Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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tourist

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Magellan and others’ East/West circumnavigations of Earth are often quoted as proof of the ball model. In actual fact, however, sailing or flying at rights angles to the North pole and eventually returning to one’s original location is no more difficult or mysterious than doing so on a globe. Just as an architect’s compass can place its center-point on a flat piece of paper and trace a circle either way around the “pole,” so can a ship or plane circumnavigate a flat-Earth.

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That''s a circular route and not a straight route.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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That''s a circular route and not a straight route.
You know it. Flat zealots are adamant that Earth is a stationary flat disc and we are just too dumb and deceived to understand. :geek:
But ask them to photograph the edge of this discworld & suddenly they are unable to remember what a straight line is.


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Moses_Young

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Gravity seems to effectively act in every direction whenever matter and mass is present. It will act upwards for you if you find a massive object and put it on your head...

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That's the theory. In practice, the only evidence offered is the heliocentric theory, which is circular reasoning, as that is the very theory in question. When a Flat Earther claims "gravity does not exist", this is what he is talking about. Not that things go down, but that no reliable (repeatable) scientific evidence has ever been shown, of gravity acting in any other direction than downward.
 

Webers.Home

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In real life, folks in the northern latitudes see stars that folks in the southern
latitudes cannot see; and vice versa.

For example, Canadians can see the little bear Ursa Minor; but cannot see
Crux the southern cross, while Australians can see the southern cross but
not the little bear.

Now, the curious thing is: the northern latitudes are located in the very
center of a circular flat Earth map. Well; it seems to me, that if the Earth is
flat and circular, then everyone, everywhere should be able to look towards
the center and see the little bear.
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Webers.Home

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When we were kids, my siblings and I used to enjoy holding our arms
outside the windows of dad's car and feel the air pushing against our hands
when the car was underway.

Well; getting back the Sun from post No.2256: we're told it moves thru the
atmosphere at the same altitude as clouds, so I think it's reasonable to
expect the Sun would be experiencing some wind resistance too.

So then, why, after thousands and thousands of years, hasn't wind
resistance gradually slowed the Sun's motion thru the sky just as wind
resistance slows down aircraft when they lose power? And wouldn't wind
resistance affect the Moon's motion too if it were moving thru the
atmosphere?
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RaceRunner

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Since the North Pole and Antarctica are covered in ice and guarded “no-fly” zones, no ships or planes have ever been known to circumnavigate the Earth in North/South directions. The only kind of circumnavigation which could not happen on a flat-Earth is North/Southbound, which is likely the very reason for the heavily-enforced flight restrictions. The fact that there has yet to be a single verified North/South circumnavigation of Earth serves as standing proof the world is not a ball.

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RaceRunner

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The Sun brings noon to every time-zone as it passes directly over-head every 15 degree demarcation point, 24 times per day in its circular path over and around the Earth. If time-zones were instead caused by the uniform spinning of the ball-Earth around the Sun, every 6 months as Earth found itself on the opposite side of the Sun, clocks all over Earth would have to flip 12 hours, day would be night and night would be day.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Contrary to Fact-free flat earth spam,
James Cook explored the vast ocean and did much more than circumnavigate Antarctica.

Polar circumnavigation is complete navigation around Earth through both the North Pole and the South Pole.
Several parties have successfully done it, and it is only possible if Earth is a sphere.

November 14-17, 1965, Capt. Fred Lester Austin, Jr. and Harrison Finch took off from Honolulu, the United States,
to circumnavigate the Earth through both the poles.
Route: Honolulu, United States – North Pole – London, England – Lisbon, Portugal – Buenos Aires, Argentina – South Pole – Christchurch, New Zealand – Honolulu, United States.

In 1977, PanAm Flight 50 circumnavigated the Earth through the North and South Pole to celebrate PanAm’s 50th anniversary.
Route: San Francisco, United States – North Pole – London, England – Cape Town, South Africa – South Pole – Auckland, New Zealand – San Francisco, United States.

In 1979, Sir Ranulph Fiennes and Charles R. Burton set out from Greenwich, England, to the South Pole, and then headed north to the North Pole and back to Greenwich. The Guinness Book of World Records records this journey as the first surface polar circumnavigation.
Route: Greenwich, England – Cape Town, South Africa – South Pole – Auckland, New Zealand – Sydney, Australia – Los Angeles, United States – Vancouver, Canada – Yukon River, Canada – North Pole – Greenwich, UK.

In 1988-1989, Dick Smith circumnavigated the globe through both poles using a Twin Otter plane.


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On 7 February 2017, at 22:50 UT, Mike Horn completed the longest ever solo, unsupported north-to-south traverse of Antarctica from the Princess Astrid Coast (lat -70.1015 lon 9.8249) to the Dumont D'urville Station (lat -66.6833 lon 139.9167) via the South Pole. He arrived at the pole on 9 January 2017. A total distance of 5100 km was covered by utilising kites and skis in 57 days.
 

