Hell's Population Clock

[Magenta]

Solomon wrote somewhat about the afterlife in the book of Ecclesiastes; but
he wrote from the perspective of a man "under the sun" whereas Jesus
spoke of the afterlife as a man from Heaven (John 3:13). In my book, Jesus
is the one to hear in matters related to the afterlife because he's actually
seen it for himself, and his information trumps Solomon's.

That equates to denying the inerrancy of Scripture, and given by the Holy Spirit of God.

We also have the word of the prophets as confirmed beyond doubt. And you will do well to
pay attention to it, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning
star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture comes
from one’s own interpretation. For no such prophecy was ever brought forth by the will of
man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit

 

[Webers.Home]

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We also have the word of the prophets

Ecclesiastes isn't the word of the prophets; in point of fact, it isn't even
prophecy, rather, it's philosophy, viz: one man's world view.

There was a time in my past when I held your low opinion of Christ, until
one day somebody pointed out that God's son is preeminent, i.e. superior to
everyone that can be named; either in this life, the afterlife, in heaven, on
Earth, and even underground.

But okay, I get it. You've drawn a line in the dirt and committed to making
Solomon's views equal to, and/or superior to, Christ's; and there's no
turning back now: you've come to far. The die is cast and you're pretty
much stuck on board an express train that lets no one off till the end of line.
_

 

[Magenta]

There was a time in my past when I held your low opinion of Christ, until
one day somebody pointed out that God's son is preeminent, i.e. superior to
everyone that can be named; either in this life, the afterlife, in heaven, on
Earth, and even underground.

But okay, I get it. You've drawn a line in the dirt and committed to making
Solomon's views equal to, and/or superior to, Christ's; and there's no
turning back now: you've come to far. The die is cast and you're pretty
much stuck on board an express train that lets no one off till the end of line.
_

Such malarkey.

 

[Magenta]

But okay, I get it. You've drawn a line in the dirt and committed to making
Solomon's views equal to, and/or superior to, Christ's; and there's no
turning back now: you've come to far. The die is cast and you're pretty
much stuck on board an express train that lets no one off till the end of line.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is stupid. Proverbs 12:1

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice. Proverbs 12:15

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. Proverbs 18:2

Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you; reprove a wise man, and he will love you. Proverbs 9:8

Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence. Proverbs 15:32

Whoever heeds instruction is on the path to life, but he who rejects reproof leads others astray. Proverbs 10:17

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it. Proverbs 8:33

 

[Level72]

No God is not a sadist but a righteous Judge. So when someone flatly denies the existence of eternal Hell -- the Lake of Fire -- that person flatly calls God a liar. You are now showing your true colors.

I if you only knew the truth you wouldn't be saying such things. That's okay, you're just not there yet. You still feed off milk and can't handle strong meat. You're probably part of the mystery suncult religion that's not Christianity at all. You probably also worship Jesus and think he's God most high.

 

[Level72]

On that basis, you should not listen to yourself, either.
Since your stance is, man does not die, but exists forever after to
experience torment in the fiery depths of hell/the lake of fire.

Even though Scripture plainly states, God alone is immortal.

Christianity 101 = man puts on the immortality of Christ by grace alone through faith alone.

Beware of those people who believe in the immortal soul of mankind they think man doesn't die. That's the same lie Satan told Eve in Eden. Its a new age Alice Bailey believing doctrine thats taking the Adamic creation by storm and will be the teaching of this blasted one world religion with its push of consential suicide. The mislead chaps think the they are going to whisk off to the Milky Way and some Cosmic Paradise. It's a joke. So deceptive it will be that if it were possible it would deceive even the elect.
M much love

 

[Webers.Home]

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All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting
and training in righteousness.

FAQ: How does Ecclesiastes measure up to 2Tim 3:16-17?

REPLY: Solomon's rather pessimistic world view should be mandatory
indoctrination for every young person coming of age to prepare them for the
unpleasant fact that life on Earth is essentially an exercise in futility.

Nobel Prize winner, author of several best-selling books, and recipient of at
least a dozen honorary degrees, physicist Steven Weinberg (who views
religion as an enemy of science), in his book "The First Three Minutes"
wrote:

"The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it seems pointless.
But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some
consolation in the research itself . . . the effort to understand the universe is
one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of a
farce and gives it some of the grace of tragedy."

What a dismal appraisal. In Mr. Weinberg's opinion, the human experience
scarce escapes the categories of farce and tragedy; its quest for knowledge
seems the only thing that gives humanity any justification to exist at all. The
universe? It's just a meaningless void decorated with fascinating objects --a
carnival side show of cosmic curiosities, so to speak.

