Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[DavidTree]

What is this thing you have against NASA? Many countries have their own space agencies. These verses do nothing in regard to the questions that were asked in my posts. Also, they do not support the premise of a flat earth.

These verses verify the Creation account in Genesis and elsewhere in scripture:
a.) the earth has foundations
b.) those foundations cannot be seen or found out
c.) the seas/water has boundaries due to it's God given nature/law and that law/ordinance being impossible on a spinning ball earth.
d.) the sun, moon and stars have a ordained circuit = they move across the sky over a stationary earth

Somebody is lying = NASA and the world governments or God

Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together,
against the LORD
and against His Anointed One:

You are witnessing the"kings of the earth taking their stand against the LORD."

 

[tourist]

These verses verify the Creation account in Genesis and elsewhere in scripture:
a.) the earth has foundations
b.) those foundations cannot be seen or found out
c.) the seas/water has boundaries due to it's God given nature/law and that law/ordinance being impossible on a spinning ball earth.
d.) the sun, moon and stars have a ordained circuit = they move across the sky over a stationary earth

Somebody is lying = NASA and the world governments or God

Why do the nations rage
and the peoples plot in vain?
The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together,
against the LORD
and against His Anointed One:

You are witnessing the"kings of the earth taking their stand against the LORD."

Again, nothing to do with what I asked, which is why is there no photographic evidence regarding the edge of the earth or physical maps based on actual surveys in regard to the position of the countries in relation to the edge and to each other. What is the distance between the two cities farthest apart from each other? These are basic easy questions to answer. The truth is, there is no answer because the earth is not flat and there is no ice wall preventing the oceans going off the edge. If you have evidence then please comply to support your flat earth, ice edge claims.

 

[DavidTree]

Again, nothing to do with what I asked, which is why is there no photographic evidence regarding the edge of the earth or physical maps based on actual surveys in regard to the position of the countries in relation to the edge and to each other. What is the distance between the two cities farthest apart from each other? These are basic easy questions to answer. The truth is, there is no answer because the earth is not flat and there is no ice wall preventing the oceans going off the edge. If you have evidence then please comply to support your flat earth, ice edge claims.

Not a single person has been able to provide evidence of a water ball earth spinning thru space:
a.) from God who cannot lie
b.) from His Creation

The evidence of which you seek exists but satan and the "kings of the earth" will not permit you to see it and the evidence of the truth of the earth that has already been brought forth in the past, has been either destroyed, burried and or mocked into oblivion.

GOD said so:

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

IMPORTANT:
If someone cannot see the evidence in God's words that can be seen in His Creation, then they are bound to believe the world view.

We either believe "every word spoken out of the mouth of God" or we pick and choose from the vast World encyclopedia out of satan's mouth = "did God really say."

 

[DavidTree]

Again, nothing to do with what I asked, which is why is there no photographic evidence regarding the edge of the earth or physical maps based on actual surveys in regard to the position of the countries in relation to the edge and to each other. What is the distance between the two cities farthest apart from each other? These are basic easy questions to answer. The truth is, there is no answer because the earth is not flat and there is no ice wall preventing the oceans going off the edge. If you have evidence then please comply to support your flat earth, ice edge claims.

Loving Reminder for you Brother,

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, “We have seen the Lord.”

So he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe.”

And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

This same principle of truth applies to all that God has spoken.

 

[tourist]

From what I have gathered from the flat earth threads is that those that support a flat earth believe that the sun actually rises and sets to account for the day and night.

My contention is that the writing was descriptive and written that way so as to be readily understood. It is my belief that the sun neither rises nor sets but just appears that way due to the earth's rotation on its axis. The earth revolves around the sun thus the change of seasons. The sun does not revolve around the earth. The sun does have a circuit, but that circuit is its path through the Milky Way.

In the bible it says that Moses was leading the Israelites to a land flowing with milk and honey. My question is - was this language figurative or literal? If figurative, then why can't the passages regarding the rising and setting of the sun be figurative and not literal?

Is all scripture to be taken literally or, using discernment, conclude that some passages are figurative in their writing based on the context of which they were presented?

 

[Dino246]

These verses verify the Creation account in Genesis and elsewhere in scripture:
a.) the earth has foundations

Uh huh. Foundations can be temporal as well as physical. The text doesn't specify which.

b.) those foundations cannot be seen or found out

Where is that in Scripture?

c.) the seas/water has boundaries due to it's God given nature/law and that law/ordinance being impossible on a spinning ball earth.

It's not impossible. The problem is that you don't understand basic physics.

d.) the sun, moon and stars have a ordained circuit = they move across the sky over a stationary earth

There you go adding to Scripture again. By the way, it's "an" ordained circuit, not "a".

Why do the nations rage...

You are witnessing the"kings of the earth taking their stand against the LORD."

That verse was fulfilled already, as explained by Peter in Acts 4.

 

[DavidTree]

From what I have gathered from the flat earth threads is that those that support a flat earth believe that the sun actually rises and sets to account for the day and night.

My contention is that the writing was descriptive and written that way so as to be readily understood. It is my belief that the sun neither rises nor sets but just appears that way due to the earth's rotation on its axis. The earth revolves around the sun thus the change of seasons. The sun does not revolve around the earth. The sun does have a circuit, but that circuit is its path through the Milky Way.

In the bible it says that Moses was leading the Israelites to a land flowing with milk and honey. My question is - was this language figurative or literal? If figurative, then why can't the passages regarding the rising and setting of the sun be figurative and not literal?

