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[montana123]

Were the sons of God angels or the sons of Seth in Genesis where the women had giant babies. I personally side with the story that angels slept with women.

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Gen 6:12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Gen 6:13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

It does not seem like a fallen angel and a human could have children.

Only God can create which Jesus was conceived by God in the womb of Mary but I do not see how a child can be conceived by a fallen angel for they do not have the power to create for only a man and a woman can have a child.

It could mean that the fallen angels possessed the men and they took wives of all they chose.

They produced offspring that became mighty men, men of renown, which could be because of the nature of the fallen angels that they influenced the offspring to be wicked and violent.

Which is why the world was continually evil and only went by the imagination of their minds which means they only wanted their own way not considering the ways of God.

The human race can only be evil continually where they only care about their own ways if they are influenced by the devil.

Jesus and the saints will rule over one sixth of the world that God spared at the battle of Armageddon which the devil is locked up for 1000 years and because of that there is peace on earth.

If the fallen angels do not influence mankind they would not be evil continually.

So it seems as if the fallen angels did influence mankind but did not have offspring with the women but possessed the men and they had offspring with the women with the nature of a devil and that is why the world was in the state it was in.

And God would not flood the earth if the fallen angels did not influence mankind because they would still have a chance to be right with God because they would not be evil continually.

God flooded the earth because they were evil continually which means that there was no sense in allowing mankind to continue for there would be no chance at saving them and that can only happen if the fallen angels influence mankind with their wickedness to where the people only go by that with no thought about the ways of God.

Jesus said at the end time it will be like the days of Noah where they will be carrying on with daily activities and not giving heed to what the saints are saying about God going against the world to defeat them and taking His children to be with Him but they ignore it not believing it.

It will also be like the days of Noah that the fallen angels will influence mankind until they are evil continually and then God will end sin on earth for there is no use in allowing them to continue for they cannot be saved.

The war in Revelation chapter 12 has not happened yet but will happen when the New Age Christ, antichrist, works in the world pushing the agenda of the new age movement for three and one half years and at the end of that time the transgressors are come to the full and then war will break out in heaven and the devils will be cast to the earth where they will deceive all people who do not love God to follow the New Age Christ and then God will end sin on earth.

Which the Bible says that the earth has become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

The devils will deceive all people who do not love God to follow the New Age Christ which is the strong delusion God will send everyone that does not love the truth but has pleasure in unrighteousness.

God will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him so He is giving the world 7 years to have their way and go against the truth and then He will end sin on earth.

The New Age Christ will work in the world for three and one half years as a great man of peace and the biggest player on the world scene and will push the agenda of the new age movement and at the end of the three and one half years he will claim to be God by evolving to be spiritual and godlike and the most advanced being in the universe and there is no personal God above them but it is all about people.

The devils will deceive all people that do not love God and when they take the mark of the beast then the people will have the nature of a devil and will be evil continually and salvation is no longer available to the world and God will end sin on earth.

The only way that mankind can be evil continually is if the fallen angels influence them to where they only care about their own ways and do not care about the ways of God which happened at the time of Noah and will happen in the future when the devil appears as the New Age Christ and the devils deceive the people who do not love God.

The end time will be like the days of Noah.

The new age movement, the beginning of the end.

Continued,

 

[montana123]

Continued,

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

God warns the saints of the new age movement and their false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior but a good teacher and love and evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God but honor the God of forces or the power of nature as their higher power the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

That is why they teach evolution in school although they will say it was for a different reason but they only use that as an excuse to teach them evolution.

They will forbid a man and a woman from coming together for population reduction but they do not believe they have to keep the human race going on by birth for they are evolving to be spiritual in which they will live forever.

They push homosexuality in society and cause some people to be confused about their gender and even influence young children about their gender trying to ask them what gender they want to be and some teachers putting boys in dresses and one teacher of 2 years old put out a video bragging about how she was talking to the children with another teacher who was homosexual about gender and genitals.

They are preparing society for the coming system in which they have to be homosexual or do without sex which the last king, antichrist will have no desire of women.

They will stop the eating of meat for they reverence nature, mother earth.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The time will come when people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to their own lusts to believe they are evolving to be spiritual and greater and there is no higher power above them which they will say I am and there is no one else beside me.