Wouldn't it be sad if we only lived and died like insects and fungi? I mean,
what would be the point of it all? That's really no more significant an
existence than that of the individuals in a bee hive or a termite colony.

Solomon's sage advice for coping with life's futility is to take up a religion; in
particular a religion whose central figure is a supreme being who has some
thoughts about how His creations ought to be conducting their affairs.

That sometimes gives people's lives a purpose. Even the great self-help guru
Dale Carnegie suggested taking up a religion. In point of fact, folks without
religion-- e.g. secular humanists --typically live out their lives like beasts and
then terminate with no more meaning than road kill; and anon their biodegradable
corpse recycles back into nature like fertilizer.

"You only go around once,
So do it with all the gusto you can get!"
Schlitz Beer Slogan

Compare that to one of Solomon's remarks:

• Ecc 9:10 . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for
there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place
to which you are going.

That's good advice for an atheist, but not especially good for young folks
coming of age; unless of course they decide to live without God.
_

 

[Level72]

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Solomon wrote somewhat about the afterlife in the ; but
he wrote from the perspective of a man "under the sun" whereas Jesus
spoke of the afterlife as a man from Heaven (John 3:13). In my book, Jesus
is the one to hear in matters related to the afterlife because he's actually
seen it for himself, and his information trumps Solomon's.

• Matt 12:42 . .The queen of the south will be raised up in the judgment
with this generation and will condemn it; because she came from the ends of
the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, but, look! something more than
Solomon is here.

• John 3:31 . . The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is
from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The
one who comes from heaven is above all.

And Jesus comes highly recommended too.

• Matt 17:5 . . This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved; listen to
him.

So then, when encountering remarks in the book of Ecclesiastes that are out
of step with Jesus; my unsolicited spiritual counseling is to take Solomon's
world view with a grain of salt and go with the heavenly view taught by "my Son".

• John 8:12 . . I am the light of the world. He that follows me will by no means
walk in darkness, but will possess the light of life.
_

Dont you know that it was the the Father's spirit that inspired Solomon to write the book of Ecc. and all the rest of the books. "For prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men AS THEY WERE MOVED BY HIS SPIRIT". You silly goose!

 

[TheLearner]

On that basis, you should not listen to yourself, either.
Since your stance is, man does not die, but exists forever after to
experience torment in the fiery depths of hell/the lake of fire.

Even though Scripture plainly states, God alone is immortal.

Christianity 101 = man puts on the immortality of Christ by grace alone through faith alone.

True Sister about God. At the Ressurrection as I outlined before, the unsaved are raised in eternal bodies, thus when put in the fire, they do not turn to ashes.

 

[TheLearner]

They've been saying that from day one.

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/1800s.php

"

• 1897 “Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874,” (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
• 1899 ” . . . the ‘battle of the great day of God Almighty’ (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth’s present rulership, is already commenced,” (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
• 1916 “The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ’s Reign, began in 1873,” (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
• 1918 “Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection,” (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
• 1922 “The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
• 1923 “Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge,” (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
• 1925 “The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time, God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year,” (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
• 1925 “It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work,” (Watchtower, Sept. 1925, p. 262).
• 1926 “Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything,” (Watchtower, p. 232).
• 1931 “There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah’s faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1914, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time. . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates for the future….” (Vindication, pp. 338, 339).
• 1941 “Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord’s provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon,” (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
• 1968 “True, there have been those in times past who predicted an ‘end to the world’, even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The ‘end’ did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God’s truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them,” (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
• 1968 “Why are you looking forward to 1975?” (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).

"https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies/

 

[TheLearner]

https://arcapologetics.org/the-end-that-wasnt-the-false-prophecies-of-the-watchtower/
https://jashow.org/articles/false-prophecy-in-the-watchtower-society/
https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/jehova...es-of-the-watchtower-bible-and-tract-society/
https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.clov.../documents/False_Prophecies_by_WatchTower.pdf

 

[TheLearner]

start at #595

 

[Magenta]

FAQ: How does Ecclesiastes measure up to 2Tim 3:16-17?

REPLY: Solomon's rather pessimistic world view should be mandatory
indoctrination for every young person coming of age to prepare them for the
unpleasant fact that life on Earth is essentially an exercise in futility.

Nobel Prize winner, author of several best-selling books, and recipient of at
least a dozen honorary degrees, physicist Steven Weinberg (who views
religion as an enemy of science), in his book "The First Three Minutes"
wrote:

"The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it seems pointless.
But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some
consolation in the research itself . . . the effort to understand the universe is
one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of a
farce and gives it some of the grace of tragedy."

