LGBT MOVEMENT CONTINUES TO INFILTRATE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES

[HealthAndHappiness]

The United Methodist Church is abandoning Scriptural teachings on marriage and homosexuality and incorporating political LGBT correctness instead.

439 Texas churches split from United Methodist Church as slow-motion schism continues: 439 Texas churches split from United Methodist Church as slow-motion schism continues (msn.com)

And the Methodists aren't the only Denominations falling to the LGBT agenda:

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America allows same-sex couples to get married, but leaves it up to individual ministers of congregations to decide, according to a 2009 resolution. “There is nothing that prescribes who a congregation pastor can marry or not marry, so long as it is consistent with state law,” ELCA Secretary David Swartling said in 2012.

The Episcopal Church established a rite of blessing for same-sex couples in 2012 and prohibited discrimination against transgender people. It has welcomed gay people since 1976, when its General Convention decided that “homosexual persons are children of God who have a full and equal claim with all other persons upon the love, acceptance, and pastoral concern and care of the Church.” Technically it has no official policy sanctioning same-sex marriage, but it will take up the issue in June.

The United Church of Christ has allowed same-sex couples to get married since 2005. At the 25th General Synod of the United Church of Christ in Atlanta, it “affirm[ed] equal marriage rights for couples regardless of gender and declares that the government should not interfere with couples regardless of gender who choose to marry and share fully and equally in the rights, responsibilities and commitment of legally recognized marriage.” It was the first major Protestant denomination to do so.

Here's a list, albeit incomplete, of church denominations who financially and philosophically support those that God calls an abomination. This is from a homo website.

Gay Affirming churches

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

That would be about right. The LGBTQ Movement is a demonic drive to pervert sex and make all (or any many as possible) into confused sexual beings. The fact that the political and religious "establishments" are promoting it shows that it is no longer a fringe movement but a deliberate attempt to destroy very young children. The entertainment industry is a part of this evil.

On the topic.....

Excerpt from Mark Dice's book

 

[kaylagrl]

So Kayla this is about an openly gay person, an addict, a suicidal person, a mother who aborted a baby, and many other sinners in different walks of life, coming to your church searching for God because they are hopeless.
‘’And this is where you need to accept them.
‘This is not about you becoming like them.

No, this is where the truth is preached telling them they are are lost in bondage to sin. This is not where they are accepted in their sin.

 

[Eli1]

No, this is where the truth is preached telling them they are are lost in bondage to sin. This is not where they are accepted in their sin.

Oh I see.
So if someone comes to you for help and they are desperate and hopeless, you want to give them a lecture first?
Doesn’t this contradict what you said earlier about Jesus : “Go and sin no more”?

 

[JohnDB]

My take?

Here's some questions:

How many times does a person have to lie before they are a liar?

How often does someone steal small things (pencil or pen or gumdrops) before they are labeled a thief?

How many times do they look at a woman with lust before they are an adulterer?

But in each of these instances a person repents and does not do them again. These people are not proud of their sins and are ashamed of them. If people were forced to wear a sign with the sins they commit it would be a very judgemental policy.

Now in the instance of LGBT these people are proud of their sin...they do not want to repent and turn away from them. They embrace the sin and wear their moniker proudly as if it is wonderful. Then there's the issue of moral turpitude...meaning that they wish to enlist others into sinning with them. And approve of others doing that as well.

Encouraging sin? Approving of sin? Being happy for others when they sin?

So how can people have a dual identity in sin and God? (They cant)

You can have God or you can have sin...make a choice. These things are mutually exclusive.

 

[kaylagrl]

Jesus truly is merciful in many respects... but even to the woman caught in adultery, He told her to go and sin no more. He was not tolerant.

Yes, that was my point, He said go and sin no more.

 

[kaylagrl]

Oh I see.
So if someone comes to you for help and they are desperate and hopeless, you want to give them a lecture first?
Doesn’t this contradict what you said earlier about Jesus : “Go and sin no more”?

Our job is to bring them to church, the pastors job is to preach the truth. Jesus pointed out sin where he saw it, you will never see a time where Jesus condoned, tolerated or comforted people in their sin. He did not accept sinners, He showed them that He was the living water, and that they were lost in sin without him.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

The arguement in thks thread is absurd. No one is talking about refusing the gospel to anyone. That is not what is happening in the methodist church nor is it what is happening in the elca. These are not God seekers look for deliverance from sin. They are heathens seeking to destroy the church.