The new age movement is the cause of the world rebelling against God which they will influence the world all nations governments supporting it and they will not allow the teaching of anything contrary to the new age movement or it will be a hate crime and they will say it is not the truth and they want peace.

The Bible says that this false interpretation of the Bible will come out at the latter times the last days of the last days and close to Jesus coming back.

They believe Lucifer is a solar angel that descended from Venus to Earth eons ago to bring the principle of mind to the then animal-man and will help them to evolve in the future.

The new age movement believes the Christians have the wrong interpretation of the Bible and that Lucifer is a good god and Adonai, Yahweh God, is an imposter that does not want mankind to become gods.

It is the same lie Satan told Eve in the garden that if she ate the fruit she would become like a god.

And it is close to them producing the New Age Christ.

The new age movement believes that aliens are going to help mankind to have peace on earth and that there are aliens on earth right now to help mankind to have peace on earth.

There are many videos and articles of people saying they have proof of aliens.

They pose the question is God an alien as they will convince the world that God is an alien.

A man predicted that aliens will land on earth December 8, 2022, and they will keep pushing that aliens will help mankind to have peace on earth.

Scientists say that human are not of the earth so they are aliens and say we need to prepare for an alien encounter.

The occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers which they believe will give them more power through nature.

Which they are talking about angel numbers and the angel number 666 which they say is a good number according to the Cosmos and they are going to convince the world that if they embrace that number they will have the power to transition the world to a world of peace.

6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature to establish his kingdom and prosper.

It is the new age movement that is in control now and that is how they interpret the Bible now which the other religions have no problem with it for Jesus is not Lord and Savior but a good teacher and love and their religions are nature based.

The nations will come together as one to work for peace on earth and the Arab nations governments will go along with it but they will have a problem with the religion of Islam for they will say it is an insult to Allah and Islam and the world will clash with the Arab nations being bombed with nuclear weapons the 6th trumpet.

After the 6th trumpet God says the world will not repent of their sins and turn to Him and they turn to the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.

The 6 trumpets are warnings to the world to turn to God.

An example is WW1, did not turn to God, set up League of Nations.

WW2, did not turn to God, but set up United Nations.

The next step is the one world government which North Korea and the Ukraine war is a scare tactic to cause the world to come together to work for peace on earth for the fear that a nuclear attack could happen that could devastate the world.

The nations governments are working together but they will do not want the people to know that.

Republican and Democrat are actually working together but they do not want the people to know that.

They will go to a new form of government that is neither Republican or Democrat but a balance between democracy and communism which will mimic the one world government to come.

The one world religious system will be a balance between atheist and spirituality.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to have peace on earth and evolve until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth so they are working on that.

It is finally here after all these years the final scene in the history of mankind.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

To those who believe that the Sons of God refers to angels, what explanation do you give that explains how the angels came about their ability to reproduce?
I ask because they don't even have the ability to reproduce after their own kind. How and when did they become endowed with the ability to reproduce after another kind?
I'm not asking in jest. I've never been able to find an answer. Does scripture speak to this issue?

no it doesn’t to My knowledge either but it could somewhere the Bible’s a big book I still find new things often I had read many times but never heard

I’m also always curious if people have scripture saying things plainly it adds real weight to an argument for me always

 

[Shepherd]

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 5: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he(Adam) begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.


The Bible says to
"compare scripture with scripture" correct?
So if Adam was a "son of God" and he was around for "930 years" "begatting" sons and daughters (multiplying) wouldn't you say that Adam was around "when men BEGAN to multiply" ? So if he was around when they "began to multiply" (since he was one of those multiplying) then he would have had to be one of these "sons of God" since it says "THE sons of God saw the daughters"
and took the wives etc. So Adam would have had to be part of this bunch. Was Adam a fallen angel too? Of course not. Does it say "the sons of God, excluding Adam. took the wives...?

 

[Shepherd]

Jesus Himself told us exactly what they were doing.....
Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Is there anything wrong with "marrying a wife"? What about actively marrying "WIVES". (polygamy)? That's what I believe they were doing and God's people(except Noah) were doing it too.

 

[Webers.Home]

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I know very well, but the body inside the womb of Mary was prepared by
God. It could not have anything to do with man's corrupt line.

"Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one." (Job 14:4)

In other words: it is humanly impossible to produce a man like Jesus; 100%
sinless in thought, word, and deed. So in that respect, Job's logic is spot-on.
Yet there he is (Isa 11:1, Isa 11:10, & Isa 53:1-2) because although it is
humanly impossible, it isn't impossible for the one who has full control over
everything in the natural sphere. The Bible's many miracles easily prove that
out.
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[John146]

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The Bible contains a large amount of writing tracing the biological origin of
Jesus' body all the way back to Adam, beginning with his wife.

• Gen 3:15 . . I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your seed and her seed. He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His
heel.

Just about everybody on both sides of the aisle agrees that prophesy relates
to Jesus.

And then there's this:

• Gen 12:3 . . All peoples on earth will be blessed through you.

That one connects Jesus to Abraham; and from thence the Bible traces
Jesus' biological genealogy with earnest thru the lines of Isaac, Jacob, and
Judah.
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And yet, a virgin shall conceive and bare a son...

 

[John146]

Sounds like we have a some "Mary, Queen of the Universe" people on here. It's a joke people, a joke.

 

[Mem]

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 5: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he(Adam) begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.


The Bible says to
"compare scripture with scripture" correct?
So if Adam was a "son of God" and he was around for "930 years" "begatting" sons and daughters (multiplying) wouldn't you say that Adam was around "when men BEGAN to multiply" ? So if he was around when they "began to multiply" (since he was one of those multiplying) then he would have had to be one of these "sons of God" since it says "THE sons of God saw the daughters"
and took the wives etc. So Adam would have had to be part of this bunch. Was Adam a fallen angel too? Of course not. Does it say "the sons of God, excluding Adam. took the wives...?

Yes! It seems to me going from living almost 1000 years to barely 100 is a pretty hard fall.
They saw daughters of men (instead of seeing them as daughters of God, i.e. lusting after their flesh/no regard for their spirit), and the flood can be likened to a "shotgun wedding" scenario with the disgruntled (or indignant?) Father following through with His treat.

 

[DavidTree]

Eve was the mother of all living. After the flood, all humanity were descendants of Noah. And giants persisted.

"And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living." - Genesis 3:20

#1 This truthful word was made before the flood.
#2 God preserved this truthful word thru Noah.
#3 God commanded the Israelites to wipe out the nephilim.
#4 God preserves this truthful word for the 1st Coming of Messiah = Born of a virgin.
#5 God preserves this truthful Today = 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.”

#6 God will judge all who violate this truthful word = Revelation 14:9-11

Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”

#7 God will Bless and protect for ALL ETERNITY those who refuse the Mark = Revelation

And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 5: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he(Adam) begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.


The Bible says to
"compare scripture with scripture" correct?
So if Adam was a "son of God" and he was around for "930 years" "begatting" sons and daughters (multiplying) wouldn't you say that Adam was around "when men BEGAN to multiply" ? So if he was around when they "began to multiply" (since he was one of those multiplying) then he would have had to be one of these "sons of God" since it says "THE sons of God saw the daughters"
and took the wives etc. So Adam would have had to be part of this bunch. Was Adam a fallen angel too? Of course not. Does it say "the sons of God, excluding Adam. took the wives...?

amen that’s a really good point it seems the Bible declares clearly that only mankind has this distinction in all of creation which is what brings e term sons of God into existance those made in his glory and image and likeness as children do mankind alone was designed to shine forth his character and nature on earth and rule in his name and ways as we will do in eternity

Man alone is designed at creation to be his children , and angels designed to be his heavenly spiritual servants who also interact for him on earth to minister to man for God like this even speaking for him in his name at times

“And when forty years were expired, there appeared to him in the wilderness of mount Sina an angel of the Lord in a flame of fire in a bush. When Moses saw it, he wondered at the sight: and as he drew near to behold it, the voice of the Lord came unto him, saying, I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭7:30-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬


There’s never an account calling any angel Gods son or saying they are created in his likeness and image but many explaining the clear difference in men and angels

“What is man, that thou art mindful of him? And the son of man, that thou visitest him? For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, And hast crowned him with glory and honour. Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; Thou hast put all things under his feet:”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭8:4

we can see mans place in creation by looking at Jesus The son of God is who we ( mankind ) are made to be from the beginning that’s our role in creation

