“Ecumenism”

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“Ecumenism” as defined is

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RaceRunner

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The principle or aim of promoting unity among the world's Christian Churches.
 

ResidentAlien

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I don't know if it's denominational or nondenominational but I know it when I see it.
 

ZNP

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The principle or aim of promoting unity among the world's Christian Churches.
The principal aim is to put all Christians under the authority of the Pope and it has grown to become Chrislam, which has united Christians (headed by the pope) with Jews and Muslims. https://astanatimes.com/2022/09/dec...e-leaders-of-world-and-traditional-religions/ I would point out that Kazakhstan is where Moloch and Baal worship is thought to be centered.

See the Abrahamic family house -- https://www.forhumanfraternity.org/abrahamic-family-house/

They are also trying to outlaw all non monotheistic religions and in that group they include Evangelical Christians who say that Jesus is Lord. Saying that Jesus is the only way to the Father is a problem if you want to unite Jews and Muslims with the Pope. They argue using the Noahide laws that this violates God being one. https://www.un.org/ecosoc/sites/www...t-oral-statment-institute-of-noahide-code.pdf
 
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I support Ecumenism. It is a Beautiful Spirit-Led Movement toward Christian Unity. Ecumenism is firstly only between (1) Baptized Trinitarian Christians and (2) those who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and Son of God, etc, which the Bible says no one can do without the Holy Spirit; Ecumenism also does not mean either doctrinal indifference nor some kind of absorption into a mega-Church. Rather, it means that, through prayer, through theological discussions etc, among Bishops, Priest and Pastors, and so on, with Christian Charity, the Churches gradually walk together on the path toward full re-union.

For the Catholic Church, Vatican II's Unitatis Redeintegratio ("Restoration of Unity") said this: "1. The restoration of unity among all Christians is one of the principal concerns of the Second Vatican Council. Christ the Lord founded one Church and one Church only. However, many Christian communions present themselves to men as the true inheritors of Jesus Christ; all indeed profess to be followers of the Lord but differ in mind and go their different ways, as if Christ Himself were divided.(1) Such division openly contradicts the will of Christ, scandalizes the world, and damages the holy cause of preaching the Gospel to every creature.

But the Lord of Ages wisely and patiently follows out the plan of grace on our behalf, sinners that we are. In recent times more than ever before, He has been rousing divided Christians to remorse over their divisions and to a longing for unity. Everywhere large numbers have felt the impulse of this grace, and among our separated brethren also there increases from day to day the movement, fostered by the grace of the Holy Spirit, for the restoration of unity among all Christians. This movement toward unity is called "ecumenical." Those belong to it who invoke the Triune God and confess Jesus as Lord and Savior, doing this not merely as individuals but also as corporate bodies. For almost everyone regards the body in which he has heard the Gospel as his Church and indeed, God's Church. All however, though in different ways, long for the one visible Church of God, a Church truly universal and set forth into the world that the world may be converted to the Gospel and so be saved, to the glory of God." https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist...ecree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html

Islam is not included in this, despite what some say, since they don't confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, nor are Baptized and Trinitarians. But Muslims are monotheists though and profess to worship the God of Abraham, just like the Jews. What applies to Jews, Muslims etc is called "inter-faith dialogue" and substantially different from Ecumenism itself.

Jews and Muslims have an advantage over Hindus, most of whom are polytheists, and Buddhists, most of whom don't believe in a personal God. But of course, all Jews, Muslims, Buddhists and Hindus can only be saved by faith in Jesus Christ.

The Catholic Catechism says on that: "161 Believing in Jesus Christ and in the One who sent him for our salvation is necessary for obtaining that salvation. "Since "without faith it is impossible to please [God]" and to attain to the fellowship of his sons, therefore without faith no one has ever attained justification, nor will anyone obtain eternal life 'But he who endures to the end.'" Taken from: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/161.htm So it is clear Muslims etc are not saved.

God Bless.
 

arthurfleminger

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Jesus prayed that all His followers, His Church, be one with each other. That's what Ecumenism expounds.

It might be time and a great idea for all Christians and Christian churches to share their fellowship and the beliefs they have in common instead of focusing on their disagreements.

Animosity among Christian churches and Christians has accomplished nothing but more division.
 

ZNP

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Jesus prayed that all His followers, His Church, be one with each other. That's what Ecumenism expounds.

It might be time and a great idea for all Christians and Christian churches to share their fellowship and the beliefs they have in common instead of focusing on their disagreements.

Animosity among Christian churches and Christians has accomplished nothing but more division.
The church is a lampstand with seven lamps. What makes us one are the things Paul listed in Ephesians. It is made of pure, beaten gold. We are not one with anyone who rejects the word of God as the authority. They don't take away from the word and they don't add to the word. The church does not compromise with sin. Rebellion against the word of God is sin.

The Catholic church has added a lot to the word of God and they also reject quite a bit from the word of God. Not going to compromise with them. The same is true of other denominations that embrace the ecumenical movement.
 

ResidentAlien

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Christian unity is good; however, unity with so-called Christians simply for the sake of unity is a recipe for disaster. It's coming though and has been for a log time; we've been warned and shouldn't be surprised.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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The principle or aim of promoting unity among the world's Christian Churches.
IF this is "unity of churches with love, But Disregarding
Sound Doctrine," then I would RUN quickly and far from
it! And RUN to God's Word Of TRUTH!:

1Ti_1:10
For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves
with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured
persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary
to sound doctrine;

2Ti_4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure
sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap
to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Tit_1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught,
that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to
convince the gainsayers.

Tit_2:1 But speak thou the things which become
sound doctrine:

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided
(+ I and II).

Grace, Peace, And JOY!...
 

Dino246

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Another meaningless question from under the bridge.
 

ResidentAlien

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If you want a picture of Ecumenism, it looks like this. Bergolio looks like he's afraid of catching something from the two guys touching him.


 

wattie

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The principle or aim of promoting unity among the world's Christian Churches.
Ecumenism shouldn't really be persued.

Unity in each local church is the biblical precedent.. not across every believer.

What is watered down in the name of Ecumenism? Much!

Keeping a pure faith is with the local church you are in.
 

Blade

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Pffft another word I had to look up haha and its a *ism. At the start I would agree we need to work together. Those that say Yeshua Jesus Christ came in the flesh. That is a spirit we can know is of God. Any spirit that does not say Christ came in the flesh is not of God. We tend to ADD to the word of God. Then its anyone that does not have the same "doctrine" as we do are not of God. Then we truly don't look at it. Well its us saying knowing we are right and lol duh they are wrong.

Take the picture someone posted here. What is left out is ALL of them do not agree on each others doctrine. What do we expect from God if we are the ones telling Him who we will follow or believe? From what I read OT NT yeah.. He seems to use someone we never liked someone that we knew was not of God yet was fully of God. Not always but oh man haha does He do this.

HAHA if Christ is the head.. then who then are all those branches? Just ones like you? Ooh what if they are mostly the same yet your the odd branch? No.. just branches where ALL get life from the vine Christ Jesus.
 

SomeDisciple

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Looks like a lot of us are united on the idea of being divided for the sake of the truth... That's something. :)
 

ZNP

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Looks like a lot of us are united on the idea of being divided for the sake of the truth... That's something. :)
The one world religion will be united against Evangelical Christians who say that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by Jesus.
 

RaceRunner

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The one world religion will be united against Evangelical Christians who say that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by Jesus.
Are these Evangelical Christians you are referring to non-denominational or denominational?
 

ZNP

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Are these Evangelical Christians you are referring to non-denominational or denominational?
Evangelical refers to those who believe that Jesus is the way to the Father and apart from Him no one comes to the Father.

This is diametrically opposed to Islam and Judaism which are uniting with Catholicism which wants to unite these three into one world religion.

To unite they want to adopt the Noahide laws which focus on a monotheistic God and which they interpret as meaning that saying Jesus is God is blasphemy.

There are people who claim to be Christian who are willing to compromise on this for the sake of the ecumenical movement. It is the ultimate false prophet denying the Lord who bought us.
 

RaceRunner

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Evangelical refers to those who believe that Jesus is the way to the Father and apart from Him no one comes to the Father.

This is diametrically opposed to Islam and Judaism which are uniting with Catholicism which wants to unite these three into one world religion.

To unite they want to adopt the Noahide laws which focus on a monotheistic God and which they interpret as meaning that saying Jesus is God is blasphemy.

There are people who claim to be Christian who are willing to compromise on this for the sake of the ecumenical movement. It is the ultimate false prophet denying the Lord who bought us.
Are these Evangelical Christians non-denominational or denominational?