The second coming of Jesus

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soberxp

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Very interesting, 521 and Jesus 521. I was just on this chat site talking of how water in oceans and lakes affect earthquakes.
It seems that heroes think alike,LOL.

The tsunami and earthquake at Fukushima Nuclear Power Station are also related to the sea and water. Because the ice in the North and South Poles melts, that place happens to be the place where the ocean current converges. Later, an earthquake occurred in South America, the same place where the ocean current converges. After the geological structure is stabilized, the same situation will not happen again.
 
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It seems that heroes think alike,LOL.

The tsunami and earthquake at Fukushima Nuclear Power Station are also related to the sea and water. Because the ice in the North and South Poles melts, that place happens to be the place where the ocean current converges. Later, an earthquake occurred in South America, the same place where the ocean current converges. After the geological structure is stabilized, the same situation will not happen again.
I think I posted an article from (MSN) microsoft news that mentions a newly discovered aquifer which the size of an ocean. I will see if I can find it and post it to you later or next day.
 

soberxp

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I think I posted an article from (MSN) microsoft news that mentions a newly discovered aquifer which the size of an ocean. I will see if I can find it and post it to you later or next day.
So thank you, so where is the water?

When I started to observe and think about the Wenchuan earthquake, the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami broadened my thinking. Then I predicted that there might be an earthquake in South America. After waiting for a while, the place in South America really had an earthquake. So I think my theory is correct. The water pressure affects the geological structure, and the ocean current generated by the earth's rotation is generally the mechanical principle.
During that time, I thought about many things, including Jesus Christ about earthquake.

I even heard people in the South American earthquake area scold me as a fool in the heaven?
 

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Were you able to see the Milky Way? At least that is the way I heard it referred to when you are in the mountains and the sky has thousands of stars.
The Good Lord allowed me to go and camp in the Rockies summers and part of a fallll three years running in order to read the Word for the first of many, many times, and to share It with all who would hear me.
I was able to see the Milky Way, and all the constellations visible during thos months.
I would see the forest and all of the nature and land, and it was a gift always. Humming birds would come to me in the mornings and buzz right in front of my nose as if to say good morning. A porcupin came to bisit me, and though I had seen many in nature films, I was almost shocked by the size of that crittter. He did not seem to be afraid. With all those quills it is no small wonder.
The Lord allowed me miracles of healing, knowledge and one strange one where a perwon with whom I had been sharring the Word heard me speaking of the Holy Spirit far awaqy from whre I was sleeping away in my usual camp site. That is our Maker for you. He moves us in many ways in order for His works to be displayed. All love in Jesus sYeshua and blessings too.
 

soberxp

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Yes, when I saw the South American earthquake news on TV, a man on a medical stretcher that I saw him speak a sentence, and then I heard the sentence: "Fool." yes, I heard a person on TV and the TV news is not live and he speak Chinese, "goofy", seemingly speaking to me, as it came from heaven.
 