“For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? Or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; Thou crownedst him with glory and honour, And didst set him over the works of thy hands: But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:5-7, 9-11, 14-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and angels also have tbier roles there are cherubim , serphim , and many other ordinations but all spiritual ministers to intervene for god to man until Christ came and became the intercessor

If we believe Christ is the son of God and that he was born in the flesh and blood then we know mankind are the sons of God that’s why he became a man d not an angel they are servants and spiritual ministers of heaven Hebrews really clarified the difference in men and angels

“hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, And he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, And his ministers a flame of fire.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1:2-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and how Christ was glorified as the son of man in heaven and ascended tonthe throne in heaven and not manifest as an angel at any point and given dominion nor any inheritance because they are not children but heavenly servants of God and ministers of spirit and fire sent to the hiers of salvstion who are the elect children from the beginning , mankind


Brother Aaron suggests a lot of good things regarding why the angels rebelled but I’m not sure of the scriptures saying it it sounds right to
Me though regarding what he was saying about why the angels rebelled

but clearly man is Gods children and the only ones ever called to be his children in all of scripture

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Eve was the mother of all living. After the flood, all humanity were descendants of Noah. And giants persisted.

But apparently not half-breeds.

 

[DavidTree]

Continued,

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

God warns the saints of the new age movement and their false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior but a good teacher and love and evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God but honor the God of forces or the power of nature as their higher power the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

That is why they teach evolution in school although they will say it was for a different reason but they only use that as an excuse to teach them evolution.

They will forbid a man and a woman from coming together for population reduction but they do not believe they have to keep the human race going on by birth for they are evolving to be spiritual in which they will live forever.

They push homosexuality in society and cause some people to be confused about their gender and even influence young children about their gender trying to ask them what gender they want to be and some teachers putting boys in dresses and one teacher of 2 years old put out a video bragging about how she was talking to the children with another teacher who was homosexual about gender and genitals.

They are preparing society for the coming system in which they have to be homosexual or do without sex which the last king, antichrist will have no desire of women.

They will stop the eating of meat for they reverence nature, mother earth.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The time will come when people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but want to hear it according to their own lusts to believe they are evolving to be spiritual and greater and there is no higher power above them which they will say I am and there is no one else beside me.

The new age movement is the cause of the world rebelling against God which they will influence the world all nations governments supporting it and they will not allow the teaching of anything contrary to the new age movement or it will be a hate crime and they will say it is not the truth and they want peace.

The Bible says that this false interpretation of the Bible will come out at the latter times the last days of the last days and close to Jesus coming back.

They believe Lucifer is a solar angel that descended from Venus to Earth eons ago to bring the principle of mind to the then animal-man and will help them to evolve in the future.

The new age movement believes the Christians have the wrong interpretation of the Bible and that Lucifer is a good god and Adonai, Yahweh God, is an imposter that does not want mankind to become gods.

It is the same lie Satan told Eve in the garden that if she ate the fruit she would become like a god.

And it is close to them producing the New Age Christ.

The new age movement believes that aliens are going to help mankind to have peace on earth and that there are aliens on earth right now to help mankind to have peace on earth.

There are many videos and articles of people saying they have proof of aliens.

They pose the question is God an alien as they will convince the world that God is an alien.

A man predicted that aliens will land on earth December 8, 2022, and they will keep pushing that aliens will help mankind to have peace on earth.

Scientists say that human are not of the earth so they are aliens and say we need to prepare for an alien encounter.

The occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers which they believe will give them more power through nature.

Which they are talking about angel numbers and the angel number 666 which they say is a good number according to the Cosmos and they are going to convince the world that if they embrace that number they will have the power to transition the world to a world of peace.

6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature to establish his kingdom and prosper.

It is the new age movement that is in control now and that is how they interpret the Bible now which the other religions have no problem with it for Jesus is not Lord and Savior but a good teacher and love and their religions are nature based.

The nations will come together as one to work for peace on earth and the Arab nations governments will go along with it but they will have a problem with the religion of Islam for they will say it is an insult to Allah and Islam and the world will clash with the Arab nations being bombed with nuclear weapons the 6th trumpet.

