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I guess faith in the Lord is not good enough anymore. Building a temple for who, and why? The Lord sits on His throne and reigns from in high! (Eph. 1:21-23; Heb. 1:3).

Jesus said: “It is finished” (Jn 19:30). [/QUOTE]


Or you are TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT.

In the BIBLE it says THERE WILL BE A THIRD TEMPLE, BECAUSE HE HAS PLANNED IT, to put an end to the ANTICHRIST. ALL OF HIS PROPHESIES WILL BE FULLFILLED.

Isaiah 46:11 (HCSB)
11 . . . Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about. I have planned it; I will also do it.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Don't you get it, there is GOD'S PLAN ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANTICHRIST.
"It is finished", only deals with Salvation, Not the end of Prophesy. All of it will continue till the END.


2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 (NIV)
6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

This Thread is not even discussing fulfillment of Prophesy. It is discussing NEWS FROM ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, THE SANHEDRIN, AND THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, ON WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO ABOUT THE THIRD TEMPLE, and the related subject, PROOF THAT THE ROMAN X LEGION WAS THE ENTIRE HABITANT ON THE COMPLEX ON HIGHER GROUND, THEREFORE THE THIRD TEMPLE BELONGS ON THE OPHEL.

Therefore you are not even on SUBJECT.

My Bible says there will be a FOURTH TEMPLE, built by CHRIST Himself, in the Millennium. But You can look that up in Ezekiel, it is obvious you need more study. Here is a HINT, on why it needs to be in a different location. When the Antichrist sits on the Mercy Seat pretending to be God, he defiled the whole Complex, including the Bedrock.

If you what to continue this discussion, PLEASE start your own thread. You are completely off subject on this thread.
 

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I guess faith in the Lord is not good enough anymore. Building a temple for who, and why? The Lord sits on His throne and reigns from in high! (Eph. 1:21-23; Heb. 1:3).

Jesus said: “It is finished” (Jn 19:30).
Please forgive this old fool, for being rougher on you than I needed to be. I have had so many try to highjack this Thread, into a heated discussion about fulfillment of Prophesy. Yet, it is all about what is going on in Israel, and the history of mistakes that lead them down the wrong path. All thought when I read your post was: "Here we go again!" So I would like to invite you to be a guest, as long as you know now, it is not about the fulfillment of Prophecy. I should have made it OBVIOUS in the title, like:
Israel's Plan To Build The Third TEMPLE and the HISTORY BEHIND IT. Hind Sight is 20/20.
 

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Here is a LX ring found in Jerusalem. Looks like it could have been on the finger of one of the Cavalry Soldiers, every Roman Legion had 300 Cavalry Soldiers.
 

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Lady's Brooch with LGX on the left side found in Jerusalem. Probably worn by a Lady Support Personnel.
 
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Please forgive this old fool, for being rougher on you than I needed to be. I have had so many try to highjack this Thread, into a heated discussion about fulfillment of Prophesy. Yet, it is all about what is going on in Israel, and the history of mistakes that lead them down the wrong path. All thought when I read your post was: "Here we go again!" So I would like to invite you to be a guest, as long as you know now, it is not about the fulfillment of Prophecy. I should have made it OBVIOUS in the title, like:
Israel's Plan To Build The Third TEMPLE and the HISTORY BEHIND IT. Hind Sight is 20/20.
No biggie, but I have to tell you that Israel as a covenant nation ended forever when God Himself used the Romans to destroy the visible temple because He was building a better temple, which is made without hands.

John 2:19–21 (NASB95)
19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
20 The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?”
21 But He was speaking of the temple of His body."


Today, the people of God are the temple of the Spirit of Jesus Christ because we are His temple (1Cor. 3:16, 6:19).

Rom. 7:4 (LSB) "So, my brothers, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God."

1 Cor. 10:16 (LSB) "Is not the cup of blessing which we bless a sharing in the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break a sharing in the body of Christ?"

Ephesians 4:11-12 (LSB) "And He Himself gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ."


