Is The New Apostolic Reformation Heretical?

[Locoponydirtman]

Can you give me some details of your investigations that have led you to that conclusion?

Read thier prophetic standards statement.
Thats enough in itself.
But if ya need further investigation you can look at the teachings and the false prophecies of the promenant members. Im not going to list them here. They are easy enough to find on youtube.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

There are no true apostles now. They may call themselves apostles but it's all make believe.

Its worse than that. Its an attempt to usurp authority and take control of chuches, and further their control and make themselves richer. It really is disgusting

 

[ResidentAlien]

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Wow, so many choices. What to choose? I kinda like the sound of Prophet to the Nations. I wonder how much to become an apostle?

https://www.schooloftheprophets.us/faq

 

[Roughsoul1991]

The concept of Anointing has been abused and twisted by Charismatics to mean this below,

Anointings are to give the Christian more power to operate in the gifts. How do you gain this power? By releasing one’s faith.

You will not find this special type of anointing but instead,

1 John 2:27
English Standard Version
27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.

Every Christian has received the anointing of the Holy Spirit. It is the Spirit of God that abides, teaches, and guides you. This anointing is the spiritual act of a physical example with oil. Oil was used to anoint priests or royalty. Spiritual, we are anointed into this royal priesthood.

1 Peter 2:9
English Standard Version
9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

Nothing else is required to have what is needed to carry out in full effect God's Word. The only thing you need is the knowledge of knowing this fact. Abide in Him, and the closeness of the relationship will equip and provide everything you need. Amen.

 

[Lanolin]

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I wouldnt say all those things are heretical, just delusional

Just read the Word, do what it says rather than make up your own version of the Bible.

 

[ResidentAlien]

The concept of Anointing has been abused and twisted by Charismatics to mean this below,

Anointings are to give the Christian more power to operate in the gifts. How do you gain this power? By releasing one’s faith.

You will not find this special type of anointing but instead,

1 John 2:27
English Standard Version
27 But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.

Every Christian has received the anointing of the Holy Spirit. It is the Spirit of God that abides, teaches, and guides you. This anointing is the spiritual act of a physical example with oil. Oil was used to anoint priests or royalty. Spiritual, we are anointed into this royal priesthood.

1 Peter 2:9
English Standard Version
9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

Nothing else is required to have what is needed to carry out in full effect God's Word. The only thing you need is the knowledge of knowing this fact. Abide in Him, and the closeness of the relationship will equip and provide everything you need. Amen.

The "anointing" has been mishandled in another way. A lot of preachers say you must not touch God's anointed or you will face serious detrimental consequences, even death. By this they mean no one has the right to question or speak negatively about God's "anointed." This would be laughable if not for the fact so many people are led astray by false teachers who spew this drivel. Only the most insecure kind of person would resort to such tactics.

 

[mustaphadrink]

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The Watchman Prophet​

The Seer Prophet​

The Nabi Prophet​

Dreams and Visions​

Discernment​

Prophets to the Nations​

Biblical Study for Prophets​

Intercession & Spiritual Warfare​

Ministering Spiritual Gifts​

The Character of the Prophet​

Healing and Deliverance​

Prophetic Protocols​

and more!​

Wow, so many choices. What to choose? I kinda like the sound of Prophet to the Nations. I wonder how much to become an apostle?

https://www.schooloftheprophets.us/faq

Obviously, there is a lot of prophet to be made!!

 

[mustaphadrink]

Read thier prophetic standards statement.
Thats enough in itself.
But if ya need further investigation you can look at the teachings and the false prophecies of the promenant members. Im not going to list them here. They are easy enough to find on youtube.

What is you tube? Anything to do with toothpaste?

Tell me this. Does the scriptures say by their doctrine you will know them or by their works you shall know them.

For example, Derek Prince had been pilloried forever and a day. Derek was a good friend of our fellowship and visited us every year for one of our weekend conferences. I have yet to meet a man as gracious as he was. Although he was a PhD, a Professor in Biblical Greek and Hebrew at Cambridge University you would never know as he never demanded anything special from us and he didn't treat those of us without a degree any different to those with a degree/s.