RaceRunner

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The idea that people are standing, ships are sailing and planes are flying upside down on certain parts of Earth while others tilted at 90 degrees and all other impossible angles is complete absurdity. The idea that a man digging a hole straight down could eventually reach sky on the other side is ludicrous. Common sense tells every free-thinking person correctly that there truly is an “up” and “down” in nature, unlike the “everything is relative” rhetoric of the Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm.
 

RaceRunner

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Quoting, “On the False Wisdom of the Philosophers” by Lacantius, “A sphere where people on the other side live with their feet above their heads, where rain, snow and hail fall upwards, where trees and crops grow upside-down and the sky is lower than the ground? The ancient wonder of the hanging gardens of Babylon dwindle into nothing in comparison to the fields, seas, towns and mountains that pagan philosophers believe to be hanging from the earth without support!”
 

Webers.Home

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Gravity is a very curious force of nature. It pulls on objects in accord with
their mass, e.g. it tugs harder on refrigerators than it does a loaf of bread.
What's curious is that although its tug on the refrigerator is stronger, it
won't move the fridge any faster than the bread, viz: discounting air
resistance, they will both fall at the same rate of speed

To prove it; David Scott, commander of Apollo 15, dropped a hammer and a
feather on the Moon and observed them hitting the ground at the same
time; on live TV.

Lesson To Be Learned: Intuition isn't science. For example: Flatters refuse to
believe folks on the other side of the world appear to be hanging upside
down because their intuition says it's impossible. But real science doesn't
trust so-called common sense, i.e. feelings are not facts.
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RaceRunner

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Gravity is a very curious force of nature. It pulls on objects in accord with
their mass, e.g. it tugs harder on refrigerators than it does a loaf of bread.
What's curious is that although its tug on the refrigerator is stronger, it
won't move the fridge any faster than the bread, viz: discounting air
resistance, they will both fall at the same rate of speed


To prove it; David Scott, commander of Apollo 15, dropped a hammer and a
feather on the Moon and observed them hitting the ground at the same
time; on live TV.


Lesson To Be Learned: Intuition isn't science. For example: Flatters refuse to
believe folks on the other side of the world appear to be hanging upside
down because their intuition says it's impossible. But real science doesn't
trust so-called common sense, i.e. feelings are not facts.
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The existing laws of density and buoyancy perfectly explained the physics of falling objects long before knighted Freemason “Sir” Isaac Newton bestowed his theory of “gravity” upon the world. It is a fact that objects placed in denser mediums rise up while objects placed in less dense mediums sink down. To fit with the heliocentric model which has no up or down, Newton instead claimed objects are attracted to large masses and fall towards the center. Not a single experiment in history, however, has shown an object massive enough to, by virtue of its mass alone, cause other smaller masses to be attracted to it as Newton claims “gravity” does with Earth, the Sun, Moon, Stars and Planets.

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GaryA

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A FIFA-regulated ball is usually 26 to 27 inches in diameter.
soccer ball ?

diameter ? (rather than circumference)

You've got to be kidding!

I have never before in my life even heard of such a thing...
 

oyster67

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Well - if you will seriously focus your attention on this video I have posted multiple times in this thread already and really listen to what is being said - and think about how it pertains to reality - you just might could possibly achieve an epiphany moment...

You were right about the ep. moment Gary! :)(y) I found the video fascinating and did learn much about the difference between the Arctic and the Antarctic. The great test would be to try to fly straight down out of Argentina and see if we ended up in Australia, or in outer space. I can see why maritime sailors and scientist of the old days would have been convinced. I now understand what is meant by the great ice wall that encircled the Earth. Think of The Arctic as being the center and Antarctica as being the edge. Antarctica was not a continent, but rather the great "edge-ring". (Just watch the viddy) ;)

I cannot personally prove you wrong because I do not have access to experimental tools, equipment, and facilities to carry out my own tests. We have been lied to by the powers-that-be any times before. If the Bible said it, I would believe it...

Romans 3:4
“God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.”

I like your boldness and audacity. Not every man is brave enough to go against the flow and endure mockery.
Yu'r a kule dude, Gary. :cool:(y)
 

oyster67

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Since the North Pole and Antarctica are covered in ice and guarded “no-fly” zones, no ships or planes have ever been known to circumnavigate the Earth in North/South directions. The only kind of circumnavigation which could not happen on a flat-Earth is North/Southbound, which is likely the very reason for the heavily-enforced flight restrictions. The fact that there has yet to be a single verified North/South circumnavigation of Earth serves as standing proof the world is not a ball.

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Is it true that no one has ever flown straight out the tip of Argentina (South America) in an effort to reach Australia? :eek:
 

oyster67

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Outer space, the Sun, the Moon, the Planets, and the Stars circle above. Beyond and below lurks the 5th dimension where the realms of darkness reside.