What a dismal appraisal. In Mr. Weinberg's opinion, the human experience
scarce escapes the categories of farce and tragedy; its quest for knowledge
seems the only thing that gives humanity any justification to exist at all. The
universe? It's just a meaningless void decorated with fascinating objects --a
carnival side show of cosmic curiosities, so to speak.

Wouldn't it be sad if we only lived and died like insects and fungi? I mean,
what would be the point of it all? That's really no more significant an
existence than that of the individuals in a bee hive or a termite colony.

Solomon's sage advice for coping with life's futility is to take up a religion; in
particular a religion whose central figure is a supreme being who has some
thoughts about how His creations ought to be conducting their affairs.

That sometimes gives people's lives a purpose. Even the great self-help guru
Dale Carnegie suggested taking up a religion. In point of fact, folks without
religion-- e.g. secular humanists --typically live out their lives like beasts and
then terminate with no more meaning than road kill; and anon their biodegradable
corpse recycles back into nature like fertilizer.

"You only go around once,
So do it with all the gusto you can get!"
Schlitz Beer Slogan

Compare that to one of Solomon's remarks:

• Ecc 9:10 . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for
there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place
to which you are going.

That's good advice for an atheist, but not especially good for young folks
coming of age; unless of course they decide to live without God.
_

At least we have established that you do not affirm the inerrancy of Scripture.

It is also good to know you do not believe it to be Holy Spirit inspired.

I get it. You've drawn a line in the sand and there's no turning back now: you've come too far.

It's unfortunate, though. You speak of atheists but have nothing of value to offer
them without the inerrancy of Scripture. Not even anything of value to offer fellow
believers, since you do not accept that Scripture is Holy Spirit inspired.

 

[Magenta]

True Sister about God. At the Ressurrection as I outlined before, the unsaved are raised in eternal bodies, thus when put in the fire, they do not turn to ashes.

No such thing is taught in Scripture.

John 17:2

John 17:2-3~ You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You
have given Him. Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom You have sent.

 

[Mem]

About all of the English translations essentially claim Solomon's conclusion, after his musing about the vanity of life in this world, to be "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man" but the JPS Tanakh 1917 renders his statement as, "The end of the matter, all having been heard: fear God, and keep His commandments; for this is the whole man," whereas "whole" offers a sense of the "complete" man. And it is peculiar that there is no Ecc 12:13 example citations included in the Brown-Driver-Briggs explanations of the word "commandment," not even if followed to the root, though it seems to me that it suggests a keeping of an "appointment."

 

[Webers.Home]

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They've been saying that from day one.

You gotta love the Watchtower Society's predictions. They keep us
entertained.
_

 

[Level72]

l

Such malarkey.

Such malarkey is right. His understanding is that of the new age mumbo jumbo that teaches life after death without the need of The Almighty Father. You will have life after death but it's at the hands and appointed time of God Most High. Who has a name. Almighty Father, God Most High, Lord of Hosts, supreme being are concepts. No the Father is not the atmosphere or something you can attach your fancy to. Well you can, but it doesnt make it so. Thats just their indoctrinated opinion, but lets be real. The physical was created like a reflection to the spiritual. My dad has a name as so does everyone elses. Dad is a concept, a title. There are billions of dads, there are also many Jahovahs. Jahovah means lord and is a concept or title. If you rent you pay $ to your land jahovah or landlord. All have individual names because they are separate individuals. My point in writing this is the person were in debate with who iis attempting to belittle us with a comment like "I used ti think that way" followed by some sort of insult. Which lets be real here. His " supreme being" which he has likened to" atmospheric" which can be anything which equals chaos due to the fact now anybody who subscribes to such doctrine puts their god in the position of "supreme being" and there you have a war of gods thru the mind of mislead people and who becomes the most popular wins weather it be by flattery or brute force. Both this world is filled of and I cant help but liken to what Hollywood has become, and its fake and disgusting when one really takes a look at it, especially from a sober perspective. It's what star wars is. So with that being said. The first commandment says " Though shall not have any Gods but the ONE TRUE GOD aka Heavenly Father, God almighty, Most High God is still a title and a concept. He is a individual and has a name. It is Eloah Prov 30:5 the term Eloah is singular and offers no pluarality whatsoever, as the term elheim is plaur and refers to the sons of God. Eloah/Heavenly Father created the eloheim. Joshua/Jesus was created by Father thats why he declares to be the son of God. Unfortunately in English we have only one term for God and has created a lot of confusion as to who is who, but the bible is clear as to who is who. So jesus being also god/eloheim (notice the lower case g) as you would when addressing any of the sons of God. When addressing the Most High, you use a upper case G no matter what. Messiah is a concept but the individual attached to that is Joshua/aka Jesus. You probably know this but im emphasizing it because it is a salvational issue. One will NOT be granted life eternal apart from this understanding. John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they may know thee the only true God, and Jesus the Christ, whom thou hast sent." This is first and foremost what has to be established. Thats why it is the very first commandment. Without that understanding we will be all over the pritlace and then anything goes like what this silly goose is trying to push on us. So with that being said, the devil, the beast, and false prophet does have individuals attached to them. The individuals will be given a chance to repent and be baptized and receive The Fathers/ Eloah's holy spirit. Its the concept of the devil/adversary, the beast/military power, and false prophet/liars will burn in eternal torment. Which in a nutshell everybody repents as those concepts become horrible to everyone and wont ever be repeated and the eternal torment is that all rejects that behavior and hates it (if i may use those words). The lake of fire is a another subject. When a eloheim/spirit is killed they create a heavy duty fire. Even things material that have a demon attached to it. When burnt be careful it creates a large flame. I say that because when a mason excommunicates himself from the order they burn a sash of some sort. And has been known to almost burn the house down when thrown into the fire place. Anyways at the time when 1000 years are up for the demons imprisoned in tataros. They get released f weror a short time, t he remainngtime they have to fulfill exactly 6000 years, but remember Matt24 the Father cuts time short. He gives them that time and Satan and the demons gather a army and surround Jerusalem.. Then Messiah and loyal hosts go out with the power of the Fathers spirit and they kill all the demons and from all those flames of dead spirits create a lake of fire as a memorial because of a rebellion against the Most High. Thats why the concept of devil, beast, false profit will join and burn in the lake of fire. Souls dont go there. The spirits that are killed will become human and along with everyone else who lived and died, including aborted babies, known as the second and final resurrection. It is the Fathers will that none should perish, but all come to repentance 2Peter 3:9and His will will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. The Almighty God is perfect with a perfect plan and He loses not one soul!
Lachiem!

