What age range was 1 Corinthians 7:9 intended for?
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Its about unmarried people who can’t control thier urges
he’s saying if the us the case it’s better to marry rather than fornicate unlawfully I’m not sure age really applies
Oh no! What will all those single people do with their whole bed all to themselves, and without anyone to steal the covers?! Or wake them up with snoring, or an accidental elbow in the face or.... what a lonely existence!
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Marriage is serious business and anyone thinking all their needs will be met either has never been married or needs to study what the Bible actually says about it.
For example, are you going to love your wife as Christ loved the church? meaning sacrificially
Or would you be better off with one of those sex robots?
(sorry I know that sounds kind of gross, but so does getting married just because you have lust going on)
For example, are you going to love your wife as Christ loved the church? meaning sacrificially
Or would you be better off with one of those sex robots?
(sorry I know that sounds kind of gross, but so does getting married just because you have lust going on)
JohnB, you keep talking about the purity movement and how big of a deal it is. I have to be honest, I've never heard of it, even in the 90s which was supposed to be its heyday. I've never heard it mentioned once in any church I've attended. Can you give an example of churches that are part of this movement or follow its teachings? Where are all these churches you keep mentioning who push this?
shouldn’t mock brother some are called to be single by God others aren’t and can’t accept it
“His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.”
Matthew 19:10-12
“Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.( single )! But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. ( it’s more of a concession )
And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: but and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.”
1 Corinthians 7:1-4, 6-11 KJV
Paul tells us why if we’re married we’re concerned about many worldly things and keeping our souse happy , if we aren’t we can be better dedicated to Gods things
“But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: but he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
…The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.”
1 Corinthians 7:32-35 KJV
It’s good to marry , it’s also good to not marry either way we should be dedicated to the lord above all
really he’s saying if you are called when your married be married d if your single when called be single but if you can’t control the lust of the flesh desires marry because that’s better than fornication and to constantly be tempted
Women got married around the age of 15, boy around the ag
Speak for yourself!
for many it will. Your sex drive at 50 is not the same as it was at 20. That time has been lost.
I can't spare the time to read your morbidly inconcise filibuster posts anymore; but I assure you: I'm not gonna sit by when somebody is trying to fear other people into marriage. Have a good day.
Paul wrote during a time when most people probably worked as farmers or herdsmen (or as slaves of farmers or herdsmen. We live in a world with a more complicated economic system. If you could parse off a piece of your land for your 16-year-old son to farm, and he'd learned to farm by that age, he might be able to afford to have a wife... in a subsistence agricultural system.
But the need to satisfy physical... and emotional... urges is a good reason for a believer to decide to get married in the first place.
If you don't like a post, why go to the trouble of commenting on it? I don't see what there was to object to in Pilgramshope's posts-- mainly Bible verses along with some comments which should be uncontroversial if someone had read the passages.
We live in a society where many young people fornicate. Even young people in church fornicate. In some churches, if you were able to talk to singles, you may find that of them after a certain age, traditional college age for example, weren't virgins. So what should we as Christians do? The Bible does recommend marriage for believers to prevent fornication. But there are some different 'levers' we could consider pulling. Here are a few that come to mind:
1. Actively teaching people the word of God about fornication from a very young age (Deuteronomy 31:11-12, I Thessalonians 4:3-7.)
2. Look diligently among us to see if there is a fornicator to keep many from being defiled (Hebrews 11.)
3. Delivering fornicators in the congregation over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh and so that the leaven of
wickedness does not spread in the congregation (I Corinthians 5.)
4. Create a culture that values virginity among the single and eschews fornication (a combination of 1-3 above.)
5. Encouraging and helping those who want to marry to get married.
5a. Encourage parents to help-- 'Take wives and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons and
give your daughters to husbands, ' (Jeremiah 29:6, NKJV)
5b. Be willing to help match up Christians seeking spouses.
5c. Encourage, do not discourage, finding a spouse within the local church.
6. Make a place in your church and in your theology for those who pursue life-long celibacy to honor the Lord. (I Corinthians 7.)
7. Discourage divorce.
7a. Teach the scriptures on divorce and remarriage (e.g. Matthew 5, Matthew 19, I Corinthians 7.)
7b. Exercise church discipline in cases of adulterous divorce and remarriage.
8. Teach husbands and wives how to be good husbands and wives.
8a. Teach wives to submit to their husbands as unto the Lord, to reverence their husbands, to obey their husbands,
to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, kind, and diligent about the home.
(Ephesians 5, Colossians 3, I Peter 3, Titus 2.)
8b. Teach husbands to love their wives a Christ loved the church, to love them as their own bodies, and to
honor the wife as a weaker vessel that their prayers be not hindered. (Ephesians 5, I Peter 3.)
1. Actively teaching people the word of God about fornication from a very young age (Deuteronomy 31:11-12, I Thessalonians 4:3-7.)
2. Look diligently among us to see if there is a fornicator to keep many from being defiled (Hebrews 11.)
3. Delivering fornicators in the congregation over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh and so that the leaven of
wickedness does not spread in the congregation (I Corinthians 5.)
4. Create a culture that values virginity among the single and eschews fornication (a combination of 1-3 above.)
5. Encouraging and helping those who want to marry to get married.
5a. Encourage parents to help-- 'Take wives and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons and
give your daughters to husbands, ' (Jeremiah 29:6, NKJV)
5b. Be willing to help match up Christians seeking spouses.
5c. Encourage, do not discourage, finding a spouse within the local church.
6. Make a place in your church and in your theology for those who pursue life-long celibacy to honor the Lord. (I Corinthians 7.)
7. Discourage divorce.
7a. Teach the scriptures on divorce and remarriage (e.g. Matthew 5, Matthew 19, I Corinthians 7.)
7b. Exercise church discipline in cases of adulterous divorce and remarriage.
8. Teach husbands and wives how to be good husbands and wives.
8a. Teach wives to submit to their husbands as unto the Lord, to reverence their husbands, to obey their husbands,
to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, kind, and diligent about the home.
(Ephesians 5, Colossians 3, I Peter 3, Titus 2.)
8b. Teach husbands to love their wives a Christ loved the church, to love them as their own bodies, and to
honor the wife as a weaker vessel that their prayers be not hindered. (Ephesians 5, I Peter 3.)
I said what I objected to. It was morbidly inconcise, and pilgrimshope and I have even discussed that before.
If JohnB has a problem with my lightheartedness he can say so.
Who is 'they'? Greeks? Judeans? Galileans? Where did you get the number 18? I don't think there are any marriage-age surveys left from back then. I would imagine Ancient Near East or first century era Grecco-Roman scholars are just working with little puzzle pieces, bits and pieces of information here and there.
It is not good for man to be alone....that was GOD saying, I alone am not enough for man.
Interesting because the purity movement put fear into dating. I'm not putting fear into marriage, I'm stating the facts.
So do you mean first century Christians married at 18? How would you know? I have read and heard the theory that first century Jewish men married at 30 to girls who were about 15-years-old. A seminary grad with a doctorate from Trinity repeated that idea also. I think their field deals with too fuzzy of data to make bold pronouncements and generalizations.