Christians response to gay marriage?

[kaylagrl]

Persecuted people have a tendency to organize to combat persecution. Did you happen to read and/or see the news about the mass murder at an LGBTQ club in Colorado Springs? So, who is threatened?

Churches have been shot up, Jewish synagogues. We don't know yet what the reasoning was. If it was because of hate against gay people, that's wrong and those who did it will and should be punished for it. But that doesn't mean we condone sin. The Bible says it's wrong and that's the end on the subject.

 

[kaylagrl]

Nah

Yes, 100%

 

[Dude653]

Yes, 100%

American Christians..."I think everyone should be Christian '
People.."what if I don't want to be"
American Christians "stop persecuting me"

 

[kaylagrl]

American Christians..."I think everyone should be Christian '

Absolutely, of course I want everyone to be saved. That's the whole point of the Gospel.

People.."what if I don't want to be"
American Christians "stop persecuting me"

Goes both ways. If I disagree with your lifestyle, don't turn around and say you're being persecuted.

 

[Beckie]

Absolutely, of course I want everyone to be saved. That's the whole point of the Gospel.




Goes both ways. If I disagree with your lifestyle, don't turn around and say you're being persecuted.

Mar_6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

 

[Scarecrow]

Because at that time, I chose to be "into" men and not women and accepted the date. I probably made that choice before, like when i first wanted to date, but that was when it was cemented. It was cemented again when I chose to get married in November of 1991 to my now late husband. I can change my choice anytime I want, but I continue to choose men. That is the beauty of action and choice of love. I would rather know someone wants me, because they choose to want me, over wanting me because of some sort of chemical in their brains that may or may not be healthy at that moment. We are not slaves to our emotions, we control them.
Now I have things to do, so I am off for the day. I'm done with this. You won't change my mind, and I won't change your mind.
Have a good one.
Peace!!

so you are bisexual

 

[Scarecrow]

Not proof.
Proof is inherent at conception.

any proof of that?

 

[Scarecrow]

In God's eyes homosexuality is an abomination. It is not love, it is not natural, it is not condoned. It is outside of what God created. The point was made that "love is love" can pertain to any situation, as was demonstrated with pedophilia. So you can twist in the wind, but the Bible is 110% clear, homosexuality is un-natural and outside of what God intended it to be. If you are either believing or telling people anything else, you are lying to them and putting their souls in danger. Homosexuality is a bondage to sin, it is wrong. Period.

I'm still left wondering why I or any decent person woudl say something that hateful and bigoted

 

[Scarecrow]

All sin affects society.

When sin is part of an agenda and organized then it becomes a threat to Christianity.

what agenda?

 

[HeIsHere]

any proof of that?

It is up to you to prove that homosexual sexual orientation is set at conception not me, since you are making the claim.

 

[HeIsHere]

what agenda?

You can look into eveything for your self.

 

[Scarecrow]

Well here comes the issue. Our friend here claims to be a Christian and says that his lifestyle is natural and not wrong. He even has some great re-visionist talking points to back up his claim. We never thought that gay marriage would become accepted in America. Now homosexuality is being pushed in churches. And soon, just like the baker, what you believe won't matter. If you won't do gay marriages or accept that lifestyle as just another form of love the gov't will shut you down. If you preach your beliefs, you will end up in a prison cell. If you mis-gender a person, you will lose your job, just as the teacher did near me. Then sin becomes the law of the land and as many societies that have come before us have found out, a society like that will not last.

i find it difficult to believe that this teacher was fired for mis-gendering a student. Far more likely they were fired for insubordination, violation of school policy, violation of judicial precedent and your state’s Department of Education code of ethic.
As a country that separates church and state, we cannot simply allow public employees, whose salaries are paid by our taxes, to impose their religious beliefs within public institutions that are there to serve everyone. EVERYONE, even people you don't like. Misgendering a transgender chilstudent is wrong. It goes against the very ethos of what being a teacher means: to provide a nurturing space where students can learn, regardless of who they are. That teacher's choice created a hostile learning environment. Just as we accept peoples right to be called by the name they prefer, it does us no harm to also refer to them in the pronoun they prefer. Besides, why would this teacher claim to know what gender this student was? What determines someone’s sex? Their external genitals? Did this teacher inspect that student's body?

 

[Scarecrow]

Some in this Thread claim the desire to be homosexual is an inherent trait.

So why are they trying to influence children?

If it's natural you don't need to influence someone.

And still, they are doing what they can to influence young minds.

They are Demonic and perverted and severely mentally twisted.

No, everyone's sexual orientation is inborn.

 

[Scarecrow]

It is up to you to prove that homosexual sexual orientation is set at conception not me, since you are making the claim.

how can that be accomplished if you refuse to look at evidence?

 

[Scarecrow]

You can look into eveything for your self.

so no agenda.

 

[Scarecrow]

Persecuted people have a tendency to organize to combat persecution. Did you happen to read and/or see the news about the mass murder at an LGBTQ club in Colorado Springs? So, who is threatened?

There are those here who will say that all the gunman was doing was disagreeing with homosexuality

 

[Dude653]

so no agenda.

They think people are going to magically turn gay because they saw a gay person

 

[kaylagrl]

I'm still left wondering why I or any decent person woudl say something that hateful and bigoted

I'm wondering why you came here claiming to be a Christian when you only post on the subject of homosexuality, this particular thread. Can you share when you began your personal relationship with Christ? I'm wondering if you believe the Bible, or only certain parts that line up with your POV.


‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. Lev 18

Rom 1-25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.


Lev 18 - 22 “ ‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

23 “ ‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion

24 “ ‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled.

Lev 20- 13 “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.

1 Cor. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with

10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

This verse points out that there is redemption for homosexuals, found in Christ.


1 Tim.1- 8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.

9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,

10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine

Hebrews 13- 4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

 

[kaylagrl]

They think people are going to magically turn gay because they saw a gay person

They do not. So don't put dumb words in other peoples mouths.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Some in this Thread claim the desire to be homosexual is an inherent trait.

So why are they trying to influence children?

If it's natural you don't need to influence someone.

And still, they are doing what they can to influence young minds.

They are Demonic and perverted and severely mentally twisted.

I agree. Those two wolves in sheep's clothing

Thinking Christians who obey Jesus' command to love your neighbor as yourself. It is unChristian to attack a group of people because of their sin unless one attacks all who sin.

Chapter and verse?