 

[Eli1]

Our job is to bring them to church, the pastors job is to preach the truth. Jesus pointed out sin where he saw it, you will never see a time where Jesus condoned, tolerated or comforted people in their sin. He did not accept sinners, He showed them that He was the living water, and that they were lost in sin without him.

Exactly Kayla!
Our job is to bring them to the church and tell them the truth, NOT reject them.
This is the point.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What does the word of God have to say about homosexuality and same sex marriage? Lev 20:13, Rom 1:26-27. Are the churches listening to God or to the political correctness of men?

airs an obvious one to look at homosexuality and trans ect but some churches seems to be approving of all manner of sin openly these days. Liars will have the same result as a homosexual is what I mean

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬


I personally have noticed over several decades the message being watered down to try to make it “ more people friendly “ they are removing the need for sinners to repent and let the gospel change them

 

[kaylagrl]

Exactly Kayla!
Our job is to bring them to the church and tell them the truth, NOT reject them.
This is the point.

For further reference, I always come at a question from a ministry POV. That's my wheelhouse. I've printed this song before and I think this sums up how I feel. It's called The Light of Jesus to the World and I cry every time I hear it, probably because of my background. See if you feel the same as I do.

Who's gonna take the shield of faith out into the ghettos and witness to the street gangs of the night?
Who's gonna be the bold one to tell the pimps and the prostitutes the affection that they crave is found in Christ?
Who'll take the breastplate of righteousness into this country's schools and preach holiness to every boy and girl?
Well, it's you and it's me who'll witness for the Savior, and be the light of Jesus to the world.

Tell me who'll walk strong and tall and gird their loins with truth and stand and say "abortion is a sin"?
Who will confront the politicians with all of their deception and say in heaven, God won't let liars in?
Who'll take the helmet of salvation out into Wall Street and teach wealth is more than cars, diamonds, and pearls?
Well, it's you and it's me who'll take the cross of Calvary and be the light of Jesus to the world

Because it's you and it's me, we are the world's examples, our government won't teach us how to pray. Tell me when was the last time you witnessed to your neighbor and told him that Jesus is the way?

Because they're dying out in Vegas, they think gambling's the answer
In Hollywood, they're lost in lust for fame
The homosexual in San Francisco's trapped in vile bondage, and in Miami, drugs still play their hellish game
Someone has to walk this gospel of peace throughout our nations. Our TV game shows won't clear out our jails
Because it's you and it's me who'll bear the lamp of God and be the light of Jesus to the world. I said it's you and it's me, we're still called his disciples, who'll be the bring the light of Jesus to the world?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Exactly Kayla!
Our job is to bring them to the church and tell them the truth, NOT reject them.
This is the point.

I think the point of the op was that the churches are accepting it including the pastors and teachers is the thing no one’s willing to say the truth about it

No one should reject anyone gay or straight but we can’t pretend that it’s neither here nor there and of the pastor is accepting it and not telling the truth it’s not a good place to bring them it’s going to re assure them it’s ok

comsoder how Paul dealt with the open sexually Immoral Man in the cori this s church and how he treated th one who approved of that man and what he had done that’s a good reference for this subject

“It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, to deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: …But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭5:1-9, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

sin does matter in the church it’s a very important thing to deal with even if it means you have to go through the process ( as church leadership ) to remove someone who’s influencing the others with open sin like that such as a gay couple holding hands you can’t allow that in a church it’s utterly offensive to God

 

[Locoponydirtman]

I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”
I corinthians chapter 5.

 

[arthurfleminger]

Just as the gay people, with their quest for gay marriage and homosexual lifestyle, all of us Christians are sinners. No doubt about that.

But Christians know that they should repent of their sins. The problem is that the LGBT community is infiltrating Christian Churches, not for the purpose of repenting of their sins. Instead, they refuse to recognize their sin. And, worse yet, they want their sins blessed in 'Sacred Rites of Homosexual Marriage' in God's Churches.

That's the problem. God has pronounced active homosexuality as an abomination. Jesus has said that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

The LGBT community wants Christian Churches to refute God and His word and they want the Churches to toe the line in all aspects of the LGBT agenda, forget what God says. They want to bring in their 'Abomination' of sins and have the Church and the congregation offer them up to God in Sacred Rites. A slap in the fact to God in His Own House, the Church.

