Is accepting Christ enough to be saved?
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MOST pastors are worse than used car salesmen according to the Bible.
A used car salesmen might lie about the car they sell you, but a pastor who lies about salvation leads people to an eternity of suffering.
As to giving, I've noticed that the minority of wonderful generous people are the few that God provides a true Minister's needs through. The rest are selfish.
A used car salesmen might lie about the car they sell you, but a pastor who lies about salvation leads people to an eternity of suffering.
As to giving, I've noticed that the minority of wonderful generous people are the few that God provides a true Minister's needs through. The rest are selfish.
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You seem to indicate that the church is evil and unnecessary. In fact it was Jesus Himself who founded His Church and he made two promises. Firstly He promised to be with His Church til the end of time and secondly, He promised that Satan and the gates of Hell would not stand against it.
So who do I believe, you or Jesus. Jesus thought the Church is important, so I'll stick with Jesus. But thanks for your input.
So who do I believe, you or Jesus. Jesus thought the Church is important, so I'll stick with Jesus. But thanks for your input.
yes brother it’s the continuing deception of grace that erases Gods words like in Eden it’s really the devils only plot He knows “ if o can get them to not believe what Jesus has clearly said will save them , they won’t be saved “
he already knows Gods word can save us if we hear it and believe he knew it in Eden “ if they don’t eat the fruit like God told them they will live “ so he says “ don’t listen to God listen to me instead “
that’s all it took and all it takes now if he can convince us that what God said isnt for us or doesn’t apply because of “ grace “ the. He’s able to turn our ears away from truth and to fables
he does this by using false teachers just like he was I. Eden teaching theM The fruit wouldnt hurt them he’s a deceiver the first thing he always needs to do is turn ears from the truth if I can nicely convince you the gospel isn’t meant for you to believe and here I’ve then got you deceived and whatever I’m saying is a fable
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
we all have the truth before us satan is now working to snatch it from us because he knows better than we do it’s all true and infallible
he already knows Gods word can save us if we hear it and believe he knew it in Eden “ if they don’t eat the fruit like God told them they will live “ so he says “ don’t listen to God listen to me instead “
that’s all it took and all it takes now if he can convince us that what God said isnt for us or doesn’t apply because of “ grace “ the. He’s able to turn our ears away from truth and to fables
he does this by using false teachers just like he was I. Eden teaching theM The fruit wouldnt hurt them he’s a deceiver the first thing he always needs to do is turn ears from the truth if I can nicely convince you the gospel isn’t meant for you to believe and here I’ve then got you deceived and whatever I’m saying is a fable
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV
we all have the truth before us satan is now working to snatch it from us because he knows better than we do it’s all true and infallible
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You do realize, of course, There is Scripture Of HOW to accomplish this, Correct?:
Instead of proposing the idea that "works WILL follow AND prove salvation,"
should we not rather use Scripture Correctly, while studying? ie:
God's ETERNAL Salvation:
our works "that Did NOT/will Never Save us, as HIS BLOOD Did":
GRACE And Peace...
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"Study to shew thyself Approved Unto Him, a workman that needeth
not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth." (2Ti 2:15)
Instead of proposing the idea that "works WILL follow AND prove salvation,"
should we not rather use Scripture Correctly, while studying? ie:
God's ETERNAL Salvation:
"For By Grace are ye Saved Through faith; and that Not of yourselves:
it is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
our works "that Did NOT/will Never Save us, as HIS BLOOD Did":
"For we are His Workmanship, Created in Christ Jesus Unto good works,
which God Hath Before Ordained that we should walk in them."
(Eph 2:8-10 cp 1Co 3:8-15 = will ALL the Saved "receive rewards"?)
GRACE And Peace...
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God's ETERNAL Life Insurance
And what exactly was Jesus telling them to repent of?
And how many sins have you committed since coming to the Lord?
Interesting that you chose to omit verse 1 and 2. Hmmm....
John 15
New King James Version
The True Vine
15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
"He takes away" is ONE Greek word. AIR'O. And this is what it means:
◄ 142. airó ►
The rebellion you speak of is defined right in this passage!
We need to put CHRIST in RIGHT position. HE, is the One who saves us. HE, is the One who keeps us saved. Any Gospel that strays from that Truth is a man made Gospel.
And how many sins have you committed since coming to the Lord?
Interesting that you chose to omit verse 1 and 2. Hmmm....
John 15
New King James Version
The True Vine
15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit.