So, what need is there for another physical temple when the Lord has already spoken His last word about this issue? (Heb. 1:1).

Jesus is God's final word!

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I guess faith in the Lord is not good enough anymore. Building a temple for who, and why? The Lord sits on His throne and reigns from in high! (Eph. 1:21-23; Heb. 1:3).

Jesus said: “It is finished” (Jn 19:30).

Or you are TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT.

In the BIBLE it says THERE WILL BE A THIRD TEMPLE, BECAUSE HE HAS PLANNED IT, to put an end to the ANTICHRIST. ALL OF HIS PROPHESIES WILL BE FULLFILLED.

Isaiah 46:11 (HCSB)
11 . . . Yes, I have spoken; so I will also bring it about. I have planned it; I will also do it.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Don't you get it, there is GOD'S PLAN ON HOW TO DEAL WITH ANTICHRIST.
"It is finished", only deals with Salvation, Not the end of Prophesy. All of it will continue till the END.


2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 (NIV)
6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

This Thread is not even discussing fulfillment of Prophesy. It is discussing NEWS FROM ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, THE SANHEDRIN, AND THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, ON WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO ABOUT THE THIRD TEMPLE, and the related subject, PROOF THAT THE ROMAN X LEGION WAS THE ENTIRE HABITANT ON THE COMPLEX ON HIGHER GROUND, THEREFORE THE THIRD TEMPLE BELONGS ON THE OPHEL.

Therefore you are not even on SUBJECT.

My Bible says there will be a FOURTH TEMPLE, built by CHRIST Himself, in the Millennium. But You can look that up in Ezekiel, it is obvious you need more study. Here is a HINT, on why it needs to be in a different location. When the Antichrist sits on the Mercy Seat pretending to be God, he defiled the whole Complex, including the Bedrock.

If you what to continue this discussion, PLEASE start your own thread. You are completely off subject on this thread.[/QUOTE]


Find me one single verse in the NT that verifies such atrocities?
 

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Roman Legionnaire's Helmet.

Yes that is what it looks like, a Roman Brass Knuckles. How would you like getting punched in the face with that.

These are in the museum, but not advertised.


For Sale in an antique dealer shop, the X in the middle of this ring is Roman X Legion.



Yet another square, these were used on walls, floors, and of course, in the ROMAN BATH HOUSES lining the bottom of the Pool.
My guess is once tourists want to pay for Souvenir's, ammeters grabbed all they could find, without noting where they came from.
Specific Locations would have brought a much higher price.
 

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Find me one single verse in the NT that verifies such atrocities?
I offered you an olive branch, and you Proceeded to try to HIGHJACK the TREAD. My first opinion was correct.
I guess you have never read with understanding Revelation. I already did so.



2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 (NIV)
6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders,
10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.


If you what to continue this discussion, PLEASE start your own thread. You are completely off subject on this thread, the third warning will get you on my Permanent IGNORE LIST.

Now you can say Good Bye.

Titus 3:9-11 (ESV)
9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him,
11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
 

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Coins with the X symbolizing the Roman X Legion on them.

IMMEDIATELY in 72-73 AD the ROMAN X LEGION was temporarily MOVED to Masada, Israel as one of their Siege Forces. Roman legionary (X Fretensis) castra at Masada, Israel, viewed from the fortress walls; constructed 72-73 AD. Not much left of it now, BUT look at the Size and and Shape of their CAMP. Yes they returned to Jerusalem after the Siege was Over.
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Look again, you sceptics, your THEORY is Sinking Fast. That looks like a Model of what they had in Jerusalem.

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OH MY, IT REALLY IS.
 
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Find me one single verse in the NT that verifies such atrocities?

I offered you an olive branch, and you Proceeded to try to HIGHJACK the TREAD. My first opinion was correct.
I guess you have never read with understanding Revelation. I already did so.

Scriptures my friend. Just use the NT holy scriptures with chapter and verse and prove your assertions about the building of another physical temple.
 

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Moguntiacum_1076 | Praetorium - SAME SHAPE
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Fuerte legionario de Lejjun – Betthorus (Jordania) - SAME SHAPE
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Again the Same General Shape.




Here is Fort Vicus and Yet again in this drawing is shows Rounded Corner's.
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Now Let me explain. I read in Josephus, that the TOWER OF ANTONIO, fell in an earthquake, shortly after 70 AD, and the fact that it was still Standing, was because IT was Part of Fortress Antonio. All these Fortresses, with Rounded Corners, except the top one, were built between 80 AD and 1076 Ad. Which tells me the learned from the Falling of the Tower of Antonia to built a more earthquake resistant Corner; while the 1076 Fortress was build on STABLE GROUND, so they used a standard Corner.

SO WHY THE SAME GENERAL SHAPE ? ? ?

I can explain that TOO. It is obvious to me, as I was in the military, while civilians are Baffled. EVERY LEGION had the exact same number of Personnel to go into that Fortress. THEY KNEW that shape and size would fit up to 6000 TROOPS, and 4000 Support Personnel. If it FITS, DON'T CHANGE IT.
 
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I offered you an olive branch, and you Proceeded to try to HIGHJACK the TREAD. My first opinion was correct.
I guess you have never read with understanding Revelation. I already did so.



2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


You have nothing but empty air. The temple mentioned in Thessalonians was Herod's temple NOT a new one. I don't read anywhere in the NT that a third physical temple will be built in Israel. I will not waste my time here anymore.
 

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You have nothing but empty air. The temple mentioned in Thessalonians was Herod's temple NOT a new one. I don't read anywhere in the NT that a third physical temple will be built in Israel. I will not waste my time here anymore.
Now you will Be put on my Permanent IGNORE LIST. Which means Nothing you try to tell me will ever show up on my Screen. You are a teenager aren't you ? ? ? When you grow up to a mature adult, maybe then you will have learned to conduct yourself as an adult on these threads. You do not even read most of what I have posted you.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (NIV)
3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in
God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


I told you before that is God's plan for Trapping the Antichrist in HIS own SIN.

QUOTE:
2:4 He will violently oppose every form of divine worship and will enthrone himself in the Temple of God in Jerusalem. This description clearly identifies him as Antichrist, the one who is opposed to Christ and who sets himself up in the place of Christ.

Believer's Bible Commentary: A Thorough, Yet Easy-to-Read Bible Commentary That Turns Complicated Theology Into Practical Understanding. :END QOUTE.

QUOTE:
After initially posing as the friend of religion (cf. Rev. 17:13), Antichrist will suddenly reveal his true nature when he commits blasphemy against God and opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship (cf. Rev. 13:15-16). Energized by Satan and aided by the false prophet, Antichrist will have immense power to successfully demand that the world worship him (cf. Rev. 13:1-17). Satan, who has always longed to be worshiped (cf. Isa. 14:13-14), will fulfill that desire vicariously through the worship accorded Antichrist. Antichrist will exalt himself by taking his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. The temple, the symbol of God's presence, is the most fitting place for Satan to orchestrate the ultimate act of blasphemy—a wicked man displaying himself as being God. This apostasy, to which Paul refers here and which Jesus called the "abomination of desolation" (Matt. 24:15), referring to Daniel's prophecy, will take place at the midpoint of the Tribulation (Dan. 9:27).
MacArthur New Testament Commentary, The - MacArthur New Testament Commentary – 1 & 2 Thessalonians.
:END QUOTE.

QUOTE:
He exalts himself and opposes God by moving into the temple, the place for worship of God, declaring himself to be God and demanding the worship of the world. In this act of satanic self-deification, he commits the great apostasy in defiance of God. For the first three and one-half years of the Tribulation, he maintains relations with Israel, but halts those (cf. Dan. 9:27); and for the last three and one-half years, there is great tribulation under his reign (cf. Dan. 7:25; 11:36-39; Matt. 24:15-21; Rev. 13:1-8) culminating with the Day of the Lord.
The MacArthur Bible Commentary.
:END QUOTE.

