Can We be Saved if We Don't Love God/Jesus?

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Nov 23, 2021
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That makes no sense.
You are saved when not loving God or keeping His commandments. You are saved by His Blood from the wrath of God that does not apply until you believe . You were His enemy you walked according to the the lusts of your flesh and were led captive by the devil to do his will, not Gods. You had no ability to love God until reconciliation. When you were reconciled, if you were , the Spirit of God took residence up inside you , if He did. Then He shed abroad the love of God in your heart and and began working in you to will and to do . We are not saved by loving Jesus or keeping His commands. We are saved by unmerited favor at Christs expense . We maintain our relationship by confessing and forsaking By His keeping of the commandments of God and loving Him and us. Not visa versa. He reconciled us to himself because Christ lived a sinless life. You have come to him. Now if the Spirit of Him that raised Christ from the dead dwells in you , you are now in a covenant relationship and you will grow from a baby to a mature Christian . Put it this way , not by might nor by power but by my spirit saith , the Lord. The indwelling Spirit of God is He who loves others and God not you . You can do nothing apart from Jesus. " Apart from me you can do nothing". This is why the way to relationship with God deals with forsaking your self-effort in being accepted or pleasing God in any other way than Trusting Him. That's it . Believe His word. Act upon it . That is faith . That is the obedience of faith . That is Obey my Voice. That is covenant . Highlight IF in John 14, 15 and 16. He that believes He that believes not. But salvation is when we are imputed the righteousness of God. Not before and most definately not after. After, if and man sins we have and advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous. I go to Jesus and confess that I have backslidden lost my first love, etc. I am walking in the light as He is in the light. The Holy Spirit drawing me because His Spirit within me crys Abba Father . He is absolutely committed to my salvation , but it will never be because I did something apart from Him. The love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who is given to us. And it is God who works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure, enabling us to those things which He requires. Trust. A vine branch thing. We don't do it without Him it is supernatural we do it because of Him , with Him . We trust in Christs finished work on the cross where He died and we died, and by His resurrection from the dead . That is the message. Christ died , was buried and rose the third day . This is the Gospel this is the power of God to salvation the message which when believed reconciles us and saves us. We are reconciled and enabled to walk with Him. " He hath shewn thee o man what is good and what does the Lord require of thee but to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God. " We keep our hearts with all diligence lest we be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin but the love is His. Apart from Him we can do nothing.
 
Oct 19, 2022
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You are saved when not loving God or keeping His commandments. You are saved by His Blood from the wrath of God that does not apply until you believe . You were His enemy you walked according to the the lusts of your flesh and were led captive by the devil to do his will, not Gods. You had no ability to love God until reconciliation. When you were reconciled, if you were , the Spirit of God took residence up inside you , if He did. Then He shed abroad the love of God in your heart and and began working in you to will and to do . We are not saved by loving Jesus or keeping His commands. We are saved by unmerited favor at Christs expense . We maintain our relationship by confessing and forsaking By His keeping of the commandments of God and loving Him and us. Not visa versa. He reconciled us to himself because Christ lived a sinless life. You have come to him. Now if the Spirit of Him that raised Christ from the dead dwells in you , you are now in a covenant relationship and you will grow from a baby to a mature Christian . Put it this way , not by might nor by power but by my spirit saith , the Lord. The indwelling Spirit of God is He who loves others and God not you . You can do nothing apart from Jesus. " Apart from me you can do nothing". This is why the way to relationship with God deals with forsaking your self-effort in being accepted or pleasing God in any other way than Trusting Him. That's it . Believe His word. Act upon it . That is faith . That is the obedience of faith . That is Obey my Voice. That is covenant . Highlight IF in John 14, 15 and 16. He that believes He that believes not. But salvation is when we are imputed the righteousness of God. Not before and most definately not after. After, if and man sins we have and advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous. I go to Jesus and confess that I have backslidden lost my first love, etc. I am walking in the light as He is in the light. The Holy Spirit drawing me because His Spirit within me crys Abba Father . He is absolutely committed to my salvation , but it will never be because I did something apart from Him. The love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who is given to us. And it is God who works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure, enabling us to those things which He requires. Trust. A vine branch thing. We don't do it without Him it is supernatural we do it because of Him , with Him . We trust in Christs finished work on the cross where He died and we died, and by His resurrection from the dead . That is the message. Christ died , was buried and rose the third day . This is the Gospel this is the power of God to salvation the message which when believed reconciles us and saves us. We are reconciled and enabled to walk with Him. " He hath shewn thee o man what is good and what does the Lord require of thee but to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with thy God. " We keep our hearts with all diligence lest we be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin but the love is His. Apart from Him we can do nothing.
Have you read that which John wrote saying; "And here is how we know that we know Jesus, if we keep his commandments. He that says 'I know Jesus' but keeps not his commands is a liar and the truth is not in him."?
 
Nov 23, 2021
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Have you read that which John wrote saying; "And here is how we know that we know Jesus, if we keep his commandments. He that says 'I know Jesus' but keeps not his commands is a liar and the truth is not in him."?
And just how are you going to keep his commandments apart from Christ working in you ? Christ will enable you to keep His Commandments the idea is you surrender your plans for Gods plan for your life. You don't keep your plans or your will . You surrender to God and His purpose and calling on your life. He will help you love and bear fruit. But without him you can do nothing . I suggest you reconsider , that you do not nor will have anything that you do not receive from the The Lord. His Blood applied to your soul or lost. Good night Salt.
 
Oct 19, 2022
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And just how are you going to keep his commandments apart from Christ working in you ? Christ will enable you to keep His Commandments the idea is you surrender your plans for Gods plan for your life. You don't keep your plans or your will . You surrender to God and His purpose and calling on your life. He will help you love and bear fruit. But without him you can do nothing . I suggest you reconsider , that you do not nor will have anything that you do not receive from the The Lord. His Blood applied to your soul or lost. Good night Salt.
Have you read that which David wrote saying; "I delight to do your will, oh my God, thy law is within my heart."?