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Webers.Home

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Hello;

I was christened an infant into the Roman Catholic Church in 1944, and
eventually attended catechism to complete First Holy Communion and
Confirmation.

My siblings are Catholic, my mother was Catholic, my eldest brother entered
the priesthood and made it to Friar before succumbing to cancer a few years
ago. My wife is a former Catholic, her dad was Catholic, his wife was
Catholic, my aunt and uncle were Catholics, and my wife's cousins are
Catholic; one of them was recently ordained a Deacon.

I was loyal to Rome for the first 24 years of my life till one day in Feb 1968 I
was approached at work by a Protestant minister who asked me if I was
prepared for Christ's return.

Well; I must've been either asleep or absent the day that the nuns in
catechism talked about Jesus coming back because that man's question was
the very first time in my whole life that I can remember somebody telling
me. I was 24 and hadn't a clue what he was talking about.

My initial reaction was alarm because I instinctively knew that were I called
on the carpet for a face-to-face with Christ, it would not go well for me
because I had a lot to answer for. Well; I don't like being made to feel afraid
so I became indignant and demanded to know why Jesus wanted to come
back. That's when I found out for the very first time that it was in the plan
for Christ to take over the world.

Then the man asked me if I was going to Heaven. Well; of course I had no
clue because Catholics honestly don't know what to expect when they pass
away. I was crossing my fingers while in the back of my mind dreading the
worst.

Then the man said; "Don't you know that Jesus died for your sins?"

Well; I had been taught in catechism that Jesus died for the sins of the
world; that much I knew; but honestly believed all along that he had been a
victim of unfortunate circumstances. It was a shock to discover that Jesus'
trip to the cross was deliberate, and that his Father was thinking of me when
His son passed away, viz: my sins were among the sins of the world that
Jesus took to the cross with him.

At that very instant-- scarcely a nanosecond --something took over in my
mind as I fully realized, to my great relief, that Heaven was no longer out of
reach, rather, well within my grasp!

That was an amazing experience. In just the two or three minutes of
conversation with that man, I obtained an understanding of Jesus' crucifixion
that many tedious years of Catholic masses and catechism classes had
somehow failed to get across. Consequently, my confidence in the Roman
Catholic Church was shattered like a bar of peanut brittle candy dropped to
the sidewalk from the tippy top of the Chrysler building.

Long story short; I eventually went with that man to his church and, along
with him and a couple of elders, knelt at the rail down front and prayed a
really simple, naive prayer that went something like this:

"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's
death"

My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but was no doubt the smartest
sixteen words I'd ever spoken up to that time because seeing as how Jesus
gave his life for the whole world, then God couldn't very well refuse my
request; now could He.

Rom 5:6-8 . . Christ died for the impious. Very rarely will anyone die for a
righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.
But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still
sinners, Christ died for us.

( A really eerie moment happened while I was saying my stupid little prayer.
I got a vivid mental impression of someone there with us. I couldn't see
anything or hear anything, or make out a face or a form. Whatever that
impression was hung around for every last syllable of my prayer, and then it
was gone. I'm not a big fan of paranormal activity but I'm telling you,
something was there; and I hadn't been drinking, wasn't taking any
medications, nor have I ever used drugs of any kind even once. )

As of today's date, Oct 11, 2022 I'm 78 years old; and an on-going student
of the Bible since 1968 via sermons, seminars, lectures, Sunday school
classes, radio Bible programs, and various authors of a number of Bible
commentaries and special topics. Fifty-four years of Bible under my belt
hasn't made me a seminary-quality expert but at least competent enough to
be useful to inquiring souls now and then.
_
 

Evmur

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Hello;

I was christened an infant into the Roman Catholic Church in 1944, and
eventually attended catechism to complete First Holy Communion and
Confirmation.


My siblings are Catholic, my mother was Catholic, my eldest brother entered
the priesthood and made it to Friar before succumbing to cancer a few years
ago. My wife is a former Catholic, her dad was Catholic, his wife was
Catholic, my aunt and uncle were Catholics, and my wife's cousins are
Catholic; one of them was recently ordained a Deacon.


I was loyal to Rome for the first 24 years of my life till one day in Feb 1968 I
was approached at work by a Protestant minister who asked me if I was
prepared for Christ's return.


Well; I must've been either asleep or absent the day that the nuns in
catechism talked about Jesus coming back because that man's question was
the very first time in my whole life that I can remember somebody telling
me. I was 24 and hadn't a clue what he was talking about.


My initial reaction was alarm because I instinctively knew that were I called
on the carpet for a face-to-face with Christ, it would not go well for me
because I had a lot to answer for. Well; I don't like being made to feel afraid
so I became indignant and demanded to know why Jesus wanted to come
back. That's when I found out for the very first time that it was in the plan
for Christ to take over the world.


Then the man asked me if I was going to Heaven. Well; of course I had no
clue because Catholics honestly don't know what to expect when they pass
away. I was crossing my fingers while in the back of my mind dreading the
worst.


Then the man said; "Don't you know that Jesus died for your sins?"

