Christians against Christian Nationalism

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JTB

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OK you guys won. I'm just spinning my wheels here, and that's causing me to put forth a less than honest effort. Comes out of the realization that you guys (for the most part) have not just drunk the cool-aid, you've bathed in and mainlined it. I'm not wrong about the prophesies of deception, or else the Holy Spirit wouldn't keep pushing me to address it. I'm just wrong in thinking you guys are going to listen to it, especially when I'm giving a less than honest effort. My energies are better spent elsewhere.

So, enjoy the cool-aid, keep supporting the mammon worshipers, keep abandoning workers, the poor, the sick, the foreigners, and keep buying into the lies and hypocrisy of the right. I'll keep praying for you but I'm shaking the dust from my feet.
 
Dude653

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Well if you want to pass laws on Old testament principles, this is going to require a great deal of cherry picking.
There's a reason we don't Stone people to death for adultery in America
 
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Dude653 said:
The problem with Christian nationalism is they think only Christians are supposed to have rights in America and we have this thing called the Constitution that says you can't pass laws that favor anyone religion
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The problem with Christian Nationalism is that it's not real, and folks are pretending it is.
 
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JTB said:
OK you guys won. I'm just spinning my wheels here, and that's causing me to put forth a less than honest effort. Comes out of the realization that you guys (for the most part) have not just drunk the cool-aid, you've bathed in and mainlined it. I'm not wrong about the prophesies of deception, or else the Holy Spirit wouldn't keep pushing me to address it. I'm just wrong in thinking you guys are going to listen to it, especially when I'm giving a less than honest effort. My energies are better spent elsewhere.

So, enjoy the cool-aid, keep supporting the mammon worshipers, keep abandoning workers, the poor, the sick, the foreigners, and keep buying into the lies and hypocrisy of the right. I'll keep praying for you but I'm shaking the dust from my feet.
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I think you have that backward.
 
Eli1

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Now I’m very confused as to what’s happening in this thread and what you’re all discussing.

We basically have a main point which is: Christians should not be political but remain citizens of God.
 
Dude653

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Dirtman said:
The problem with Christian Nationalism is that it's not real, and folks are pretending it is.
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Of course it's real. There's a demographic in America who thinks Christianity should have special privileges over any other religion, which is unconstitutional
 
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Ive looked for a website or some kind of sign of some organization and I'm not finding it. All I see is a bunch of narrative against it.
Ya wanna talk drinking coolaid. Buying into a narrative against something that dont exist or is so minuscule that its not on any real radar is definitely drinking some coolaid.
The Holy Spirit is not directing anyone to talk about this fantasy. As far as evidence goes we have one second hand statement on a very dubious website.
 
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Dude653 said:
Of course it's real. There's a demographic in America who thinks Christianity should have special privileges over any other religion, which is unconstitutional
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Evidence? All I see is an accusation.
 
Dude653

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Dirtman said:
Evidence? All I see is an accusation.
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Texas just mandatory to put up religious posters in all schools. If that's not a violation of the Constitution I don't know what is
 
Dude653

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And then you have cuckoo's like Lauren Boebert who said people should have to pass a Bible literacy test to hold public office. Somebody's voting for these cuckoos
 
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Dude653 said:
Texas just mandatory to put up religious posters in all schools. If that's not a violation of the Constitution I don't know what is
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Wow thats a sevier misrepresentation of reality.
They passed a law that requires the US flag, State flag, and the National moto. Not religious posters.
 
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Dude653 said:
And then you have cuckoo's like Lauren Boebert who said people should have to pass a Bible literacy test to hold public office. Somebody's voting for these cuckoos
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Ya wanna have a stupid statements from govco officials contest. They say stupid junk all day every day. We could spend our lives on that one.
It still does not make a movement or political group call Christian Nationalists.
 
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They're rioting in Africa. They're starving in Spain.
There's hurricanes in Florida and Texas needs rain.

The whole world is festering with unhappy souls.
The French hate the Germans. The Germans hate the Poles.

Italians hate Yugoslavs. South Africans hate the Dutch.
And I don't like anybody very much!

But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud
For man's been endowed with a mushroom shaped cloud.

And we know for certain that some lovely day
Someone will set the spark off and we will all be blown away.

They're rioting in Africa. There's strife in Iran.
What nature doesn't do to us will be done by our fellow man.

Songwriters: Sheldon Harnick. For non-commercial use only.
 
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I believe there are Christian Nationalists. I have family members who make the false claim that the US "is a Christian nation". There is nothing Christian about aborting unborn children, a corrupt Blue Line Gang police, government officials who create and enforce laws that are unconstitutional, etc...

We can make the claim that a large part of our laws come from the English law which were heavily influenced by Christianity, but over time we have made amendments which counters any notion of a theocratic government.

Joshua 24:15 "Choose you this day whom ye shall serve... as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."

We don't need a theocratic government to worship our Heavenly Father. I am not convinced God calls for one either. I believe God wants us to have the liberty to choose Him and does not want us to do so out of obligation by a government state with the power to enforce those laws by force. You can't force someone into salvation.
 
Nehemiah6

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Dude653 said:
And then you have cuckoo's like Lauren Boebert who said people should have to pass a Bible literacy test to hold public office.
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Why is that unreasonable? It is better than having them indoctrinated with Marxism-Leninism or Satanism.
 
Iconoclast

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Amendment clause
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I understand that, but am suggesting that a change is going to come from sinners being regenerated and desiring change in the elected leaders.
No one is suggesting forcing the ungodly to try and make believe they are christians. We have enough make believe Christians as it is.
 
NotmebutHim

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In the US at least, "Christian Nationalism" is simply a progressive Christian boogeyman.

Or a strawman.

Or both.
 
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Dude653 said:
Texas just mandatory to put up religious posters in all schools. If that's not a violation of the Constitution I don't know what is
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well, the thing is that when the US became a nation, there were no muslims and all the other isms that have since either immigrated legally or skipped through the border while winking at the border patrol

things have changed and when the constitution was written, Christianity was basically the religious flavor of the day
 
iamsoandso

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Nehemiah6 said:
Why is that unreasonable? It is better than having them indoctrinated with Marxism-Leninism or Satanism.
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That's because down here in Texas the Wilks brothers are one of the largest of those who donate(other than Tim Dunn) among the Texas delegates who set together our states new platform https://www.texasobserver.org/meet-farris-wilks-kingmaker-of-the-texas-gop/ so shariah law is one thing but while Assembly of Yahweh seventh day is,,, well an whole other can of worms... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblies_of_Yahweh
 
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