I doubt if you know this. But GOD is the Author of the ENTIRE BIBLE, and there are YET to be FULFILLED Prophecies in the Old Testament.

BYE, BYE, you are going on my IGNORE LIST, and you have personally Earned It. Study More, and NEVER assume you have learned it all. Spiritual Maturity has nothing to do with how old you are.
 

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Here is Fort Vicus and Yet again in this drawing is shows Rounded Corner's.
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Now Let me explain. I read in Josephus, that the TOWER OF ANTONIO, fell in an earthquake, shortly after 70 AD, and the fact that it was still Standing, was because IT was Part of Fortress Antonio. All these Fortresses, with Rounded Corners, except the top one, were built between 80 AD and 1076 Ad. Which tells me the learned from the Falling of the Tower of Antonia to built a more earthquake resistant Corner; while the 1076 Fortress was build on STABLE GROUND, so they used a standard Corner.

SO WHY THE SAME GENERAL SHAPE ? ? ?

I can explain that TOO. It is obvious to me, as I was in the military, while civilians are Baffled. EVERY LEGION had the exact same number of Personnel to go into that Fortress. THEY KNEW that shape and size would fit up to 6000 TROOPS, and 4000 Support Personnel. If it FITS, DON'T CHANGE IT.

WOW, I must have been really Tired, when I typed that Paragraph under the last picture. Let me correct it:

Now Let me explain. I read in Josephus, that the tall TOWER OF ANTONIO, fell in an earthquake, shortly after 70 AD, and the fact that it was still Standing, was because IT was Part of Fortress Antonio. (Maybe someone should dig there to find remnants of the fall?) All these other Fortresses, have Rounded Corners, except the top one, were built between 80 AD and 1076 Ad. Which tells me that THEY had learned from the Falling of the Tower of Antonia, how to built a more earthquake resistant Corner where needed; and where they did not need it, like at Moguntiacum_1076 | Praetorium, where in that location at the 1076 Fortress, it was build on STABLE GROUND, so they used a standard Corner.
 

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I can't wait for my radiation treatments to start on the 24th. Not that I am a glutton for punishment, but the sooner I get started the sooner it get over. For those who don't know, I have cancer on my vocal chords, and have not been able to speak in anything above a whisper for 3.5 months now. They said they are small enough that they have about a 90% success rate on treating it with radiation. BUT it leaves a side effect of a massive Sunburn like on my throat, and my voice will return in about 6 months. So pray for the 29 days of radiation treatments to go by quickly.
 

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Now back to PROVING that Legion X was barracks on the Temple Mount.


Where all of the OTHERS opinion goes wrong, is Mistaking that the Mt. Mount Moriah was a single Peak. It was NOT a single Peak, it was the entire RIDGE, including the OPHEL in the middle of the Ridge, and all the way down past the Pool of Siloam. AND I CAN PROVE THAT STATMENT, with Bible Verses.

First I need to establish What I believe about the BIBLE itself. I believe absolutely there are NO ERRORS in the BIBLE in it's original manuscripts. That means, if we think we found a Contradiction in the BIBLE, WE made a mistake in interpretation, in one, if not both Verses; we need to back up and find an interpretation that fits both verses EQUALLY. GOD DID NOT MAKE A SINGLE MISTAKE, it is OUR mistake.

2 Samuel 22:31 (ESV)
31 This God—his way is perfect; the word of the LORD proves true; he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.

Psalm 18:30 (ESV)
30 This God—his way is perfect; the word of the LORD proves true; he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.

Yes those two verses are identical, and HIS WORD PROVES TRUE. If you think you found a Contradiction, you need to back up and find a different Interpretations that fits BOTH VERSES. If you think there are Contradictions in Your BIBLE, YOU ARE WRONG, or you have a NWT - made by the Jehovah Witnesses that is WRONG IN Multiple places.