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Stephen Hawkins is heathen, yes hes very intelligent, but his big bang theory is absolute nonsense. He doesn't believe in God. Isaiah 34:2. For the indignation of the Lord is upon all nations., and His fury upon all their armies: He have utterly destroyed them, He hath delivered them to slaughter. Let's understand. Jesus is coming 7th trump to fulfill day of vengeance. The cup of wrath is coming on the wicked. At this moment, every one is changed from their flesh body to their spiritual body. Were in different Dimension. And the fly away doctrine is lie. The millennium starts at the 7th trump. The millennium is time of teaching and discipline for the spirtualty dead. 34:4. And all the hosts of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their hosts shall fall down, as the leaf falls off from a vine, and as falling from the fig tree. Did you catch the word fig tree?? Jesus taught parable of fig tree in Matthew chapter 24. It applys to our generation, the last generation. Jesus will return in this generation!!. What's sad is. If you tried to teach parable of fig tree in a some churches. They would ask you to leave. Theirs some good churches left. But many churches don't get around to teaching God's word . It's traditions of men, false doctrine. Jesus hates false preachers. 34:5. For My sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of My curse, to Judgement . This is about day of vengeance. Jesus will destroy Russia military and Islamic brotherhood when they attack America through Alaska. Why?? God wants to show the heathen that He's real. Ezekiel chapter 38 will document. If any funnys disagree, who cares. It means their devoid of the truth. 34:6. The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath sacrifice in BOZRAH, and great slaughter in land of Idumea. ROSH in Hebrew =Russia. And ARAN in Hebrew means = EDOMITE. Russia sold Alaska to America. This is their burial ground when Jesus comes on the day of vengeance. AGRAMMATOS Greek means = illiterate, unlearned. Many Christian people will be ashamed when Jesus returns 7th trump. They worshipped antichrist. They choose a misguided preacher to suit their pleasure. Or some are victims of false preachers. It will be sad day for many people. Sheol is place for the spirtualty dead and wicked. Theirs gulf that separates paradise and Hades. The dead will be taught during millennium.
 

soberxp

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Stephen Hawkins is heathen, yes hes very intelligent, but his big bang theory is absolute nonsense. He doesn't believe in God. Isaiah 34:2. For the indignation of the Lord is upon all nations., and His fury upon all their armies: He have utterly destroyed them, He hath delivered them to slaughter. Let's understand. Jesus is coming 7th trump to fulfill day of vengeance. The cup of wrath is coming on the wicked. At this moment, every one is changed from their flesh body to their spiritual body. Were in different Dimension. And the fly away doctrine is lie. The millennium starts at the 7th trump. The millennium is time of teaching and discipline for the spirtualty dead. 34:4. And all the hosts of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their hosts shall fall down, as the leaf falls off from a vine, and as falling from the fig tree. Did you catch the word fig tree?? Jesus taught parable of fig tree in Matthew chapter 24. It applys to our generation, the last generation. Jesus will return in this generation!!. What's sad is. If you tried to teach parable of fig tree in a some churches. They would ask you to leave. Theirs some good churches left. But many churches don't get around to teaching God's word . It's traditions of men, false doctrine. Jesus hates false preachers. 34:5. For My sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, and upon the people of My curse, to Judgement . This is about day of vengeance. Jesus will destroy Russia military and Islamic brotherhood when they attack America through Alaska. Why?? God wants to show the heathen that He's real. Ezekiel chapter 38 will document. If any funnys disagree, who cares. It means their devoid of the truth. 34:6. The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the Lord hath sacrifice in BOZRAH, and great slaughter in land of Idumea. ROSH in Hebrew =Russia. And ARAN in Hebrew means = EDOMITE. Russia sold Alaska to America. This is their burial ground when Jesus comes on the day of vengeance. AGRAMMATOS Greek means = illiterate, unlearned. Many Christian people will be ashamed when Jesus returns 7th trump. They worshipped antichrist. They choose a misguided preacher to suit their pleasure. Or some are victims of false preachers. It will be sad day for many people. Sheol is place for the spirtualty dead and wicked. Theirs gulf that separates paradise and Hades. The dead will be taught during millennium.
Your theories are full of too many secular thoughts,
1.Your words are full of malice.
2.From your words, I feel a similar point of view to that of Islamic extremists, that pagans must die.
3.After carefully reviewing your own words, are there any differences between you and the things you despise?
4.Is that how the words in the Bible teach you?
 