Plus his books have gone to millions around the world, a large amount to persecuted Christians who can afford nothing, so he gives them everything free. Whatever people say about Derek his actions speaks much louder than his critics words.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Doing good works doesn't give anyone a license to teach false doctrine and lead people astray. I know the "full gospel" folks see traditional Christianity as enemy number one, especially the ones who emphasize that dirty "D" word. The only way they can get away with the things they do is if people are ignorant of the scriptures and sound doctrine.

 

[CS1]

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According to the picture, it is heretical, so I ask those who follow the 5-fold ministry, how do you respond to the NOLR and NAR roots of the 2nd Great Awakening movement?

Was this the position of the early church post-apostolic age?

Neither one is biblical but opinionated.

 

[mustaphadrink]

Doing good works doesn't give anyone a license to teach false doctrine and lead people astray. I know the "full gospel" folks see traditional Christianity as enemy number one, especially the ones who emphasize that dirty "D" word. The only way they can get away with the things they do is if people are ignorant of the scriptures and sound doctrine.

I never said it did. it seems to me that your opposition to the miraculous work of God you will invent things that do not exist or have not been said so you have to conjure up red herrings to justify what you claim.

Before you accuse, may I suggest you take a good look at your ignorance of scripture.

I don't see traditional Christianity as enemy number one. I see Satan as enemy number one.

WE don't get "away " with anything because we don't need to because we do not call the work of the
holy spirt the word of satan.

 

[mustaphadrink]

Its worse than that. Its an attempt to usurp authority and take control of chuches, and further their control and make themselves richer. It really is disgusting

You could say that about 50% of the churches at a guess, but I have a tendency to see the glass half full, not half empty.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I never said it did. it seems to me that your opposition to the miraculous work of God you will invent things that do not exist or have not been said so you have to conjure up red herrings to justify what you claim.

Before you accuse, may I suggest you take a good look at your ignorance of scripture.

I don't see traditional Christianity as enemy number one. I see Satan as enemy number one.

WE don't get "away " with anything because we don't need to because we do not call the work of the
holy spirt the word of satan.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

What is you tube? Anything to do with toothpaste?

Tell me this. Does the scriptures say by their doctrine you will know them or by their works you shall know them.

For example, Derek Prince had been pilloried forever and a day. Derek was a good friend of our fellowship and visited us every year for one of our weekend conferences. I have yet to meet a man as gracious as he was. Although he was a PhD, a Professor in Biblical Greek and Hebrew at Cambridge University you would never know as he never demanded anything special from us and he didn't treat those of us without a degree any different to those with a degree/s.

Plus his books have gone to millions around the world, a large amount to persecuted Christians who can afford nothing, so he gives them everything free. Whatever people say about Derek his actions speaks much louder than his critics words.

The New Testament is full of warnings against teachers of false doctrine.
And so what if he gives away his books full of deception to people.

Their prophecy standards statement is directly contrary to the standard God set.

 

[mustaphadrink]

The New Testament is full of warnings against teachers of false doctrine.
And so what if he gives away his books full of deception to people.

Their prophecy standards statement is directly contrary to the standard God set.

You are in very dangerous territory my friend calling the work of the Holy Spirit the work of Satan.

 

[mustaphadrink]

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

This reminds me of the idiots claiming to be prophets and predicted Trump would be reelected and that there would be a republican sweep this past November.

These woke prophets could not predict getting beat up if they were alone in a dark alley surrounded by thugs.

 

[ResidentAlien]

You are in very dangerous territory my friend calling the work of the Holy Spirit the work of Satan.

Watch out here it comes, the fear tactics.

 

[mustaphadrink]

Watch out here it comes, the fear tactics.

Yes, Jesus used them all the time. For example, he said EXCEPT a man be born again he CANNOT see the kingdom of God.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

You are in very dangerous territory my friend calling the work of the Holy Spirit the work of Satan.

The scriptures have many warnings against teachers of false doctrine.
The prophecy statndards statement issued by the NAR, are in direct contradiction to the word of God, and the prophecy standards set by the word of God.
The false prophets of the NAR in no way reflect or represent the work of the Holy Spirit.