"He takes away" is ONE Greek word. AIR'O. And this is what it means:
◄ 142. airó ►
airó: to raise, take up, lift
So those that are IN Jesus, but DO NOT bear fruit, God removes, or takes up. They have no ministry, and God may prematurely take their Earthly life.
They will stand before the judgement seat of Christ receiving no rewards.
They will be among the LEAST in the Kingdom, only there because Jesus is their foundation. BUT, they WILL be in the Kingdom.
Jesus differentiates these people, and what happens to them, with those that ARE NOT IN HIM!
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
To summarize. Those that ARE in Him, but produce no fruit, He takes up, but are saved. Those that are NOT in Him, he is cut off, and tossed in the fire.
VERY important distinction.
This is how the natural man thinks. No Christian I know of ever says "It's ok to sin because Jesus paid for it".So those that are IN Jesus, but DO NOT bear fruit, God removes, or takes up. They have no ministry, and God may prematurely take their Earthly life.
They will stand before the judgement seat of Christ receiving no rewards.
They will be among the LEAST in the Kingdom, only there because Jesus is their foundation. BUT, they WILL be in the Kingdom.
Jesus differentiates these people, and what happens to them, with those that ARE NOT IN HIM!
6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
To summarize. Those that ARE in Him, but produce no fruit, He takes up, but are saved. Those that are NOT in Him, he is cut off, and tossed in the fire.
VERY important distinction.
The rebellion you speak of is defined right in this passage!
We need to put CHRIST in RIGHT position. HE, is the One who saves us. HE, is the One who keeps us saved. Any Gospel that strays from that Truth is a man made Gospel.
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“And what exactly was Jesus telling them to repent of?”
It’s basic read what he’s talking about he’s referring to sinners in scriptire and then asks “ do you think your not going to end up like those sinners ?” Then he says “ I tell you nay !! Expect you repent you also will All perish “
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And how many sins have you committed since coming to the Lord?”
That’s no business of yours, that’s one glory of the gospel you mind your own business and deal wi the Jesus based on your own works and then you don’t worry about other people.
“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
Romans 14:10-12
that includes you too as does this here
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11
if you can’t accept that it’s between you and him but to act like it’s an offense to mention the truth sort of shoes we have work to do on our own self , part of that is to be judging your own self and repenting when you realize your in the wrong and not be taking the position when someone mentions repentance , “ wellHow many sins do you do mr self righteous “ lol it’s just immaturity I get that but it’s also funny because I’m old and do t really have time to engage
the bottom line is God will never condone sin , God will never tell us “ it’s okay to sin now everyone does it don’t worry about repenting now you have grace and faith that means you don’t need to repent and obey the gospel “
He will however always tell us to hear what Jesus taught in the gospel and believe and follow after the faith it creates in a believer
repentance is just let of the gospel ot really is nothing to get in a huff about brother just part of what makes our mind change is to change from “ we’re all just sinners and can’t do right “ to “ God has filled us with his Holy Spirit and has given us everything we need to repent of serving the devils Will ( sin ) nd to start serving Gods Will ( the gospel )
if we can’t see the part where Gods calling us to repent we’re missing the boat literally
It’s basic read what he’s talking about he’s referring to sinners in scriptire and then asks “ do you think your not going to end up like those sinners ?” Then he says “ I tell you nay !! Expect you repent you also will All perish “
“
And how many sins have you committed since coming to the Lord?”
That’s no business of yours, that’s one glory of the gospel you mind your own business and deal wi the Jesus based on your own works and then you don’t worry about other people.
“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
Romans 14:10-12
that includes you too as does this here
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11
if you can’t accept that it’s between you and him but to act like it’s an offense to mention the truth sort of shoes we have work to do on our own self , part of that is to be judging your own self and repenting when you realize your in the wrong and not be taking the position when someone mentions repentance , “ wellHow many sins do you do mr self righteous “ lol it’s just immaturity I get that but it’s also funny because I’m old and do t really have time to engage
the bottom line is God will never condone sin , God will never tell us “ it’s okay to sin now everyone does it don’t worry about repenting now you have grace and faith that means you don’t need to repent and obey the gospel “
He will however always tell us to hear what Jesus taught in the gospel and believe and follow after the faith it creates in a believer
repentance is just let of the gospel ot really is nothing to get in a huff about brother just part of what makes our mind change is to change from “ we’re all just sinners and can’t do right “ to “ God has filled us with his Holy Spirit and has given us everything we need to repent of serving the devils Will ( sin ) nd to start serving Gods Will ( the gospel )
if we can’t see the part where Gods calling us to repent we’re missing the boat literally
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