Which one has the Power to Save

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Which one has the Power to Save?

  • “Faith Alone”.

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  • “Scripture Alone”.

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#21
No. We should not. Its nonsense. And as we see in posts 10& 11. These threads are a trojan horse bringing insult and false accusation.
So many people of CC are so high minded thinking that they know the truth and try to shut down anyone who contradicts them not realizing that as a Christian your job is to present the truth and let God do the conversion. I don't know why people call presenting truth through scripture an argument.
 

Inquisitor

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#22
“Faith Alone”/“Scripture Alone”/”Jesus Christ Alone”?
Colossians 1:22
He has now reconciled you in His body of flesh through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach.

Jesus is solely responsible for that gift of salvation being offered to us.

Jesus reconciled us and we cannot contribute to that redemptive act of the Christ.
 

RaceRunner

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#23
What do people claim? What does Scripture tell you?
1 Timothy 6:3
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness,

John 6:54
Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
 

RaceRunner

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#24
There is God (none come to the Father except through the Son), there is the relationship between God and you (faith), and there is the scripture that points toward how to build that relationship, like a blueprint, a roadmap, or a lattice.

None of them really exist in isolation when we're talking about salvation. And like some of your other poll threads, I suspect you are trying to build toward a criticism of some concepts taken out of context.
Why don't you just believe Jesus Christ alone?
 

Dino246

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#25
1 Timothy 6:3
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to that doctrine which is according to godliness,


John 6:54
Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
So, if you have your answer from Scripture, why are you asking strangers on this forum?
 

Pilgrimshope

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“Faith Alone”/“Scripture Alone”/”Jesus Christ Alone”?
“These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: as thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:1-6‬ ‭

“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

ForestGreenCook

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“Faith Alone”/“Scripture Alone”/”Jesus Christ Alone”?

If you are referring to eternal salvation (deliverance), it would be Christ alone, which he accomplished for those that his Father gave to him on the cross by redeeming them from their sins and securing them an inheritance in heaven.

If you are referring to a deliverance for the born again as they sojourn here on earth, that would be our good works motivated by our faith in God.
 

Blik

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#29
It is the Father who gives salvation through Christ.

John 14:5: Lord, said Thomas, “we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. No one comes to the Father except through Christ.

We are saved through what Christ did for us, it is the Father who gives the grace of salvation.

Romans 5:2 through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of the glory of God.

Ephesians 2:18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.

Hebrews 9:8 e Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing,
 

Adstar

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Do you not believe Jesus Christ alone?
If Scripture is eliminated then what are you believing if you believe Jesus... You see between human being for one to believe the other.. The Other must first share a statement / positon / teaching/ belief.. Then you have something to believe or disbelieve..

So the foundation of the question was silly.. If you exclude scripture and say salvation is only by believing Jesus then you have nothing to believe because you have eliminated all His teachings..
 

RaceRunner

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If Scripture is eliminated then what are you believing if you believe Jesus... You see between human being for one to believe the other.. The Other must first share a statement / positon / teaching/ belief.. Then you have something to believe or disbelieve..

So the foundation of the question was silly.. If you exclude scripture and say salvation is only by believing Jesus then you have nothing to believe because you have eliminated all His teachings..
Jesus Christ alone has the power to save.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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#32
If Scripture is eliminated then what are you believing if you believe Jesus... You see between human being for one to believe the other.. The Other must first share a statement / positon / teaching/ belief.. Then you have something to believe or disbelieve..

So the foundation of the question was silly.. If you exclude scripture and say salvation is only by believing Jesus then you have nothing to believe because you have eliminated all His teachings..
All the 5 sola statements go hand in hand.
If one leave out Christ alone, then he adds to Christ; pehaps popes and saints and priests or pagan false deities.
If one leave out Scripture alone, then by what teaching is Christ preached, and one may add the philosophies of men and wrong understandings of Christ, who he is and what he taught.
If one leave out Grace alone, one may believe that by works that he may make God into a debtor who owes him salvation due to merit.
If one leave out Faith alone, one may add that altering behavior or deprivation, and asceticism.
If one were to leave out God's alone, we may think we are something good that is worth saving
 

RaceRunner

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#34
That passage does not indicate mutual exclusion. It indicates a necessary component of salvation.
Neither is there salvation in any other (JESUS CHRIST).
 
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#35
Neither is there salvation in any other (JESUS CHRIST).
"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 KJV

I think we all agree that Jesus alone is the Door. But faith alone is the means we have to walk through the door. And by scripture by itself one can find the road-map to finding that door.

None of what I said in this post contradicts Acts 4:12.

If you had instead asked "What is the one name under heaven that has the power to save?", the answer would have of course been "Jesus' alone"

Properly explaining the context of your question can run into the trouble of having misunderstandings. It's entirely possible to be completely on the same page but appear to disagree because there has been a miscommunication or misunderstanding.
 

RaceRunner

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"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." - Acts 4:12 KJV

I think we all agree that Jesus alone is the Door. But faith alone is the means we have to walk through the door. And by scripture by itself one can find the road-map to finding that door.

None of what I said in this post contradicts Acts 4:12.

If you had instead asked "What is the one name under heaven that has the power to save?", the answer would have of course been "Jesus' alone"

Properly explaining the context of your question can run into the trouble of having misunderstandings. It's entirely possible to be completely on the same page but appear to disagree because there has been a miscommunication or misunderstanding.
All of us who voted understand perfectly that Jesus Christ alone has the power to save. :D
 

RaceRunner

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Why do you believe something other than "Jesus Christ alone" has the power to save?

Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved.