Alex Jones lays the smack down

[Dude653]

here is a challenge for you-

inforwars has a story today about an austrailian bank that monitors and tracks the " carbon footprints" of it's customers.

now, you do your own research on that, what ever sources you want, and see if it is a bat____ conspiracy theory or not.

A broken clock is right twice a day

 

[gb9]

You can apologize until the proverbial cows come home but apologizing doesn't allow you to escape accountability.
If you punch me in the face, you can apologize but I'm still pressing charges and suing.
I know accountability is kryptonite for you Alex Jones fans

did you miss the part where i said " he should have to pay some damages" ??

 

[Dude653]

did you miss the part where i said " he should have to pay some damages" ??

You miss the part where he profited off of slandering and defaming these grieving families?
Also he really didn't apologize because he contradicted himself in his own "apology"
He said IF it really happened that I'm sorry for the families and then he went on to talk about how he still thinks they were crisis actors.
The fact that he showed zero remorse in court, his blatant disregard for the courts authority.
Turns out juries don't like defendants who don't show remorse
Alex Jones is a sociopath and he deserves every negative thing that comes his way

 

[Dude653]

Another thing he keeps claiming it's a "kangaroo court", when what really happened was he thought he was above the law and didn't have to comply with Discovery
Turns out, judges don't like it when you ignore a court order so she issued a default judgment against him.
And after what he did to these families, he still pretending to be the victim. This is what a narcissist does

 

[Polar]

Everyone thinks they are woke after having read 1984.
It's just confirmation bias for conspiracy nuts

so much time wasted on this type of thing IMO

seems no one changes anything.

 

[Polar]

as a Christian , we are to forgive.

alex made a mistake, admitted that mistake, apologized for that mistake.

so, it would have been reasonable for him to pay some damages.

but, millions and millions of $ for people most of whom he never said their names is ridiculous.

and dude, if you listen to him and the guests he has on his shows, you would learn infowars is correct about 80% of the time.

is Alex a Christian?

are all those parents Christians?

seriously?

80% is not 100%

The Bible is right 100% of the time and as Christians, we should better spend our time leaving deception rather than supporting it

 

[Polar]

I think these trials are a travesty and an offense against free speech.

Alex Jones has the right to bloviate and prove himself an ignoramus.

Those who supposedly threatened,assaulted,vandalized, these grieving parents are the ones who should be prosecuted and died for their actions.

I think this is all staged to move us closer to an oppressed limited way of life.

I also think Jones is a government tool to propagate disinformation so people will relegate real government conspiracy practices to the same vein.

I can't even smh

Coffee moment: oppressed limited way of life? torturing the already tortured parents of the murdered children is what then? An open and free way of life?

please reconsider what you have said here

the whole thing is a tragic mess and if the being held to account makes even one person think twice before spouting off without consideration for others...all in the name of more money...then it meant something

as it is, no amount of money is bringing anyone back from the dead

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

You are welcome, H&H... I hope your dad is okay. It sounds like his has hemorrhaged! My
daughter's has not. Currently it shows up on a scan as a 2mm vascular bump in her optical
area. She has told me some stats about these things, but I forget a lot of it I do recall
that she said something like 4% of people have aneurysms, but it is likely that most will
never know this about themselves unless it bursts, and they survive it. Because my brother
survived such a serious hemorrhage, a research team has contacted him due to his relation
to my daughter (as her uncle) to be part of their control group, though it is normally only
direct relations (such as her dad) that would be of interest to them. Blessings to you and yours!

Dad's eyes had that happen fairly often, so I insisted he get off the drugs that were damaging his heart and blood vessel integrity. Dad agreed and we properly switched from a life threatening drug based model to my health based method. He got a British Berkefeld Water Purifier, and increased his water schedule. Then he used the ingredients that God made to deal with his challenges. He quit having frequent nose bleeds and eye bleeds and perhaps other bleeds in the skull that nobody can see. His other problems reversed.
I noticed that his Drs didn't care about him, his nose bless that wouldn't stop or risk of strokes. They go by the drug books, like the PDR Physicians Desk Reference and hospital protocols for increasing profits. I followed and trained under some physicians that took issue with that, so Dad was able to live many more years.

 

[Dude653]

I can't even smh

Coffee moment: oppressed limited way of life? torturing the already tortured parents of the murdered children is what then? An open and free way of life?

please reconsider what you have said here

the whole thing is a tragic mess and if the being held to account makes even one person think twice before spouting off without consideration for others...all in the name of more money...then it meant something

as it is, no amount of money is bringing anyone back from the dead

As someone who knows first hand the pain of losing a child, it just makes me sick at my stomach to sit here and watch people have more empathy for Alex Jones then the families who lost their children

 

[Magenta]

Dad's eyes had that happen fairly often, so I insisted he get off the drugs that were thinning his blood vessels, damaging his heart and over thinning his blood. He got a British Berkefeld Water Purifier, and increased his water schedule. Then he used the medicines that God made to deal with his challenges. He quit having frequent nose bleeds and eye bleeds and perhaps other bleeds in the skull that nobody can see.
I noticed that his Drs didn't care about him, his nose bless that wouldn't stop or risk of strokes. They go by the drug books, like the PDR Physicians Desk Reference and hospital protocols for increasing profits. I followed and trained under some physicians that took issue with that, so Dad was able to live many more years.

Oh, H&H, that sounds so very serious that he was bleeding from so many places so frequently. I am glad he took your advice and is better now. I worked my entire adult life to the age of 65 in one industry, but alternative healing was something I considered leaving it for, and I may have in the late 80s if our government was not being so stupid at the time, threatening to remove vitamin C from our store shelves, and making it necessary for us to go to a doctor to get a prescription for it. Yes, it was the evil multinational pharmaceutical drug companies that were behind it all, but thankfully so many people protested the proposed changes that they relented. I collected over 70 signatures. Here when we are hospitalized they give us our required meds for free. In the last two years I have been hospitalized at least five times for a grand total equalling around 35 days. That would have financially ruined me elsewhere. Thank God for Tommy Douglas!

 

[Polar]

As someone who knows first hand the pain of losing a child, it just makes me sick at my stomach to sit here and watch people have more empathy for Alex Jones then the families who lost their children

Yes Dude. I remember you lost your son. Personally, I take exception to being told Christians forgive. I guess then we just let all criminals out and forgive 'em.

this is not a Theocracy and if you are of the world, as is Jones (please no one try to tell me he is a Christian.) you are dealt with as the world deals.

Frankly, mixing a little Christianity in with sinful actions and saying forgive, results in a false gospel. We can forgive someone for what they do to us, but they are still accountable to God.

 

[Dude653]

Yes Dude. I remember you lost your son. Personally, I take exception to being told Christians forgive. I guess then we just let all criminals out and forgive 'em.

this is not a Theocracy and if you are of the world, as is Jones (please no one try to tell me he is a Christian.) you are dealt with as the world deals.

Frankly, mixing a little Christianity in with sinful actions and saying forgive, results in a false gospel. We can forgive someone for what they do to us, but they are still accountable to God.

Exactly my point. Nowhere in the Bible does it say forgiving someone absolves them of accountability.
The fact that they think The grieving families are supposed to just forgive and forget after what this monster did to them is a testament to their lack of empathy and then they have the audacity to try to lecture people on morality

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Oh, H&H, that sounds so very serious that he was bleeding from so many places so frequently. I am glad he took your advice and is better now. I worked my entire adult life to the age of 65 in one industry, but alternative healing was something I considered leaving it for, and I may have in the late 80s if our government was not being so stupid at the time, threatening to remove vitamin C from our store shelves, and making it necessary for us to go to a doctor to get a prescription for it. Yes, it was the evil multinational pharmaceutical drug companies that were behind it all, but thankfully so many people protested the proposed changes that they relented. I collected over 70 signatures. Here when we are hospitalized they give us our required meds for free. In the last two years I have been hospitalized at least five times for a grand total equalling around 35 days. That would have financially ruined me elsewhere. Thank God for Tommy Douglas!

I'm very glad that you have come through those Job-like tests. That's truly miraculous.

The fact that they make you get a prescription for something God gave for free shows us who and what is behind their policies. I'm so happy that you took steps to fight that tyranny. Sometime I'll tell you more of Dad, maybe off the air, because they have banned freedom of speech in many countries.
That's what that Alex Jones ordeal is really about. The devil's are quickly moving that direction to ban and control every freedom God has provided.

 

[Genipher]

Yes Dude. I remember you lost your son. Personally, I take exception to being told Christians forgive. I guess then we just let all criminals out and forgive 'em.

this is not a Theocracy and if you are of the world, as is Jones (please no one try to tell me he is a Christian.) you are dealt with as the world deals.

Frankly, mixing a little Christianity in with sinful actions and saying forgive, results in a false gospel. We can forgive someone for what they do to us, but they are still accountable to God.

I think people get confused and think forgiving someone means letting them off the hook. We can forgive but not trust that person again. I agree we can forgive still hold that person accountable for their actions.

 

[Dude653]

Those of you screaming forgiveness, go to the families of the people who lost their children and tell them they should forgive Alex Jones to what he said about them. I bet you won't do it.
. The reason the ideology of obligatory forgiveness is inherently immoral is because it places more imports on the perpetrator than the victims

 

[Dude653]

Also the 13th chapter of Romans where it talks about being subject to the authority of the law
While defamation is not a criminal offense there are civil laws against it and you will be held accountable

 

[Eli1]

To test if This concept of forgiving is genuine, ask a Christian to forgive Joe Biden or some extreme leftist for example and see how forgiving they are.

 

[Runningman]

I know I've already said this a million times on this forum but he's a grifter who profits off of pedaling bat poop crazy conspiracy theories and false information.

Maybe it happened to be true, but conspiracy theories and false information are free speech. We can see this in the mainstream media as well. It isn't isolated to Jones. The common denominator is he isn't saying the right things and he's disliked by the right people. Notice that those who pedal acceptable theories are not noticed until they start challenging official narratives, such as Sandyhook for example.

For him to use his platform to profit off of slander and grieving families is despicable

I don't watch his show, but I don't believe that's his premise. If it is then I agree with you. Again, I don't see he's any different than CNN or Fox News. They do the exact same things.

and I hope he rots in hell.

I don't hope that. Matthew 10:28 says to fear God because He can destroy both soul and body in hell. I don't think it'll be a cakewalk or instantaneous destruction. I believe we should try to save people from "hell" which is sometimes a word for the grave, but other times a literal afterlife place of departed souls.

It seems some people have more empathy for Jones then the families who lost their children and it's sickening.
Especially people who profess to be Christians and think it's okay to lie and defame people.

I'm sorry if you have ever experienced the loss of a child or a loved one. I've experienced it many times, my heart broke, and my tears fell like rain. Truly a difficult experience. I hope no Christians believe it's okay to lie.

 

[Dude653]

To test if This concept of forgiving is genuine, ask a Christian to forgive Joe Biden or some extreme leftist for example and see how forgiving they are.

Funny how they demand accountability for everyone except their own

 

[Genipher]

Those of you screaming forgiveness, go to the families of the people who lost their children and tell them they should forgive Alex Jones to what he said about them. I bet you won't do it.
. The reason the ideology of obligatory forgiveness is inherently immoral is because it places more imports on the perpetrator than the victims

Well, an Amish community forgave a killer that shot up their school some years back so it's not impossible or unheard of.

Since the tragedy, people around the world have been inspired by the way the Amish expressed forgiveness toward the killer and his family. But while their acts of forgiveness were inspiring, they also caused a misperception that the Amish had quickly gotten over the tragedy.
https://www.npr.org/2007/10/02/14900930/amish-forgive-school-shooter-struggle-with-grief

I think forgiveness is more a choice than a feeling, as Corrie Ten Boom related when speaking of meeting the German guard that had imprisoned her during WW2:

Even as the angry, vengeful thoughts boiled through me, I saw the sin of them. Jesus Christ had died for this man; was I going to ask for more? Lord Jesus, I prayed, forgive me and help me to forgive him.

I tried to smile, I struggled to raise my hand. I could not. I felt nothing, not the slightest spark of warmth or charity. And so again I breathed a silent prayer. Jesus, I cannot forgive him. Give me your forgiveness.

As I took his hand the most incredible thing happened. From my shoulder along my arm and through my hand a current seemed to pass from me to him, while into my heart sprang a love for this stranger that almost overwhelmed me.

And so I discovered that it is not on our forgiveness any more than on our goodness that the world’s healing hinges, but on his. When he tells us to love our enemies, He gives, along with the command, the love itself.”
https://ca.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-forgiveness-of-corrie-ten-boom/

I'm kinda shocked that you're saying obligatory forgiveness is immoral when so many times in the Bible we're told to do so. Our sins put Jesus on the cross. We essentially killed him, yet He has forgiven us. Shouldn't we do the same for others, no matter how they wrong us?