The plan to destroy America

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JTB

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Out of curiosity I did a quick Google search and there are approximately 210 million Christians in America and there are approximately 30 million of them who aren't registered or don't vote that comes to about 76% of them are voting
There are some denominations like Jehovah's witnesses who believe they are not supposed to get involved in anything political
But I do feel like every American should exercise his or her right to vote
That right includes the right to abstain when none of the choices are palatable.
 

JTB

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Supreme Court has decided that abortion is up to each state to decide.
That won't change regardless of who's president because the president cannot override a supreme Court decision
But a President and congress can make new law
 

ZNP

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That right includes the right to abstain when none of the choices are palatable.
Yes, if every person has to vote then you add legitimacy to an illegitimate choice.

The elites get to decide who the two candidates are and then you think you have a choice when in reality you are simply voting for their choice.
 

Dude653

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Tell that to the Democrats, you obviously were not listening to their campaigns. They wanted to get abortion on the Bill of rights.
I'm pretty sure it takes a 2/3 Senate bowl to make any changes to the Constitution and that's about as likely to happen is my beating LeBron James in basketball
 

ZNP

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Out of curiosity I did a quick Google search and there are approximately 210 million Christians in America and there are approximately 30 million of them who aren't registered or don't vote that comes to about 76% of them are voting
There are some denominations like Jehovah's witnesses who believe they are not supposed to get involved in anything political
But I do feel like every American should exercise his or her right to vote
I would agree that Christians should not be campaigning for others to not vote. The one grey area is that the NT says Christians need to obey the laws of the land. It is not a law that you have to vote in this country, but in other countries it is much closer to being mandatory.

In this country you have the right to vote or not vote. So it is not a violation of the law to not vote, however, it is also understood that in this country they encourage every single person to vote and there is no reason to be out there provoking people.
 

ZNP

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I'm pretty sure it takes a 2/3 Senate bowl to make any changes to the Constitution and that's about as likely to happen is my beating LeBron James in basketball
I could easily beat Lebron James in basketball, as long as I get to make the rules.
 

JTB

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I'm pretty sure it takes a 2/3 Senate bowl to make any changes to the Constitution and that's about as likely to happen is my beating LeBron James in basketball
Changes to the constitution are made by:

2/3 of the states or 2/3 of congress proposing an amendment

That amendment then has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.

But abortion is not covered in the constitution one way or another. It was covered by federal law. It was the federal law that was overturned. There nothing to stop the imposition of a new law.
 

ZNP

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In my opinion Maricopa county has to allow anyone who was unable to vote because of those broken machines to come and vote.
 

ZNP

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Changes to the constitution are made by:

2/3 of the states or 2/3 of congress proposing an amendment

That amendment then has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.

But abortion is not covered in the constitution one way or another. It was covered by federal law. It was the federal law that was overturned. There nothing to stop the imposition of a new law.
That is a good point. If the Federal government passed a law, it wouldn't have to be a constitutional change, so far SCOTUS has only ruled there is no constitutional right to abortion, they have not ruled that such a law would be unconstitutional. Consider the hypocrisy, the Democrats controlled the house, senate and President and yet didn't pass a law! This shows they know how unpopular such a law would be.
 

Dude653

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That right includes the right to abstain when none of the choices are palatable.
That's why I go with a write in vote when I don't approve of either of the candidates. Some say that's wasting a vote but in my opinion that's letting my voice be heard that I don't approve of the candidates they are picking
There is a judge here in my hometown who always runs unopposed and I do a write in just about against him. Last time I wrote n Pee-wee Herman
 

JTB

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That's why I go with a write in vote when I don't approve of either of the candidates. Some say that's wasting a vote but in my opinion that's letting my voice be heard that I don't approve of the candidates they are picking
There is a judge here in my hometown who always runs unopposed and I do a write in just about against him. Last time I wrote n Pee-wee Herman
That's why I vote a third party candidate. Just to put a tick in the 'none of the above' column.

It's not a wasted vote. Expecting to get change while voting for more of the same - that's a wasted vote. And the definition of insanity.
 

JTB

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There is hope we can change the speaker of the house.
That's nice on the surface, but who you gonna replace her with that won't just be more of the same?
 

Dude653

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That's why I vote a third party candidate. Just to put a tick in the 'none of the above' column.

It's not a wasted vote. Expecting to get change while voting for more of the same - that's a wasted vote. And the definition of insanity.
I agree. It makes no sense to complain about things if people aren't willing to vote
 

shittim

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That's nice on the surface, but who you gonna replace her with that won't just be more of the same?
Steve Scalise, or just about anyone would be better that the person who drove Paul Pelosi to became bi.:giggle::giggle::giggle::unsure:;)
 

ZNP

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My wife says that all the time. If you didn't vote then you have no right to complain.
But if your complaint is that neither candidate is worthy of a vote isn't that what not voting is saying? Also, suppose you did a write in vote and said "none of the above"?

The saying I like is "in all things give thanks" and also "pray unceasingly".
 

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The Greatest threat to this country are the Green Party domestic underwear terrorists with hammers. Let's send these terrorists back to their countries and let's regulate hammers among the mentally ill.