What age range was 1 Corinthians 7:9 intended for?

[Lynx]

Age of consent? I think there are a lot of people out there making the same points he is. I have heard it. I haven't seen him say anything about wanting to marry someone very young. He's implying the young should be allowed to marry.

I am not seeing the connection - what am I missing here...???

Check his post history. He keeps starting threads on this topic. Like, a lot.

Granted, the allusion to a guy who has the age of consent map as his homepage was perhaps overstating the case.

 

[presidente]

JohnB,

Fast and pray and ask God to show you anything in yourself or any other obstacle to His sending you a wife. Spend an extended time in fasting and prayer, humbling yourself before the Lord. Ask Him to send an angel before you to help find you a wife.

 

[presidente]

Check his post history. He keeps starting threads on this topic. Like, a lot.

Granted, the allusion to a guy who has the age of consent map as his homepage was perhaps overstating the case.

What homepage?

He obviously wants to marry.

 

[JohnB]

That is an absurd interpretation of the text.

What wilt thou give me?—There is a slight tone of complaint in these words. Jehovah promised Abram a “reward great exceedingly.” He answers that no reward can really be great so long as he has no heir. Ellicott's Commentary

 

[JohnB]

JohnB,

Fast and pray and ask God to show you anything in yourself or any other obstacle to His sending you a wife. Spend an extended time in fasting and prayer, humbling yourself before the Lord. Ask Him to send an angel before you to help find you a wife.

I have done that in times past and only got silence.

 

[CS1]

But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. 1 Corinthians 7:9. what age range was this verse intended for? How young of an age?

THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY, BUT Jewish men had to study for a certain time before being considered men; some theologians say it was about 24 years of Age. for women, we see they were as young as 14, I think. I could be wrong so don't shoot me

 

[JohnB]

I don't want people falling for the purity movement or any other kind of movement that sweeps through a church. Paul said to study to show yourself approved. Research the actual meaning and context of bible verses. Even pastors can be wrong. Know their biases.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Genesis 15:2 "After these events, the word of the LORD came to Abram in a vision: “Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your very great reward.” But Abram replied, “O Lord GOD, what can You give me, since I remain childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?” Abram continued, “Behold, You have given me no offspring, so a servant in my household will be my heir.”… ".......GOD told Abraham he was his reward. Abraham's' response was Thanks but no thanks, I'm not interested. I want a son.

“GOD told Abraham he was his reward. Abraham's' response was Thanks but no thanks, I'm not interested. I want a son.”


“After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the steward of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?

And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.

And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭15:1-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[GaryA]

As they years pass your sex drive will be less and less.

Speak for yourself!

for many it will. Your sex drive at 50 is not the same as it was at 20. That time has been lost.

Yes, I know...

(Believe me - I know all about 'time lost'. The sense of regret can become very strong and powerful - "heavy on the soul" - I understand.)

Okay then. What do you eat for breakfast, and what exercises do you do? Does your wife eat and do the same? Does it work on her?

"I'll never tell..."










Just kidding...

Post #21 was mainly intended for laughs; however, if I may illustrate something...

The idea that "some things don't work quite like they use to" is about 'ability'; the desire is about 'drive'.

The ability may fade as you get older - but, for some - the drive is 'steady-as-she-goes-for-the-long-haul'.

 

[GaryA]

It is a very lonely existence.

Yes, I know...

And, it is not just about sex. It is about having a "closest friend" - that you can trust - companion/confidant/partner/etc. - to laugh with, cry with, spend time with, etc. - to show love and affection to - etc. etc. etc. - to share life with...

 

[GaryA]

It shouldnt be if the father is with you.

My father passed away; he is no longer with me - my Father, however, is with me always.

 

[GaryA]

It is not good for man to be alone....that was GOD saying, I alone am not enough for man.

I don't think He meant it quite like it sounds in this statement.

It is a matter of perspective and context.

There is 'physical'. There is 'spiritual'.