 

[Level72]

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Such malarkey is right. His understanding is that of the new age mumbo jumbo that teaches life after death without the need of The Almighty Father. You will have life after death but it's at the hands and appointed time of God Most High. Who has a name. Almighty Father, God Most High, Lord of Hosts, supreme being are concepts. No the Father is not the atmosphere or something you can attach your fancy to. Well you can, but it doesnt make it so. Thats just their indoctrinated opinion, but lets be real. The physical was created like a reflection to the spiritual. My dad has a name as so does everyone elses. Dad is a concept, a title. There are billions of dads, there are also many Jahovahs. Jahovah means lord and is a concept or title. If you rent you pay $ to your land jahovah or landlord. All have individual names because they are separate individuals. My point in writing this is the person were in debate with who iis attempting to belittle us with a comment like "I used ti think that way" followed by some sort of insult. Which lets be real here. His " supreme being" which he has likened to" atmospheric" which can be anything which equals chaos due to the fact now anybody who subscribes to such doctrine puts their god in the position of "supreme being" and there you have a war of gods thru the mind of mislead people and who becomes the most popular wins weather it be by flattery or brute force. Both this world is filled of and I cant help but liken to what Hollywood has become, and its fake and disgusting when one really takes a look at it, especially from a sober perspective. It's what star wars is. So with that being said. The first commandment says " Though shall not have any Gods but the ONE TRUE GOD aka Heavenly Father, God almighty, Most High God is still a title and a concept. He is a individual and has a name. It is Eloah Prov 30:5 the term Eloah is singular and offers no pluarality whatsoever, as the term elheim is plaur and refers to the sons of God. Eloah/Heavenly Father created the eloheim. Joshua/Jesus was created by Father thats why he declares to be the son of God. Unfortunately in English we have only one term for God and has created a lot of confusion as to who is who, but the bible is clear as to who is who. So jesus being also god/eloheim (notice the lower case g) as you would when addressing any of the sons of God. When addressing the Most High, you use a upper case G no matter what. Messiah is a concept but the individual attached to that is Joshua/aka Jesus. You probably know this but im emphasizing it because it is a salvational issue. One will NOT be granted life eternal apart from this understanding. John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they may know thee the only true God, and Jesus the Christ, whom thou hast sent." This is first and foremost what has to be established. Thats why it is the very first commandment. Without that understanding we will be all over the pritlace and then anything goes like what this silly goose is trying to push on us. So with that being said, the devil, the beast, and false prophet does have individuals attached to them. The individuals will be given a chance to repent and be baptized and receive The Fathers/ Eloah's holy spirit. Its the concept of the devil/adversary, the beast/military power, and false prophet/liars will burn in eternal torment. Which in a nutshell everybody repents as those concepts become horrible to everyone and wont ever be repeated and the eternal torment is that all rejects that behavior and hates it (if i may use those words). The lake of fire is a another subject. When a eloheim/spirit is killed they create a heavy duty fire. Even things material that have a demon attached to it. When burnt be careful it creates a large flame. I say that because when a mason excommunicates himself from the order they burn a sash of some sort. And has been known to almost burn the house down when thrown into the fire place. Anyways at the time when 1000 years are up for the demons imprisoned in tataros. They get released f weror a short time, t he remainngtime they have to fulfill exactly 6000 years, but remember Matt24 the Father cuts time short. He gives them that time and Satan and the demons gather a army and surround Jerusalem.. Then Messiah and loyal hosts go out with the power of the Fathers spirit and they kill all the demons and from all those flames of dead spirits create a lake of fire as a memorial because of a rebellion against the Most High. Thats why the concept of devil, beast, false profit will join and burn in the lake of fire. Souls dont go there. The spirits that are killed will become human and along with everyone else who lived and died, including aborted babies, known as the second and final resurrection. It is the Fathers will that none should perish, but all come to repentance 2Peter 3:9and His will will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. The Almighty God is perfect with a perfect plan and He loses not one soul!
Lachiem!