And, make no mistake, they want to pass on their LGBT agenda to the youth/children of the Church, to win them over for the future of their movement. You win over the children and you win the battle/war.

The LGBT movement is using the Christian Churches and their congregations as a political platform and not a religious one. They are seeking to destroy the Christian teachings of the Churches, as these teachings accuse them of abominable sin and are their worst enemy.

And you know what????????? The LGBT movement has made tremendous gains over the last 5 years in moving Christian Churches from God and Scripture, to their political/sexual agenda.

The LGBT agenda is directly opposed to God's ways and to Christ's Church. Christians have to choose which they want. And many are choosing the lGBT agenda over God.

 

[Eli1]

Politics should not be confused with The Truth.
This is why it’s not edifying wrapping politics with the word of God.

This is done by all parties.

When a priest blesses Putin‘s war, it means that he’s not serving God, he’s serving man and is a politician.
When a priest changes the gospel to make it more gay-friendly, he’s not serving God and is a politician.
When a priest tells you to vote Republican, he’s not serving God and is a politician.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Our job is to bring them to church, the pastors job is to preach the truth. Jesus pointed out sin where he saw it, you will never see a time where Jesus condoned, tolerated or comforted people in their sin. He did not accept sinners, He showed them that He was the living water, and that they were lost in sin without him.

amen well Put he did accept sinners up front , and then he called them close and to trust him and then he began teaching them “ if you keep sinning you’ll die “ “ if you repent and accept
Me and learn from me you’ll live “

unless we are sinless we can’t really cast any stones at anyone else a lair is no different from a homosexual , or thief , adulterer , fornicator , false witness , molester , greedy person ect we all have our issues but we wouldn’t set up a gambling table for instance in a church it’s going to corrupt people if we do what’s in the open among a congregation is very important To that group of folks

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Just as the gay people, with their quest for gay marriage and homosexual lifestyle, all of us Christians are sinners. No doubt about that.

But Christians know that they should repent of their sins. The problem is that the LGBT community is infiltrating Christian Churches, not for the purpose of repenting of their sins. Instead, they refuse to recognize their sin. And, worse yet, they want their sins blessed in 'Sacred Rites of Homosexual Marriage' in God's Churches.

That's the problem. God has pronounced active homosexuality as an abomination. Jesus has said that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

The LGBT community wants Christian Churches to refute God and His word and they want the Churches to toe the line in all aspects of the LGBT agenda, forget what God says. They want to bring in their 'Abomination' of sins and have the Church and the congregation offer them up to God in Sacred Rites. A slap in the fact to God in His Own House, the Church.

And, make no mistake, they want to pass on their LGBT agenda to the youth/children of the Church, to win them over for the future of their movement. You win over the children and you win the battle/war.

The LGBT movement is using the Christian Churches and their congregations as a political platform and not a religious one. They are seeking to destroy the Christian teachings of the Churches, as these teachings accuse them of abominable sin and are their worst enemy.

And you know what????????? The LGBT movement has made tremendous gains over the last 5 years in moving Christian Churches from God and Scripture, to their political/sexual agenda.

The LGBT agenda is directly opposed to God's ways and to Christ's Church. Christians have to choose which they want. And many are choosing the lGBT agenda over God.

yeah good point , they sure are pushing hard to make everyone else agree with them and make it hate speech of you don’t pretty aggressive group that lgbt……I didn’t consider how thoer message is “ we won’t repent because we’re right “

I’m troubled by the push in America for everyone to conform to the popular political correct ideations but it’s always been that way “progressive “ politics are progressing away from God

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”
I corinthians chapter 5.

Yep within a church congregation what’s in the open is very important and the leadership Of that group has a process to deal With it by establishment of the two or three qualified witnesses and attempts to correct the behavior

at he imperfect congregation isn’t meant to do the excommunicating though sinners stoning and tossing out sinners is a different situation

 

[HeIsHere]

Exactly Kayla!
Our job is to bring them to the church and tell them the truth, NOT reject them.
This is the point.

And once they are told the truth do you think they will stay?

Do you think if they suppress the truth and promote their "ways" should the church allow them to stay?

 

[hornetguy]

So how do you know you’re right and they’re wrong?

He also, as far as is recorded, never condoned what they did. He always loved them, but told them to quit sinning.... what do you think Jesus would have said if the woman that had been married 5 times and was now living with a man that wasn't her husband told him, "thanks for the visit, but I'm going to continue living the way I want".... ?