HEARING GOD SPEAK
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CASE in POINT = Romans 2:12-16
For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13(for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law 13(for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; 14for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, 15who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) 16in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel.
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The idea of nothing or nothingness was sort of a focus for me for some time. I would try to 'imagine' that nothing existed. And it is such a contradiction that really muddles your brain. Made me think of the 'therapy' known as 'sensory deprivation', which I never tried but understood to be a tank of water to float in and sealed. Made me think of 'blackouts' from alcohol or drugs. I imagine with date rape drugs and so many court cases involving these the testimony of some would also confirm the senses being totally 'missing'. But back to 'nothingness' I would also consider the 'Chinese' yin & yang and think of Einsteins' E=mC2...and reading Hennig Genzs' book 'Nothingness' , subtitled, 'The Science of Empty Space', I can see where people come up with some strange ideas. I don't fault them. I want to say it was Sheldon Glashow who coined the term 'Big Bang' was critical of the person, Georges LeMaitre, originating the theory of how the Universe came to be. I believe Sheldon Glashow also mentions how some of his best teaching was done after smoking Hashish. All these bits of 'trivia' add up. The Bible is THE BOOK OF TRUE FAITH AND WORD OF GOD but lots of people think they can read into it all of the ways God brought into existence things seen & unseen... Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him
)))))) Another book 'The God Particle', gives the impression that soon man will discover or unveil the secrets of the universe....Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. Richard Feynman is another interesting character in science along with the fellow who said "I Have Become Death" and he was denigrated by others who were interested in perpetuating even better ways to destroy....Teller....But as Roseann Roseanna Danna would say, "It's always somethin'' I left out John Wheeler......he may be alive and reasonable.
)))))) Another book 'The God Particle', gives the impression that soon man will discover or unveil the secrets of the universe....Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. Richard Feynman is another interesting character in science along with the fellow who said "I Have Become Death" and he was denigrated by others who were interested in perpetuating even better ways to destroy....Teller....But as Roseann Roseanna Danna would say, "It's always somethin'' I left out John Wheeler......he may be alive and reasonable.-
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The idea of nothing or nothingness was sort of a focus for me for some time. I would try to 'imagine' that nothing existed. And it is such a contradiction that really muddles your brain. Made me think of the 'therapy' known as 'sensory deprivation', which I never tried but understood to be a tank of water to float in and sealed. Made me think of 'blackouts' from alcohol or drugs. I imagine with date rape drugs and so many court cases involving these the testimony of some would also confirm the senses being totally 'missing'. But back to 'nothingness' I would also consider the 'Chinese' yin & yang and think of Einsteins' E=mC2...and reading Hennig Genzs' book 'Nothingness' , subtitled, 'The Science of Empty Space', I can see where people come up with some strange ideas. I don't fault them. I want to say it was Sheldon Glashow who coined the term 'Big Bang' was critical of the person, Georges LeMaitre, originating the theory of how the Universe came to be. I believe Sheldon Glashow also mentions how some of his best teaching was done after smoking Hashish. All these bits of 'trivia' add up. The Bible is THE BOOK OF TRUE FAITH AND WORD OF GOD but lots of people think they can read into it all of the ways God brought into existence things seen & unseen... Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him)))))) Another book 'The God Particle', gives the impression that soon man will discover or unveil the secrets of the universe....Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. Richard Feynman is another interesting character in science along with the fellow who said "I Have Become Death" and he was denigrated by others who were interested in perpetuating even better ways to destroy....Teller....But as Roseann Roseanna Danna would say, "It's always somethin'' I left out John Wheeler......he may be alive and reasonable.
)))))) Another book 'The God Particle', gives the impression that soon man will discover or unveil the secrets of the universe....Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. Richard Feynman is another interesting character in science along with the fellow who said "I Have Become Death" and he was denigrated by others who were interested in perpetuating even better ways to destroy....Teller....But as Roseann Roseanna Danna would say, "It's always somethin'' I left out John Wheeler......he may be alive and reasonable.
‘The question is simple : Is reality different from our own imagination?
Case in point : You, I and many others in this thread have seen extraordinary things which cannot be explained logically.
Now Person A says : What you saw is not real and you imagined it in your head.
My response would be : How do you know that you’re not imagining typing in an Internet forum right now?
Depending on the level of denial, Person A might say things relating to touch, sight and smell which contradict their own position of objective reality and then ultimately after a lengthy discussion might say that reality is not real.
And if you say that reality is not real you are basically proving a Creator because a Creator can reveal things according to His will, to people all the time.
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Lots of people aren't capable of comprehending certain 'facts'. Some have perceptions which are not based in reality and it is difficult to convince them otherwise. And 1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
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Perhaps even more vital is understanding our own perceptions of reality
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LOL so true! And to knock down that line of their defense is somewhat vital
because it is on it that they hang pretty much everything else, which is, of course,
their pride of life, and the crux of the very thing that keeps them closed off from God.
Some I spoke with would say things like, we believe based on emotional reasons which we should not trust being that they are simply a matter of chemical brain reactions, to which I would ask, why, then, do they even trust their own thoughts? Since they are the same.
And to knock down that line of their defense is somewhat vital because it is on it that they hang pretty much everything else, which is, of course,
their pride of life, and the crux of the very thing that keeps them closed off from God.
Some I spoke with would say things like, we believe based on emotional reasons which we should not trust being that they are simply a matter of chemical brain reactions, to which I would ask, why, then, do they even trust their own thoughts? Since they are the same.
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You’re now going into a different subject again and I don’t consider Science an enemy. To me, science glorifies God.
Science is not this independent evil thing. Science is us humans asking HOW questions and many scientists in history who belived in God were Christians. In fact even today they exist. Francis Collins is one of them.
Science is not this independent evil thing. Science is us humans asking HOW questions and many scientists in history who belived in God were Christians. In fact even today they exist. Francis Collins is one of them.
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We may need to agree to disagree here. Our level of science is so far below God's capabilities is pathetic. It is mans' pride which makes him think he has 'superior' capabilities..Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
We may need to agree to disagree here. Our level of science is so far below God's capabilities is pathetic. It is mans' pride which makes him think he has 'superior' capabilities..Genesis 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
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