After the 6th trumpet God says the world will not repent of their sins and turn to Him and they turn to the New Age Christ as the solution to have peace on earth.

The 6 trumpets are warnings to the world to turn to God.

An example is WW1, did not turn to God, set up League of Nations.

WW2, did not turn to God, but set up United Nations.

The next step is the one world government which North Korea and the Ukraine war is a scare tactic to cause the world to come together to work for peace on earth for the fear that a nuclear attack could happen that could devastate the world.

The nations governments are working together but they will do not want the people to know that.

Republican and Democrat are actually working together but they do not want the people to know that.

They will go to a new form of government that is neither Republican or Democrat but a balance between democracy and communism which will mimic the one world government to come.

The one world religious system will be a balance between atheist and spirituality.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to have peace on earth and evolve until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth so they are working on that.

It is finally here after all these years the final scene in the history of mankind.

I have a word for you from the our LORD Jesus Christ.

Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6

Human reasoning upon the Holy Spirit inspired Scripture is the common error of religion/unbelief.

 

[TheLearner]

If thinking is going to be a requirement for posting, there will be far, far, far fewer posts.

 

[TheLearner]

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Jesus is sometimes described as a demigod, i.e. a singular amalgam of
human and divine.

But the Word isn't a singularity. He's actually a plurality, i.e. according to
John 1:1-3, John 1:14, 1Cor 15:45-47, and 1John 1:1-2, the Word exists as
an eternal spirit being whose origin is currently unknown, and as a temporal
material being whose origin can be easily traced from David all the way back
to the dust from which Adam was created, viz: the Word exists as a creator
and as a creation simultaneously.

This particular construct is unpopular among many of the Christians with
whom I've dialogued online the past 25 years. They're okay with Jesus as
fully God and fully Man, but not as one of two distinct individuals. They'd
rather Jesus be God and Man blended into one person.
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Huh? Please explain friend, brother.

 

[TheLearner]

start at #82

 

[Magenta]

But apparently not half-breeds.

Half breeds? Could you please clarify?

 

[DavidTree]

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Genesis 5: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he(Adam) begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.


The Bible says to
"compare scripture with scripture" correct?
So if Adam was a "son of God" and he was around for "930 years" "begatting" sons and daughters (multiplying) wouldn't you say that Adam was around "when men BEGAN to multiply" ? So if he was around when they "began to multiply" (since he was one of those multiplying) then he would have had to be one of these "sons of God" since it says "THE sons of God saw the daughters"
and took the wives etc. So Adam would have had to be part of this bunch. Was Adam a fallen angel too? Of course not. Does it say "the sons of God, excluding Adam. took the wives...?

Absolutely not.

Follow the scripture not your own understanding.

Only Adam was a son of God because Adam was directly created by God and he was sinless.

The children of Adam are sons of man = conceived in sin.

God clearly states this in Genesis
Genesis 6:1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

key word = "men"
next key word = "daughters" = born from "men"
next key word/phrase = "sons of God"

CLEAR distinction by the HOLY SPIRIT

CONFIRMED by the HOLY SPIRIT = Jude

But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels(sons of God) who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

the HOLY SPIRIT confirmed that angels are sons of God = Job chapters 1 & 2

the LORD Jesus Christ confirmed that angels are sons of God = Luke 20:34-36

Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

Everyone needs to fear God and turn from self inflicted error on this subject = for you are changing God's word to satisfy your own flawed understanding.

Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.
Proverbs 30:5-6

 

[Webers.Home]

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Please explain

The Word's plurality would be very easy to explain if only Jesus were similar
to one of James Cameron's genetically engineered organisms, a.k.a. Avatars;
for example when Jehovah visited Abraham per the 18th chapter of Genesis.
My mind can cope with an Avatar, but is totally baffled when what appears
to be an Avatar instead turns out to be an honest to gosh sentient being with
a mind of its own.
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[Diakonos]

I appreciate your reply. But how did they do it? Do they possess an ability to change themselves? Angels were the initial transformers?
It seems more likely that leaving their first estate means their sinless estate and the explanation you shared is an explanation looking for a doctrine.

The Greek for "first estate" refers to the heavenly body (cf. 2 Cor 15:2).