(I know what you mean.)

 

[presidente]

THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY, BUT Jewish men had to study for a certain time before being considered men; some theologians say it was about 24 years of Age. for women, we see they were as young as 14, I think. I could be wrong so don't shoot me

I do not know how old the bar mitsvah is, but boys are considered men after completing that at around age 12...maybe for the requirement to have 10 men in a synagogue.

 

[GaryA]

Paul did not say if they are betrothed. If a person is not betrothed, they still have a sex drive and can fornicate.

No, The betrothal situation is mentioned later in the chapter. This verse you quoted is after where Paul says to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife and every woman her own husband.

"My bad!"

Sorry guys - I was trying to wrap up my work lunch break today and was not paying fully focused attention...

 

[GaryA]

Paul was referring to "the unmarried and widows"...

 

[GaryA]

Check his post history. He keeps starting threads on this topic. Like, a lot.

Granted, the allusion to a guy who has the age of consent map as his homepage was perhaps overstating the case.

Do you really think he is the only one in the world who might fit the profile?

Or, are you jumping-the-gun a bit...?

 

[GaryA]

My intent is not to be harsh to you brother - just/only thought-provoking...

 

[presidente]

Check his post history. He keeps starting threads on this topic. Like, a lot.

Granted, the allusion to a guy who has the age of consent map as his homepage was perhaps overstating the case.

I find your posts a bit confusing. You posted some page about age of consent, but I see nothing connecting it to JohnB. Then you said he had age of consent as his homepage. What homepage, and what is your evidence that whatever page you saw is his homepage? Are you just writing stuff about him without any evidence?

An older man having romantic interest in a teenager under 18 can be a bit stigmatized in our society. It has to do with social norms, though, but not scripture. If Joseph was 30 and Mary was 15, like some people say, I don't see how that is sinful. They married. If her father agreed, there is no reason to accuse a couple of sin in that case. It is just taboo in our society-- kind of like cousin marriage, which isn't unbiblical, but something people in our society consider to be icky. I've got teenage daughters, and I wouldn't like an older man showing interest in them, personally, and I don't see the appeal of a 15 year old for a grown man. When I was 17, I had a cousin who was maybe 3 years older than me dating a 15 or 16-year-old from my high school. They ended up getting married. Personally, she seemed like she'd be too young for me, much less him. But that's my own sense of things, not scripture per se.

But it seems like you are implying that JohnB is too focused on age of consent, kind of a taboo thing when he's posting on the general topic of encouraging marriage, not expressing interest for teens. Do you have any evidence to back up your innuendo?

 

[GaryA]

@presidente - look carefully at the image in post #9.

 

[presidente]

Surely you don't pray that way. "Father, your grace and everlasting heavenly rewards are insufficient for me. Send wife now please."

There is a context to scripture. Paul heard 'My grace is sufficient for thee' after he had prayed for the thorn in the flesh to be taken away. So if you had some kind of illness troubling you, or someone following you around stirring up persecution and beatings, or even a giant literal thorn in your flesh causing you problems, would you _not_ pray about it and just assume God is telling you personally that His grace is sufficient for you, about that thorn?

It's not good for man to be alone- you might be "a man", but you're not "man", man.

Why would you insult a man on a Christian discussion forum like this just for wanting to get married?

God is sufficient, and 1000 wives are nothing without the Lord.

In I Corinthians Paul doesn't say, "Don't get married because God is sufficient.' He didn't even say that about his own singleness. He advised marriage for those who were not gifted as he was.

For the sake of your own rest, I implore you to consider other interpretations of the scriptures you are leaning on, which are being discussed.

What other interpretations can there be? It is pretty straight forward. Unless you are dealing with a commentator who is really left wing and doesn't have faith in the text, you get the conclusion that those who cannot contain or those who 'burn' should marry, and the other option is celibacy to focus more on the Lord. How could you come up with any other interpretation from the passage? It is rather straightforward.