Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Webers.Home]

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Probably the flatters with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
and all the folks involved in designing satellite communications systems and
the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into believing the Earth is a
sphere.
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[RaceRunner]

From Anchorage, Alaska at an elevation of 102 feet, on clear days Mount McKinley can be seen with the naked eye from 130 miles away. If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference, Mount McKinley’s 20,320 foot summit should be leaning back away from the observer and almost half covered by 9,220 feet of curved Earth. In reality, however, the entire mountain can be quite easily seen standing straight from base to summit.

 

[GaryA]

Inertia.


Inertia. The earth has been rotating for at least 6,000 years. (Young earth creation vs old earth creation is a different topic..)


The air is rotating right along with everything else.


Inertia. The atmosphere rotates in sync with the earth. Of course there are variations... That's why flying east to west generally takes longer than flying west to east.

The next time you fly (assuming you believe in airplanes... ), when you're cruising along at 35,000 feet altitude at ~500mph, drop a quarter on the floor of the aisle. Where does the quarter land? Even though you're moving at 500mph, the quarter lands directly below its release point. Why? Inertia. The plane is moving 500mph. You are moving at 500mph. The quarter was moving 500mph (horizontally). The air in the plane is moving at 500mph. Relative to you being in the plane, the quarter fell straight down. However, from the perspective of someone on the ground, the quarter did not fall straight down at all. It was moving 500mph horizontally the entire time.

If the plane was flying east at the equator, and you were observing the plane from a stationary position in space, since the earth rotates ~1000mph at the equator and the atmpsphere rotates along with the earth, the plane would be moving ~1500 miles an hour toward the east. If the plane was flying west at the equator, and you were observing the plane from a stationary position in space, the plane would be moving ~500 miles an hour to the east.

This is basic physics.

This is basic physics - with an added measure of "magic gravity"...

Inertia is not an infinite amount of energy/force acting on an object indefinitely.

 

[VARob]

This is basic physics - with an added measure of "magic gravity"...

Gravity isn't magic.

Inertia is not an infinite amount of energy/force acting on an object indefinitely.

That's true. And?

 

[GaryA]

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We shouldn't be surprised. I mean just look at the number of folk who've
bought into Dr. Anthony Fauci's spurious narrative. We seem to be living in
an unusual era of gullibility; nothing like I've ever seen in all my 78 years.
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Exactly.

And, that is why the masses trust in [man's] "modern medicine alchemy" more than [God's] 'natural immunity'.

And, that is why the masses believe the earth is a spinning ball flying through space at ever-increasing acceleration rates with ever-widening range of frame of reference.

 

[GaryA]

I am free to dismiss it.

Until God shows you the truth - after which you will never be able to dismiss it ever again...

 

[VARob]

Until God shows you the truth - after which you will never be able to dismiss it ever again...

Same goes for you, Gary.

 

[GaryA]

I can wiggle a pencil in front of you and you would be convinced that the pencil is bending.

Is the pencil bending?

I understand how that trick works - and the associated 'visual' illusion.

I also understand how the Ball Earth trick works - and the associated 'mental' illusion/delusion.

 

[GaryA]

Indeed, it is a high entertainment venue, always good for a few laughs.

It is also a high 'educational' venue - always good for a few 'epiphany' moments in the understanding of reality.

 

[VARob]

It is also a high 'educational' venue - always good for a few 'epiphany' moments in the understanding of reality.

One day the FEers will have their epiphany.

 

[GaryA]

Gravity isn't magic.

Gravity is the universal 'exception' to the same common pattern found in every other area of [basic] physics.

In all of its operation, it 'defies' that pattern.

Think about that for a while.

 

[GaryA]

Same goes for you, Gary.

Yes - we will all soon-enough see just how that goes...

 

[GaryA]

One day the FEers will have their epiphany.

They have already had it - and are waiting on everyone else to get there, too.

 

[RaceRunner]

In Chambers’ Journal, February 1895, a sailor near Mauritius in the Indian Ocean reported having seen a vessel which turned out to be an incredible 200 miles away! The incident caused much heated debate in nautical circles at the time, gaining further confirmation in Aden, Yemen where another witness reported seeing a missing Bombay steamer from 200 miles away. He correctly stated the precise appearance, location and direction of the steamer all later corroborated and confirmed correct by those onboard. Such sightings are absolutely inexplicable if the Earth were actually a ball 25,000 miles around, as ships 200 miles distant would have to fall approximately 5 miles below line of sight!

 

[Moses_Young]

Gravity isn't magic.

Then how is it strong enough to attract the Earth to the sun, but weak enough to leave the moon in its own orbit about the Earth? How does it keep the Earth's atmosphere perfectly affixed to the Earth, yet is responsible for the ocean's tides, but doesn't cause tides on a lake? How is it supposed to act in all directions when the only valid experiments indicate it acts only downward? The answer, my friend, according to ball-Earth, is that gravity is magic. It performs (theoretically) in whatever ways are required to perpetuate the myth of heliocentrism.

 

[Moses_Young]

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Probably the flatters with the weakest legs to stand on are the conspiracy
theorists alleging that the USA, Russia, China, SpaceX, Google Earth, and
the European Space Agency, plus all the imaging teams, all the astronauts,
and all the folks involved in designing satellite communications systems and
the GPS system, have colluded to fool the world into believing the Earth is a
sphere.
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Not that far fetched. Far more conspired together for the recent corona-virus and vaxx hoax, and that was widely believed.

 

[VARob]

Then how is it strong enough to attract the Earth to the sun, but weak enough to leave the moon in its own orbit about the Earth? How does it keep the Earth's atmosphere perfectly affixed to the Earth, yet is responsible for the ocean's tides, but doesn't cause tides on a lake? How is it supposed to act in all directions when the only valid experiments indicate it acts only downward? The answer, my friend, according to ball-Earth, is that gravity is magic. It performs (theoretically) in whatever ways are required to perpetuate the myth of heliocentrism.

There are websites that explain your questions.

 

[Moses_Young]

There are websites that explain your questions.

Not adequately. They offer excuses. See my last sentence. Magic gravity performs (theoretically) in whatever ways are required to perpetuate the myth of heliocentrism.

Note that it's easy to invent a theory as to why something happens (which is what the websites do). What is difficult is demonstrating that the theory one offers has basis in reality (which is what the websites don't).

 

[VARob]

Not adequately. They offer excuses. See my last sentence. Magic gravity performs (theoretically) in whatever ways are required to perpetuate the myth of heliocentrism.

You're a flat-earther. No explanation would satisfy you.

Note that it's easy to invent a theory as to why something happens (which is what the websites do). What is difficult is demonstrating that the theory one offers has basis in reality (which is what the websites don't).

You're a flat-earther. No explanation would satisfy you.

 

[Moses_Young]

You're a flat-earther. No explanation would satisfy you.


You're a flat-earther. No explanation would satisfy you.

So you admit that you are a heliocentrist out of faith, rather than science? Or do you hold that there is scientific proof of such things as gravity acting sideways, or even upward? If there is scientific proof of the latter, surely it matters little whether I am satisfied or no?