Does the Bible allow for the existence of a doggie heaven?
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Well; for sure there will be pets in Messiah's millennial kingdom.
• Isa 11:6-9 . .The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall
lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling
together; and a little child shall lead them.
. . . And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down
together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall
play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the
cockatrice' den.
. . .They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth
shall be full of the knowledge of The Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
These days, children have to be taught not to lean down and pet a strange dog;
in that day it will be perfectly safe to do so.
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Well; for sure there will be pets in Messiah's millennial kingdom.
• Isa 11:6-9 . .The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall
lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling
together; and a little child shall lead them.
. . . And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down
together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. And the sucking child shall
play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the
cockatrice' den.
. . .They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth
shall be full of the knowledge of The Lord, as the waters cover the sea.
These days, children have to be taught not to lean down and pet a strange dog;
in that day it will be perfectly safe to do so.
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Allow? There is nothing in the word of God I know of that says anything about animals going to heaven. How one personally feels...yeah does not move God in anyway for God is not a man nor does He think like one. ALL that being said, everything God creates if life and it never dies. Yes in this fallen world everything dies...yet its not dead. Like Christ said if you stop them even the rocks will cry out. How? 
What does He know about creation we don't?
Where does our love mercy grace forgiveness come from? A tiny.. so small of what the everything the Father is. There will be things there we have never seen. Good luck finding your pet.. they will be somewhere having a blast
What does He know about creation we don't?Where does our love mercy grace forgiveness come from? A tiny.. so small of what the everything the Father is. There will be things there we have never seen. Good luck finding your pet.. they will be somewhere having a blast
How about trees/plants/alligators/rhinos/snails/germs? The bible says nothing about your pets having souls and being destined for heaven.
Jesus didn't offer his eternal sacrifice for your dog or any other pet.
One sad thing is that many people love their pets, dogs/cats, more than they do their own families, wives/husbands/children. I know this for a fact as I've been told so by pet owners. I love my dog more than my family. How sad is that?
Jesus didn't offer his eternal sacrifice for your dog or any other pet.
One sad thing is that many people love their pets, dogs/cats, more than they do their own families, wives/husbands/children. I know this for a fact as I've been told so by pet owners. I love my dog more than my family. How sad is that?
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• Gen 2:7d . . and man became a living soul.
The Hebrew word translated "soul" is nephesh (neh'-fesh) which isn't unique
to human life.
Its first appearance is at Gen 1:20-21 in reference to aqua creatures and
winged creatures; again at Gen 1:24 as terra creatures; and again in Gen 2:7
as the human creature; and yet again at Gen 9:10 to classify all life aboard
Noah's ark.
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• Gen 2:7d . . and man became a living soul.
The Hebrew word translated "soul" is nephesh (neh'-fesh) which isn't unique
to human life.
Its first appearance is at Gen 1:20-21 in reference to aqua creatures and
winged creatures; again at Gen 1:24 as terra creatures; and again in Gen 2:7
as the human creature; and yet again at Gen 9:10 to classify all life aboard
Noah's ark.
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Animals appear to have living souls in the same sense that humans do. Genesis refers to this as the “breath of life.” Hence why the word soul translates to breath. See Genesis 2:7 and Genesis 7:15 for example.
You also need to determine if the soul of man is immortal. Man does not receive eternal life except through Christ, otherwise they perish as John 3:16 says.
That being the case, animals do not need a savior because, as far as we know, they don’t break any one of Gods laws. Sin is the transgression of God’s law and the wages of sin is death. So if animals have a soul, don’t sin, then it can’t be ruled out that they can live forever.
Non-humans things can sin and face God’s judgement. In Revelation 20 death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. To understand how death and hell sinned, that’s a different subject all together for another thread.
As far as the resurrection goes, the Bible doesn’t say anything about animal resurrection. The only possibility I can think of is there might be animals in the New Earth when all things are made new according to Revelation 21.
Bottom line is don’t assume there will be animals again in the new creation, but it’s possible because it isn’t confirmed or denied.
You also need to determine if the soul of man is immortal. Man does not receive eternal life except through Christ, otherwise they perish as John 3:16 says.
That being the case, animals do not need a savior because, as far as we know, they don’t break any one of Gods laws. Sin is the transgression of God’s law and the wages of sin is death. So if animals have a soul, don’t sin, then it can’t be ruled out that they can live forever.
Non-humans things can sin and face God’s judgement. In Revelation 20 death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. To understand how death and hell sinned, that’s a different subject all together for another thread.
As far as the resurrection goes, the Bible doesn’t say anything about animal resurrection. The only possibility I can think of is there might be animals in the New Earth when all things are made new according to Revelation 21.
Bottom line is don’t assume there will be animals again in the new creation, but it’s possible because it isn’t confirmed or denied.