Is all scripture to be taken literally or, using discernment, conclude that some passages are figurative in their writing based on the context of which they were presented?

Was milk and honey found it the Land? YES

Does milk and honey FLOW? YES

Does God lie? NO

Does the earth have foundations? YES
Can those foundations be search out? NO
Does NASA and the governments of the world show fake pictures of the entire earth? YES

So who is lying? God or NASA/ governments of the deceived world

 

[Dino246]

Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed.
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

This same principle of truth applies to all that God has spoken.

You haven't seen the spherical earth, therefore you don't believe it. Hypocrisy yet again.

 

[tourist]

This same principle of truth applies to all that God has spoken.

I fully concur but the problem seems to be that certain truths are not readily discerned or agreed upon, including whether or not the earth is flat or round. There is no scripture that specifically states this either way.

 

[DavidTree]

You haven't seen the spherical earth, therefore you don't believe it. Hypocrisy yet again.

My Heavenly FATHER created the earth and i believe His word = no water ball spinning globe.

So the joke is on you at the behest of the mockers.

 

[tourist]

Was milk and honey found it the Land? YES

Does milk and honey FLOW? YES

I believe you to be an intelligent educated man and can certainly do better than that. Milk will flow if you spill it but there are no rivers or streams of milk or even honey for that matter. It was descriptive language describing an abundantly fertile land rather than a barren desert.

 

[DavidTree]

I fully concur but the problem seems to be that certain truths are not readily discerned or agreed upon, including whether or not the earth is flat or round. There is no scripture that specifically states this either way.

Many scriptures have been posted here, which you can find, that clearly refute a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun.
No one has been able to find scriptures that speak of a spinning sphere earth that orbits the sun.

Whether you choose to believe the Scripture is a matter of choice = it always has been.

 

[DavidTree]

I believe you to be an intelligent educated man and can certainly do better than that. Milk will flow if you spill it but there are no rivers or streams of milk or even honey for that matter. It was descriptive language describing an abundantly fertile land rather than a barren desert.

It was both descriptive and accurate.
God knew, and so did the people back then, that milk comes from sheep/goats/cows and honey comes from bees.

Descriptive in 'abundance' and truthfully accurate in 'abundance' and nowhere did God say that they can be found (literally) flowing in streams and rivers which God created for water.

The Scripture is not archaic nor is it ignorance, as the Globalists want you to believe.

When God made the sun and moon stand still in the sky, it is literal and fully agrees with the Creation account in Genesis and throughout the Scripture.

Peace and remember that searching for Truth takes time, effort, prayer and will be vigorously attacked.

 

[tourist]

Not a single person has been able to provide evidence of a water ball earth spinning thru space:
a.) from God who cannot lie
b.) from His Creation

Tons of evidence photographic and otherwise. Centuries before space travel it was known through astronomical observation and mathematic calculation, the circumference of the earth, the length of its rotation and the duration of a complete circuit around the sun. Also known was the distance between the sun and the earth. OK, it's all bogus - where is the preponderance of evidence, bogus or otherwise to support a flat earth claim? All i have seen are some goofy distorted drawings of maps, most of which have omitted Antartica. No photos, no journals, no surveys, no nothing.

 

[tourist]

Peace and remember that searching for Truth takes time, effort and will be vigorously attacked.

I get that vigorously attacked reference and not just my experience in the BDF flat earth threads.

 

[DavidTree]

Tons of evidence photographic and otherwise. Centuries before space travel it was known through astronomical observation and mathematic calculation, the circumference of the earth, the length of its rotation and the duration of a complete circuit around the sun. Also known was the distance between the sun and the earth. OK, it's all bogus - where is the preponderance of evidence, bogus or otherwise to support a flat earth claim? All i have seen are some goofy distorted drawings of maps, most of which have omitted Antartica. No photos, no journals, no surveys, no nothing.

The preponderance of evidence is right in front of you = everyday.
The sun, moon and stars travel across the sky just as our Heavenly Father has told us.

The sun and moon are not millions of miles away and this, again, can be seen everyday (when the sky is clear).

 

[tourist]

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Whether you or I choose to believe the Scripture is a matter of choice = it always has been.

Fixed it for you.

 

[tourist]

The preponderance of evidence is right in front of you = everyday.
The sun, moon and stars travel across the sky just as our Heavenly Father has told us.

The sun and moon are not millions of miles away and this, again, can be seen everyday (when the sky is clear).

How far away is the sun from the earth? I have asked this before.

 

[DavidTree]

I get that vigorously attacked reference and not just my experience in the BDF flat earth threads.

Dear Brother, i am not against anyone one here, even those who now despise me for my stand on the Holy Scriptures.

NO ONE is SAVED by believing in the correct shape of the earth.

WE, who know HIM who called us out of darkness are purely saved by the "precious blood of the LAMB without spot or blemish".

Thank You for your warmth and Love in Christ

 

[DavidTree]

How far away is the sun from the earth? I have asked this before.

The exact distance is not relevant but what is relevant is that God created the sun, moon and stars to be lights in the sky each one having it's own light.

What is relevant and TRUE is that our Heavenly Father, the Creator, said He gave them an irrevocable Law to follow as they move in His Ordained Circuit across the sky.

PEACE and LOVE and HAPPY THANKSGIVING to You and ALL here on CC who love the LORD Jesus Christ and the Brethren

signing out