Well; I had been taught in catechism that Jesus died for the sins of the
world; that much I knew; but honestly believed all along that he had been a
victim of unfortunate circumstances. It was a shock to discover that Jesus'
trip to the cross was deliberate, and that his Father was thinking of me when
His son passed away, viz: my sins were among the sins of the world that
Jesus took to the cross with him.


At that very instant-- scarcely a nanosecond --something took over in my
mind as I fully realized, to my great relief, that Heaven was no longer out of
reach, rather, well within my grasp!


That was an amazing experience. In just the two or three minutes of
conversation with that man, I obtained an understanding of Jesus' crucifixion
that many tedious years of Catholic masses and catechism classes had
somehow failed to get across. Consequently, my confidence in the Roman
Catholic Church was shattered like a bar of peanut brittle candy dropped to
the sidewalk from the tippy top of the Chrysler building.


Long story short; I eventually went with that man to his church and, along
with him and a couple of elders, knelt at the rail down front and prayed a
really simple, naive prayer that went something like this:


"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's
death"


My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but was no doubt the smartest
sixteen words I'd ever spoken up to that time because seeing as how Jesus
gave his life for the whole world, then God couldn't very well refuse my
request; now could He.


Rom 5:6-8 . . Christ died for the impious. Very rarely will anyone die for a
righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.
But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still
sinners, Christ died for us.


( A really eerie moment happened while I was saying my stupid little prayer.
I got a vivid mental impression of someone there with us. I couldn't see
anything or hear anything, or make out a face or a form. Whatever that
impression was hung around for every last syllable of my prayer, and then it
was gone. I'm not a big fan of paranormal activity but I'm telling you,
something was there; and I hadn't been drinking, wasn't taking any
medications, nor have I ever used drugs of any kind even once. )


As of today's date, Oct 11, 2022 I'm 78 years old; and an on-going student
of the Bible since 1968 via sermons, seminars, lectures, Sunday school
classes, radio Bible programs, and various authors of a number of Bible
commentaries and special topics. Fifty-four years of Bible under my belt
hasn't made me a seminary-quality expert but at least competent enough to
be useful to inquiring souls now and then.
_
Catholicism is so dark, I was raised Catholic.

At 26 I was working long, long hours as a butcher manager. Hard work. On the way home one evening I picked up a magazine from the pavement with banner "God loves YOU, He wants to bless YOU" I thought that's good, I can use some of that.

It was a very colourful magazine, full of photies, American, God bless America.

It charted the Ministry of T. L. Osborn and his wife Daisy. A missionary evangelist to Africa and other poor countries, I saw the multitudes gathered and thought that's good. I LOVED the sermon messages. But it was full of stories of miracles and healings and provision. I couldn't buy any of that, I didn't think he would lie, he had an honest face, and Daisy looked honest. I thought he's just American ... Americans can get a little carried away after all. but I ordered more free copies.

Every time the magazine came which was anytime between every 6-8 weeks was the same I KNEW it had come before I got home, I would read it cover to cover and my heart mysteriously beat a little faster. but I never believed the miracles. Many times I read the scripture "Jesus Christ is the SAME yesterday and today and forever" I never understood it. I looked long and hard at that scripture.

One beautiful May morning I read the story of a poor paralytic man in Puerto Rico carried to a meeting and laid on the ground, after prayer he was healed, he walked for the first time in 16 years. I looked at his face, just a poor beggar, his face was honest.

Inside me an inaudible alarm was ringing ... this man is telling the truth, he was healed, then all the others were healed too. THEN I understood "Jesus Christ is the SAME yesterday and today and forever"

Then I saw something I had never seen before although I literally read each magazine cover to cover. I saw a prayer for the forgiveness of sins at the cross and to receive Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Saviour.

I knelt down to pray that prayer and the Holy Ghost just fell on me. I made so much noise my neighbour came arunning worried that something had happened ... that was my first witness. "Jesus just came into my heart"
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#3
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Hello;

I was christened an infant into the Roman Catholic Church in 1944, and
eventually attended catechism to complete First Holy Communion and
Confirmation.


My siblings are Catholic, my mother was Catholic, my eldest brother entered
the priesthood and made it to Friar before succumbing to cancer a few years
ago. My wife is a former Catholic, her dad was Catholic, his wife was
Catholic, my aunt and uncle were Catholics, and my wife's cousins are
Catholic; one of them was recently ordained a Deacon.


I was loyal to Rome for the first 24 years of my life till one day in Feb 1968 I
was approached at work by a Protestant minister who asked me if I was
prepared for Christ's return.


Well; I must've been either asleep or absent the day that the nuns in
catechism talked about Jesus coming back because that man's question was
the very first time in my whole life that I can remember somebody telling
me. I was 24 and hadn't a clue what he was talking about.


My initial reaction was alarm because I instinctively knew that were I called
on the carpet for a face-to-face with Christ, it would not go well for me
because I had a lot to answer for. Well; I don't like being made to feel afraid
so I became indignant and demanded to know why Jesus wanted to come
back. That's when I found out for the very first time that it was in the plan
for Christ to take over the world.