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Also, in almost every account of people's NDE (near death experience), they saw family pets there. One account of a young girl who arrived in heaven before her family, was her being greeted by Jesus and a family cat who ran and jumped into her arms. This relaxed her as other kids joined in on her joy.
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The grace of God goes far beyond what we can imagine. I miss my many pets too.
Only if the Lord were to surprise me would I have them back. But remember if you are 100% sure, and for the right reason, of heaven then that is the only way to find out some day. When this young lady dies of diabetes some day, will she be with her friend?
God only knows. The Bible does not say, but you can have a home in heaven if you spend a few minutes watch the video following this.
100% Way of ending up on a renewed Earth with many animals for pets and Jesus as Ruler.
Only if the Lord were to surprise me would I have them back. But remember if you are 100% sure, and for the right reason, of heaven then that is the only way to find out some day. When this young lady dies of diabetes some day, will she be with her friend?
God only knows. The Bible does not say, but you can have a home in heaven if you spend a few minutes watch the video following this.
100% Way of ending up on a renewed Earth with many animals for pets and Jesus as Ruler.
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Allow? There is nothing in the word of God I know of that says anything about animals going to heaven. How one personally feels...yeah does not move God in anyway for God is not a man nor does He think like one. ALL that being said, everything God creates if life and it never dies. Yes in this fallen world everything dies...yet its not dead. Like Christ said if you stop them even the rocks will cry out. How? What does He know about creation we don't?
Where does our love mercy grace forgiveness come from? A tiny.. so small of what the everything the Father is. There will be things there we have never seen. Good luck finding your pet.. they will be somewhere having a blast
What does He know about creation we don't?Where does our love mercy grace forgiveness come from? A tiny.. so small of what the everything the Father is. There will be things there we have never seen. Good luck finding your pet.. they will be somewhere having a blast
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I never used the word evil, just don't trust anyone who claims they've been to heaven and seen things. It can bring about false worship and seeking experiences instead of the word of God.
Colossians 2
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Colossians 2
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Genesis 9:5 ESV And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man.
My thinking is how can God require a reckoning from every beast that kills a man, unless there is some sort of judgement for animals? And if there is a judgement for some animals, surely there is a judgement for all? This is not enough to base a doctrine on, but it seems enough to me (with the other arguments posted by Runningman, such as the fact that animals do not require a saviour), that there may be an afterlife for animals.
My thinking is how can God require a reckoning from every beast that kills a man, unless there is some sort of judgement for animals? And if there is a judgement for some animals, surely there is a judgement for all? This is not enough to base a doctrine on, but it seems enough to me (with the other arguments posted by Runningman, such as the fact that animals do not require a saviour), that there may be an afterlife for animals.
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• Gen 1:27a . . God created man in His own image, in the image of God
He created him;
Man is the only creature on Earth that God made in His own image. No other
critter in the animal kingdom shares that distinction.
Man came into existence as a conscionable being, whereas the animal
kingdom came into existence with no feelings about right and wrong and/or
good and evil, viz: animals are sentient beings but they aren't moral beings.
So then, why does God require the death penalty for an animal when it kills
a human seeing as how animals haven't a clue they've done anything wrong?
Well obviously for safety reasons, for example:
• Ex 21:28-29 . . If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox
shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the
ox shall be quit.
. . . But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath
been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath
killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be
put to death.
Murder is a moral issue only because of humanity's image of God. Were it
not for that, people could hunt each other like game animals and mount
their heads as trophies. In other words; murder is only wrong because it's a
sacrilege. James says cursing is wrong for the same reason. (Jas 3:9)
* I don't know if it's possible to convict an animal of sacrilege but to my
knowledge nobody thus far has tried.
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• Gen 1:27a . . God created man in His own image, in the image of God
He created him;
Man is the only creature on Earth that God made in His own image. No other
critter in the animal kingdom shares that distinction.
Man came into existence as a conscionable being, whereas the animal
kingdom came into existence with no feelings about right and wrong and/or
good and evil, viz: animals are sentient beings but they aren't moral beings.
So then, why does God require the death penalty for an animal when it kills
a human seeing as how animals haven't a clue they've done anything wrong?
Well obviously for safety reasons, for example:
• Ex 21:28-29 . . If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox
shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the
ox shall be quit.
. . . But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath
been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath
killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be
put to death.
Murder is a moral issue only because of humanity's image of God. Were it
not for that, people could hunt each other like game animals and mount
their heads as trophies. In other words; murder is only wrong because it's a
sacrilege. James says cursing is wrong for the same reason. (Jas 3:9)
* I don't know if it's possible to convict an animal of sacrilege but to my
knowledge nobody thus far has tried.
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