Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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RaceRunner

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The lighthouse steeple of St. Botolph’s Parish Church in Boston is 290 feet tall and visible from over 40 miles away, where it should be hidden a full 800 feet below the horizon!
 

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The lighthouse steeple of St. Botolph’s Parish Church in Boston is 290 feet tall and visible from over 40 miles away, where it should be hidden a full 800 feet below the horizon!
There are 8 inches of curvature per mile. So, at 40 miles that would be only 320 inches or 26.7 feat. If the steeple was viewed at sea level 263.3 ft. should be visible from 40 miles away, providing that there are no buildings or obstacles taller than that. Apparently, your math is a little off in your calculation of the curvature of the earth.
 

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The Isle of Wight lighthouse in England is 180 feet high and can be seen up to 42 miles away, a distance at which modern astronomers say the light should fall 996 feet below line of sight.
 

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The Cape L’Agulhas lighthouse in South Africa is 33 feet high, 238 feet above sea level, and can be seen for over 50 miles. If the world were a globe, this light would fall 1,400 feet below an observer’s line of sight.
 

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The Statue of Liberty in New York stands 326 feet above sea level and on a clear day can be seen as far as 60 miles away. If the Earth were a globe, that would put Lady Liberty at an impossible 2,074 feet below the horizon.

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Magenta

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The Port Nicholson Light in New Zealand is 420 feet above sea-level and visible from 35 miles away where it should be 220 feet below the horizon.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The Cordonan Light on the west coast of France is 207 feet high and visible from 31 miles away, where it should be 280 feet below the line of sight.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The light at Cape Bonavista, Newfoundland is 150 feet above sea-level and visible at 35 miles, where it should be 491 feet below the horizon.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The Cape L’Agulhas lighthouse in South Africa is 33 feet high, 238 feet above sea level, and can be seen for over 50 miles. If the world were a globe, this light would fall 1,400 feet below an observer’s line of sight.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The Statue of Liberty in New York stands 326 feet above sea level and on a clear day can be seen as far as 60 miles away. If the Earth were a globe, that would put Lady Liberty at an impossible 2,074 feet below the horizon.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The Egerö Light in Norway is 154 feet above high-water and visible from 28 statute miles where it should be 230 feet below the horizon.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The lighthouse steeple of St. Botolph’s Parish Church in Boston is 290 feet tall and visible from over 40 miles away, where it should be hidden a full 800 feet below the horizon!
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
The Isle of Wight lighthouse in England is 180 feet high and can be seen up to 42 miles away, a distance at which modern astronomers say the light should fall 996 feet below line of sight.
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
 

RaceRunner

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Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?

Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?

Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
What you see in those pictures is what you get; perspective is not refracting in those pictures. :cool:
 

RaceRunner

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The lighthouse at Port Said, Egypt, at an elevation of only 60 feet has been seen an astonishing 58 miles away, where, according to modern astronomy it should be 2,182 feet below the line of sight!
 

Magenta

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What you see in those pictures is what you get; perspective is not refracting in those pictures. :cool:
How do you know that light refraction is not contributing to what you see? Do you deny that light bends?
 

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The Notre Dame Antwerp spire stands 403 feet high from the foot of the tower with Strasburg measuring 468 feet above sea level. With the aid of a telescope, ships can be distinguished on the horizon and captains declare they can see the cathedral spire from an amazing 150 miles away. If the Earth were a globe, however, at that distance the spire should be an entire mile, 5,280 feet below the horizon!

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Magenta

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We are seeing actual land masses in these pictures; these pictures are not pictures of mirages.
Many mirages appear as blue water, not land masses, and in fact, uneven/hilly ground
does not normally produce mirages, which is only one type of light refraction.
 

RaceRunner

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Many mirages appear as blue water, not land masses, and in fact, uneven/hilly ground
does not normally produce mirages, which is only one type of light refraction.
We are seeing actual land masses in these pictures; these pictures are not pictures of mirages.
 

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The St. George’s Channel between Holyhead and Kingstown Harbor near Dublin is 60 miles across. When half-way across a ferry passenger will notice behind them the light on Holyhead pier as well as in front of them the Poolbeg light in Dublin Bay. The Holyhead Pier light is 44 feet high, while the Poolbeg lighthouse 68 feet, therefore a vessel in the middle of the channel, 30 miles from either side standing on a deck 24 feet above the water, can clearly see both lights. On a ball Earth 25,000 miles in circumference, however, both lights should be hidden well below both horizons by over 300 feet!

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RaceRunner

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From the highland near Portsmouth Harbor in Hampshire, England looking across Spithead to the Isle of Wight, the entire base of the island, where water and land come together composes a perfectly straight line 22 statute miles long. According to the ball-Earth theory, the Isle of Wight should decline 80 feet from the center on each side to account for the necessary curvature. The cross-hairs of a good theodolite directed there, however, have repeatedly shown the land and water line to be perfectly level.

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Magenta

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We are seeing actual land masses in these pictures; these pictures are not pictures of mirages.
They are not mirages, that is true. That does not mean light refraction played no role, though, either.

So, to ask once again (since you did not answer multiple times already):

Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
 

RaceRunner

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They are not mirages, that is true. That does not mean light refraction played no role, though, either.

So, to ask once again (since you did not answer multiple times already):

Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
These pictures of land masses are not a refraction. :love:
 

RaceRunner

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On a clear day from the highland near Douglas Harbor on the Isle of Man, the whole length of the coast of North Wales is often plainly visible to the naked eye. From the Point of Ayr at the mouth of the River Dee to Holyhead comprises a 50 mile stretch which has also been repeatedly found to be perfectly horizontal. If the Earth actually had curvature of 8 inches per mile squared, as NASA and modern astronomy claim, the 50 mile length of Welsh coast seen along the horizon in Liverpool Bay would have to decline from the center-point an easily detectable 416 feet on each side!