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Your theories are full of too many secular thoughts,
1.Your words are full of malice.
2.From your words, I feel a similar point of view to that of Islamic extremists, that pagans must die.
3.After carefully reviewing your own words, are there any differences between you and the things you despise?
4.Is that how the words in the Bible teach you?
looks like you disagree with asterismos. I think I saw the things asterismos says is how the prophecy is going to happen somewhere else but maybe a long time ago so I don't remember who came up with those ideas. How and when the future events happen seems to be all speculation and it doesn't matter to any how God is going to work His work. Nothing for us to argue about since only The Father knows. Jesus doesn't even know as I recall. His disciples asked about these things and were told only Father knows. I probably could find the Scripture with a search but someone on this chat might know it. There is a group near me and when I talk with them on the phone they can give me Bible reference in a second without looking on searches.
 

soberxp

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looks like you disagree with asterismos. I think I saw the things asterismos says is how the prophecy is going to happen somewhere else but maybe a long time ago so I don't remember who came up with those ideas. How and when the future events happen seems to be all speculation and it doesn't matter to any how God is going to work His work. Nothing for us to argue about since only The Father knows. Jesus doesn't even know as I recall. His disciples asked about these things and were told only Father knows. I probably could find the Scripture with a search but someone on this chat might know it. There is a group near me and when I talk with them on the phone they can give me Bible reference in a second without looking on searches.
Belief is lively and persuasive, and God's anger is the evil result that human beings themselves have eaten.

Do you still remember that God created people in his own image.
Do you still remember that Juese is the image of God?
Do you still remember that Jesus said he was not doing his own will but of the father?
Do you still remember that God said in Genesis that man should manage everything in the land and water ?
If you remember this, this is so called Obedience.

Since the Babel era, when human beings wanted to live in their own way, God began to worry Because God is justified in doing so. Look at the world now. There are plastic particles everywhere in the ocean. These things are poisoning every living thing in the ocean, and then poisoning the stomach of human beings. Human beings live in their own way. They have no sense of responsibility, just for greed and financial resources, and ignore these proper management. This is the result of disobeying God's words, that is, death, perhaps not immediate death, But it is slow and deadly.

This is God's wrath, because it is a rule that God cannot do anything. As Mao Zedong said, there is no savior, we can only rely on ourselves.

Revelation 8:9
One third of the living creatures in the sea died, and one third of the ships were damaged.

What are one-third of the living creatures in the sea died?
1.Swimming creatures, such as fish
2.Marine plants, such as algae
3.Marine plankton, such as shrimp and bacteria

Those plastic particles are poisoning these species. No matter what kind of destruction, it is the same worse.

What are one-third of the ships on the sea?

1.warship
2.cargo ship
3.Fishing boat

At that bad moment, is there will be fishing boats going out to sea to catch the poisoned fish?

This is God's wrath, not some people say that God is taking revenge, Bad fruits planted by human beings. By living in human's way.

If we follow the path God has shown us, where is God's wrath?

This topic is too big to change anything for A small individual unless there is a miracle
 

soberxp

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BTW,Revelation says that if you want to change these prophecies, you will encounter woe .also Jesus says If someone says you are in woe, you will be blessed.
 
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Your theories are full of too many secular thoughts,
1.Your words are full of malice.
2.From your words, I feel a similar point of view to that of Islamic extremists, that pagans must die.
3.After carefully reviewing your own words, are there any differences between you and the things you despise?
4.Is that how the words in the Bible teach you?
You claim to love God and insult one of Gods children. I documented what I taught from the bible. Titus chapter 3 , clearly states to not engage in unprofitable debates or striving. A man that is a heretick, after first and second admonition reject. Knowing that he that is such a is subverted, and sins, being condemned of himself, Titus chapter 3. Other members will see your hatred towards God and His servants. Its obvious satan has you in bondage. I told the truth, and you demonstrated your hate towards me. 1 John 1:6. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie, do not the truth. 1:7. But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus christ His son cleans us from all sin. Your not a Christian. Your doing the deeds of Lucifer. Your not child of light. A child of light loves the body of christ. Everyone on this chat will see you for the person you really are. Love is the glue and hatred is demonic, of the devil. I have no despisement for Stephen hawkins, I simply said he's heathen, and is non believer. I admonished you. I will avoid you and ignore you, seeing your mind is warped.
 