Then the man asked me if I was going to Heaven. Well; of course I had no
clue because Catholics honestly don't know what to expect when they pass
away. I was crossing my fingers while in the back of my mind dreading the
worst.


Then the man said; "Don't you know that Jesus died for your sins?"

Well; I had been taught in catechism that Jesus died for the sins of the
world; that much I knew; but honestly believed all along that he had been a
victim of unfortunate circumstances. It was a shock to discover that Jesus'
trip to the cross was deliberate, and that his Father was thinking of me when
His son passed away, viz: my sins were among the sins of the world that
Jesus took to the cross with him.


At that very instant-- scarcely a nanosecond --something took over in my
mind as I fully realized, to my great relief, that Heaven was no longer out of
reach, rather, well within my grasp!


That was an amazing experience. In just the two or three minutes of
conversation with that man, I obtained an understanding of Jesus' crucifixion
that many tedious years of Catholic masses and catechism classes had
somehow failed to get across. Consequently, my confidence in the Roman
Catholic Church was shattered like a bar of peanut brittle candy dropped to
the sidewalk from the tippy top of the Chrysler building.


Long story short; I eventually went with that man to his church and, along
with him and a couple of elders, knelt at the rail down front and prayed a
really simple, naive prayer that went something like this:


"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's
death"


My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but was no doubt the smartest
sixteen words I'd ever spoken up to that time because seeing as how Jesus
gave his life for the whole world, then God couldn't very well refuse my
request; now could He.


Rom 5:6-8 . . Christ died for the impious. Very rarely will anyone die for a
righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.
But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still
sinners, Christ died for us.


( A really eerie moment happened while I was saying my stupid little prayer.
I got a vivid mental impression of someone there with us. I couldn't see
anything or hear anything, or make out a face or a form. Whatever that
impression was hung around for every last syllable of my prayer, and then it
was gone. I'm not a big fan of paranormal activity but I'm telling you,
something was there; and I hadn't been drinking, wasn't taking any
medications, nor have I ever used drugs of any kind even once. )


As of today's date, Oct 11, 2022 I'm 78 years old; and an on-going student
of the Bible since 1968 via sermons, seminars, lectures, Sunday school
classes, radio Bible programs, and various authors of a number of Bible
commentaries and special topics. Fifty-four years of Bible under my belt
hasn't made me a seminary-quality expert but at least competent enough to
be useful to inquiring souls now and then.
_
Praise the Lord!
Glad to hear about your salvation.
I'm guessing that you're 100% certain that you are going to heaven?
 
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My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but was no doubt the smartest
sixteen words I'd ever spoken up to that time because seeing as how Jesus
gave his life for the whole world, then God couldn't very well refuse my
request; now could He.
A.W. Tozer.... reminds me of you when I read this on Wiki.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tozer hailed from a tiny farming community in western La Jose, Pennsylvania. He was converted to Christianity as a teenager in Akron, Ohio: While on his way home from work at a tire company, he overheard a street preacher say, "If you don't know how to be saved ... just call on God, saying, 'Lord, be merciful to me a sinner.'" Upon returning home, he climbed into the attic and heeded the preacher's advice.[2]
 

Webers.Home

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Rom 8:9 . . If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not
belong to Christ.

The Spirit of Christ is the spirit of a son.

Gal 4:5 . . Because you are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son
into your hearts, crying: Abba, Father.

Abba means father, but not as a label. It's an Aramaic vocative; which can
be roughly defined as calling out to someone to get their attention.

For example "Dad" is merely an identifier when my son and his mom are
talking about me in the kitchen while I'm out in the garage, But when my
son yells out "Dad, where are you?" that's when dad becomes a vocative.

Now the important issue here is that the spirit of His son compels Christ's
siblings to call out to his Father, never to his mother. So if people are
comfortable praying to Jesus' mom , then I'd have to say they don't have
the spirit of His son in their hearts because Christ never did that, and never
would do that.

That's not all.

Gal 4:6a . .Wherefore you are no more a servant, but a son;

Christ is God's next of kin-- His direct descendant --which of course entitles
him to the lion's share of God's estate. But Jesus' followers are God's kin
too-- not directly like Christ, but indirectly; by adoption.

Well; adopted kids have some rights that exceed the rights of foster kids.
Adopted kids have the right to a place in their dad's genealogy, and a right
to be known by his name, and a right to their dad's providence, and a right
to his love, and a right to an inheritance just the same as kids born in the
home.

( A note of caution to guys out there who perchance are thinking of adopting
their wives' children by another man. Should you and your wife break up,
you will be the one liable for child support; not the other guy. Your wife's
first husband remains the kids' biological father, but you will be their legal
father.)

My association with the world above underwent a radical revision when I
bought into the gospel. Whereas at one time I was alienated from God and
worried about my prospects in the afterlife; now I'm in God's genealogy, i.e.
He and I are kinfolk-- an astounding improvement to my circumstances
made possible by Christ's crucifixion and resurrection.

Gal 4:6b . . and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
_