases.

This is a capital crime against the child and parents. State laws here started out based on the Bible in large part. I think NZ is a crown colony, which means they looked to the Magna Carta, which also had Biblical influence. I don't know what is on the books there. Here in the states capital offenses committed by those in the legal system are usually ignored and they are prosecuted under two big volumes of cases won under Title 18 & Title 25.
It sounds like the NZ judge works for the hospital. What those police, the judge and the hospital are doing is kidnapping and killing the baby. That baby may not die right away, but that is a death sentence nevertheless and will expose that family to the same infection with a cloud of worry for the rest of their lives.

I prayed a serious imprecatory prayer when I heard this.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

What it is....

Two sides of an argument that have both gone so far into extremes that neither side is logical or reasonable anymore. Both are ridiculous and poisonous.

The biological parents are so caught up in their fight that they are more than willing sacrifice their own child to try to win than be loving.

Meanwhile the other side is "trying to save the child" by doing every medical treatment possible and taking the child away to be educated and raised by the state into the wonders of transgenderism and every psychotropic drug imaginable.

The best to win is by not arguing to start with.

I don't think I understand your first statement about the parents.

 

[presidente]

There are cases in America of doctors reporting parents to Child Protective Services for not following orders. I'm sorry to see it happening in your fine country too. I was upset for this family. I posted this to bring awareness to Christians and to pray for those in this battle.

Medical tyranny is rapidly being forced upon the world. The family is not allowed to have uninfected blood reminds me of Bayer. You know, the company that's known for baby aspirin. They knowingly infected hemophiliacs, blood clotting disorder, with blood that had HIV and deadly hepatitis. They were caught, so they continued selling it to other countries.

I learned in my high school history class that the Bayer company invented heroine

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I learned in my high school history class that the Bayer company invented heroine

Most people would dismiss that fact as a "conspiracy theory" because they trust pharmaceutical companies more than they trust the Lord. They don't want to hear anything negative about their idols. You must've been a reader to learn that since it wasn't common knowledge. Did you like to read more than the required boring text books?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Detailed Interview with the Father

 

[Dude653]

I learned in my high school history class that the Bayer company invented heroine

Just googled it. It says they started producing it on a commercial scale, not that they invented it. I'm pretty sure heroin has been around for a few thousand years

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Has anyone heard any new news on baby Will posted today or yesterday?

 

[TheNarrowPath]

Has anyone heard any new news on baby Will posted today or yesterday?

Not really, just that his lawyer was in custody for another matter. Sometimes it would be good to air what is happening in court so we can see what is happening behind closed doors instead of all the secrecy.

 

[persistent]

Just googled it. It says they started producing it on a commercial scale, not that they invented it. I'm pretty sure heroin has been around for a few thousand years

Opium has been around, but heroin is a recent compound derivative. I thought Merck was involved but Bayer is likely. Almost sure on this and cocaine also from the same places and cocaine was being used to 'detox' heroin addicts. So, I read somewhere.