Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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Sipsey

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Then how is it strong enough to attract the Earth to the sun, but weak enough to leave the moon in its own orbit about the Earth? How does it keep the Earth's atmosphere perfectly affixed to the Earth, yet is responsible for the ocean's tides, but doesn't cause tides on a lake? How is it supposed to act in all directions when the only valid experiments indicate it acts only downward? The answer, my friend, according to ball-Earth, is that gravity is magic. It performs (theoretically) in whatever ways are required to perpetuate the myth of heliocentrism.
If it wasn’t for gravity, your bathtub wouldn’t drain. Deep thoughts to ponder.
 
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So you admit that you are a heliocentrist out of faith, rather than science?
From science. I do agree that the Bible presents the earth as flat, supported on pillars, with the dome of the firmament covering it, etc.

Or do you hold that there is scientific proof of such things as gravity acting sideways, or even upward? If there is scientific proof of the latter, surely it matters little whether I am satisfied or no?
Gravity is always an attraction. Depending on the perspective, it can -appear- that gravity acts sideways or upward, but it is always a force of attraction.
 

Moses_Young

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If it wasn’t for gravity, your bathtub wouldn’t drain. Deep thoughts to ponder.
The argument isn't about whether "gravity" acts downward. The argument is whether it acts sideways and upward. Heliocentrism requires this. Flat Earth does not. I hold that there is no scientific evidence of gravity acting sideways and/or upward. Many Flat Earthers will say gravity does not exist - this is what they mean.
 

RaceRunner

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The distance from which various lighthouse lights around the world are visible at sea far exceeds what could be found on a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference. For example, the Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude of 194 feet is visible from a boat (10 feet above sea-level) 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry dictates that if the Earth was a globe with the given curvature of 8 inches per mile squared, this light should be hidden 190 feet below the horizon.

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Webers.Home

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The same force that pulls airplanes down also works to keep them up, viz:
without gravity, there would be no centrifugal force to keep satellites,
airplanes, and the now extinct space shuttles in place at their desired altitudes.

Without gravity we couldn't breathe. Air pressure pushes air into our lungs
when we inhale. It feels like we're sucking it in but without adequate air
pressure, we'd strangle and feint which is why airliner cabins are pressurized
above a certain altitude.

Same goes for the international space station. They can't just fill the cabin
with breathable air; it has to be pressurized so the crew can breathe it in.
Down here on the ground gravity does the pressurizing for us; whereas up
there it's done artificially.

Gravity isn't absolute; it can be suspended. For example 2Kngs 6:4-7 where
an iron axe head was made to float. And Acts 1:9 where Jesus apparently
levitated.
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Magenta

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In reality, however, the entire mountain can be quite easily seen standing straight from base to summit.
In reality, however, the entire mountain can be quite easily seen standing straight from base to summit.
The base of these mountains cannot be seen in either of the images. Why do you promote falsehoods?
 

Magenta

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The distance from which various lighthouse lights around the world are visible at sea far exceeds what could be found on a ball-Earth 25,000 miles in circumference. For example, the Dunkerque Light in southern France at an altitude of 194 feet is visible from a boat (10 feet above sea-level) 28 miles away. Spherical trigonometry dictates that if the Earth was a globe with the given curvature of 8 inches per mile squared, this light should be hidden 190 feet below the horizon.

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Do any of your calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
 

Bob-Carabbio

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How so?

Did the earth stop rotating - go backwards - then forwards again - just to move the shadow on a sundial back 10 degrees?
Why couldn't God move the solar system 10 deg backwards on earth's rotational center??? Problem solved. We ARE talking about God, after all.

Same thing goes for Joshua 10:13 - except for "about a whole day".
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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The wall of ice on a flat Earth isn't located along the equator, rather, at the
world's outermost perimeter, i.e. the flatter's world is sort of like a bicycle
wheel where the tire would its south pole and the hub its north; only on a
flat world, there's no need for a hub because it doesn't spin. In point of fact,
it dare not spin because centrifugal force would complicate things a bit.
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I didn't say there was an ice wall along the equator.
I suggested to use the equator as a guide to the edge. Because Flatties claim an icewall SURROUNDS the discworld.

Anyone can go south to take photographs of Antarctica, claiming it's an icewall.
We would need the icewall to be photographed at other locations around the perimeter of the discword.
This should be easy if the world is a disc shape.
 

Webers.Home

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I suggested to use the equator as a guide to the edge. Because Flatties
claim an icewall SURROUNDS the discworld.

The equator is a horizontal circle at 0° latitude running east and west. In
order to go south to Antarctica, it's necessary to follow a line of longitude:
any line of longitude will do because they all go there like the spokes on a
wagon wheel.
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Lucy-Pevensie

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The equator is a horizontal circle at 0° latitude running east and west. In
order to go south to Antarctica, it's necessary to follow a line of longitude:
any line of longitude will do because they all go there like the spokes on a
wagon wheel.
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But we aren't talking about reality. Flat earthers believe in a flat discworld.
 

RaceRunner

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The Port Nicholson Light in New Zealand is 420 feet above sea-level and visible from 35 miles away where it should be 220 feet below the horizon.
 

RaceRunner

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The Egerö Light in Norway is 154 feet above high-water and visible from 28 statute miles where it should be 230 feet below the horizon.
 

GaryA

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Nothing here to reply to - so - I guess I won't... ;)
 

GaryA

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I do agree that the Bible presents the earth as flat, supported on pillars, with the dome of the firmament covering it, etc.
I can appreciate the fact that you are willing to admit this - even if you do not believe it is literally true. (y) :cool: :coffee:
 
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I can appreciate the fact that you are willing to admit this - even if you do not believe it is literally true. (y) :cool: :coffee:
Of course it's not literally true. God frequently works with people according to the way they see things, things they can grasp. The ancients had no concept of the vastness of space, our solar system, etc.
 

RaceRunner

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The Light at Madras, on the Esplanade, is 132 feet high and visible from 28 miles away, where it should be 250 feet below the line of sight.
 

RaceRunner

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The Cordonan Light on the west coast of France is 207 feet high and visible from 31 miles away, where it should be 280 feet below the line of sight.
 

RaceRunner

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The light at Cape Bonavista, Newfoundland is 150 feet above sea-level and visible at 35 miles, where it should be 491 feet below the horizon.