soberxp

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You claim to love God and insult one of Gods children. I documented what I taught from the bible. Titus chapter 3 , clearly states to not engage in unprofitable debates or striving. A man that is a heretick, after first and second admonition reject. Knowing that he that is such a is subverted, and sins, being condemned of himself, Titus chapter 3. Other members will see your hatred towards God and His servants. Its obvious satan has you in bondage. I told the truth, and you demonstrated your hate towards me. 1 John 1:6. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie, do not the truth. 1:7. But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus christ His son cleans us from all sin. Your not a Christian. Your doing the deeds of Lucifer. Your not child of light. A child of light loves the body of christ. Everyone on this chat will see you for the person you really are. Love is the glue and hatred is demonic, of the devil. I have no despisement for Stephen hawkins, I simply said he's heathen, and is non believer. I admonished you. I will avoid you and ignore you, seeing your mind is warped.
So why do you hate Russia and Iran? Have you not been influenced by secular vision? Do I say this love your enemies? Are you reading the Bible or the Politician Bible
 

soberxp

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How can the 'sun and moon being darkened, and the stars falling from heaven' be explained? Just asking.....
The dimming of the sun and moon is easy to understand, such as the red moon, the darkness of the solar storm area.

The stars have all fallen, which may be the wrong understanding of the ancients. Looking at the sky of the city now, the stars hardly be seen, the pollution of the city lights and the pollution of the atmosphere environment.
 

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The dimming of the sun and moon is easy to understand, such as the red moon, the darkness of the solar storm area.

If the sun isn't shining, the moon isn't going to be red.
 
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The stars have all fallen, which may be the wrong understanding of the ancients. Looking at the sky of the city now, the stars hardly be seen, the pollution of the city lights and the pollution of the atmosphere environment.
Seems that something like what you state here is implied in Revelation. Maybe there could also be some figurative language in Revelation that needs to be considered. Almost certain passages in Revelation are related to passages in the OT and possibly some books in the NT.
 

soberxp

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If the sun isn't shining, the moon isn't going to be red.
You seem to have misunderstood. The Bible says "sun and moon being darkened", not completely losing light.
 

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The moon turning to blood and the sun going black will occur one time. Until then, people may imagine all the blood moons they like but it is their imagination, not the fulfillment of this foretelling.
 

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The moon turning to blood and the sun going black will occur one time. Until then, people may imagine all the blood moons they like but it is their imagination, not the fulfillment of this foretelling.
I want to ask the question, when you hear the testimonies they describe in other churches, do you doubt them, or do you choose to believe them unconditionally.

Do not bear false witness,Is there any foolish man who makes nothing of this?

Just like Jesus said have great faith, some people ask for the coronavirus to disappear, and then become the laughingstock of others. What's the problem now ?
 
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The moon turning to blood and the sun going black will occur one time. Until then, people may imagine all the blood moons they like but it is their imagination, not the fulfillment of this foretelling.
Ezekiel 32:7 is a bit different than most verses. Not sure all these are referencing same event. Also may be additional verses?

Matthew 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mark 13:24 ¶ But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

Luke 21:25 ¶ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

Revelation 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Isaiah 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Ezekiel 32:7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.
 

JaumeJ

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I want to ask the question, when you hear the testimonies they describe in other churches, do you doubt them, or do you choose to believe them unconditionally.

Do not bear false witness,Is there any foolish man who makes nothing of this?

Just like Jesus said have great faith, some people ask for the coronavirus to disappear, and then become the laughingstock of others. What's the problem now ?
As I recently posted, so I practice, morning, midday, and night. I always ask and petition cautiously saying, thy will be done.
Enough miracles have come my way for me to know my prayer's ae always answered by our Father, always.
When a child is learned enough, he knows not all the child wants in petition will be responded to with a Yes,,,,, so when it is No, the child, knowing the perfect love of the Father is happy.