Now if we can agree with all of that, then Please Continue:

Here is how I can Prove that Mt. Moriah was the WHOLE RIDGE, while Mt. ZION was a single Peak right in the Middle of Mt. Moriah, on the OPHEL.

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Yes I had to wiggle around letters, with that Green Arrow, to get to the south end of Moriah, already on the map, and the red line was there on the map in the beginning, and is the outer edge of MORIAH. They were trying to show the difference of what they call Mt. Moriah and Land of Moriah, which is also in the Bible. It is proper to call everything inside the red line, MORIAH. And I have proven earlier that in 1212 the Jews were returning from over a 1000 years of exile, the Sanhedrin could not agree on location of Mt. ZION, so they VOTED on it.s Location, and frequently Political VOTES are totally WRONG. So the Vote named the WRONG LOCATION Mt. Zion.

I have More pertaining to this map.

Acts 21:30-32 (ESV)
30 Then all the city was stirred up, and the people ran together. They seized Paul and dragged him out of the temple, and at once the gates were shut.
31 And as they were seeking to kill him, word came to the tribune of the cohort that all Jerusalem was in confusion.
32 He at once took soldiers and centurions and ran down to them. And when they saw the tribune and the soldiers, they stopped beating Paul.


In order to BE TRUE TO THE WORD, that tells us where exactly Paul was, and were the Tribune (Commander) started from, and tells you where the TEMPLE WAS LOCATED, and I almost can guarantee almost NOBODY Picked That Up.

Watch and think about THIS, to keep the BIBLE 100% Accurate:

It Could not be from the East where the Mt. of Olive is, because you would have to run down and then up the hill to Paul.

It Could not be from the South, because it is all up hill from that direction.

It Could not be from the West, because you would have to cross up to two Valleys, Central Valley with is the road on the East side of Givati Parking lot Dig, or even further West, you would have to cross Tyropoeon Valley too.

The ONLY direction you could have the Tribune and the Soldiers RUN FROM, is NORTH. And forget that little so-called Roman Fort that could not hold more than half a Cohort that the Model depicts:
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We established it was a FULL Legion.
And the only place large enough is up top the so-called TEMPLE MOUNT.

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It is all down hill from Fortress Antonia to the RED X.
 

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Now for the FEW SCEPTICS that are Still clinging to their wild OLD THEORY, here is the Coup de Gras.

2 Chronicles 3:1 (NCV)
1 Then Solomon began to build the Temple of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah. This was where the LORD had appeared to David, Solomon’s father. Solomon built the Temple on the place David had prepared on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.


Isaiah 8:18 (HCSB)
18 Here I am with the children the LORD has given me to be signs and wonders in Israel from the LORD of Hosts who dwells on Mount Zion.


Psalm 135:21 (HCSB)
21 May the LORD be praised from Zion; He dwells in Jerusalem. Hallelujah!


1 Kings 9:10 (ESV)
10 At the end of twenty years, in which Solomon had built the two houses, the house of the LORD and the king’s house,


Every verse has to mention the Same Location, or you are implying GOD MADE A MISTAKE ?

The theory that GOD's Temple is on the TEMPLE MOUNT is severely flawed, and creates a MAJOR Contradiction.

The TRUTH IS the House of the LORD was Built by Solomon on the lower Peak of Mt. Zion, which is in the Middle of MORIAH.

That is the Only way you can interpret those for verses, and still make it Square with Scripture. Moriah is the Name on the RIDGE, specifically on Mt. Zion, on the OPHEL.

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Hear is what I have learned threw over 4 Years of Study. Most I have been convinced are 100% TRUE. Three, I listed as Possible, until some one with Pictures can verify exactly where they are located. If you disagree, stop by my Cable out back the Throne Room in heaven, we will discuss it if you want. Oh, I just realized the Bible says "We will know as we are Known." Then and only then.

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Why do we need another physical temple when the only temple that God has had after the Lord ascended to the throne of glory and sent His Holy Spirit to inhabit those who believe in Him? Where in the NT do I read the need of another physical temple? 🤫