I forgot to mention. Some think im crazy saying the demons when killed will become human beings. The explanation to that is spirits can be killed and become human thru the power of the Father. Thats what happened to Messiah/Jesus. It happened to him first. That is why he is called " the firstborn among many" or "only begotton son". The Father has many sons. Jesus willfully did it first. And we see Lucifer as a man in Isaiah 14. Jesus was actually sacrificed twice. Once from spirit to a seed in a virgins womb. Then sacrificed in the flesh and nonexistent for 72 hours with the faith that his God and Father will resurrect him. John20:17

 

[Level72]

About all of the English translations essentially claim Solomon's conclusion, after his musing about the vanity of life in this world, to be "Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man" but the JPS Tanakh 1917 renders his statement as, "The end of the matter, all having been heard: fear God, and keep His commandments; for this is the whole man," whereas "whole" offers a sense of the "complete" man. And it is peculiar that there is no Ecc 12:13 example citations included in the Brown-Driver-Briggs explanations of the word "commandment," not even if followed to the root, though it seems to me that it suggests a keeping of an "appointment."

The word " complete" can also be translated as "perfect". I like complete better because the word perfect is very intimidating. In Ecc 12 he meant commandment as in the "law of God". Psalms19:17 "The law of the Lord is perfect/complete converting the soul........"

Ya gotta speak according to His commandments and testimony or you wont have enough oil in your lamp. Isaiah8:20
"And where there is no vision the people perish"

 

[Blade]

"WebersHome" knows there is no such thing as a "Hell's Population Clock". Posting so many verses out of context does not help. Matt-John no Christians and they Jews were all still living by the law. Christ dying rose.. PRAISE GOD GLORY TO JESUS.. yeah means something after that happened.

It is amazing how we treat the Great I am and His kids and creation. We talk knowing OT were we man only see flesh and God does not judge based on flesh for He only sees the heart. So if we stop lying we have no clue what so ever on how is lost. Someone can live a life with out GOD sin every day.. and at the end say "remember me". In that moment He pulls at their heart they see how unworthy they are how sinful they are how Righteous He is and repent.. all in their heart.

See some here its about you not Christ at all. Just care love the lost do we? Well we know based on the posts here how right we are and how many seem to be lost. Just what are doing about it? Willing to give up everything for this are we? I mean everything? That store, School, work.. on and on all those people we pass by where we might be the last one they ever see.

So this talk about (forgive me Father) hell is best left alone since we truly do not believe in it. Do I care about people? Since I was 13 or so I prayed all the time to see people through His eyes. He answered it 15 years later. I saw through His eyes.. so many people and I didn't see lost or saved just all these people and He was crying so hard because not one knew how much He loved them. Then finding out what He shared was like standing at the beginning of the ocean and you just taste one drop of it.

Ever wonder why after Christ rose was here 40 days never once preached or healed? He gave that authority to them/us. Were not waiting on Him.. He is waiting on us. The Church is not ready.. look how we talk here about the lost. As if its over done yet no books have been open..Church is still here. So in REV the number of those that came out of just the great tribulation of every tribe and nation.. no man could number. Now amp that up since the fall. I think mans view is a lie.

Lets have the holy Spirit USE us to witness..share what He has done in your life...who cares if we look silly stupid... praise GOD most are blind if blind according to Jesus would have no sin. Forgive me if I offended