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Okay i could be wrong about the frequency of miracles, because like you say the amount actually written isn't all there is.
But.. as you go through the NT books, in chronological order you do find them being mentioned less and less.
From Peter Masters..in regards to the apostles
'When churches had grown and multiplied Peter went to Lydda and then Joppa famously healing Aenus and raising Dorcas from the dead. Entire communities were astonished , because none of the other believers in such places could do such things.'
Page 5 , 'Proving the charismatic gifts have ceased'
But.. as you go through the NT books, in chronological order you do find them being mentioned less and less.
From Peter Masters..in regards to the apostles
'When churches had grown and multiplied Peter went to Lydda and then Joppa famously healing Aenus and raising Dorcas from the dead. Entire communities were astonished , because none of the other believers in such places could do such things.'
Page 5 , 'Proving the charismatic gifts have ceased'
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Correct, IF any of the Bible study Rules are violated! When they were obeyed
and followed in the study Approval Unto God/TWO Different Gospels, then
there is NO:
Then why is it that diligent Bible students, have prayerfully and Carefully
studied and found, these 18 Bible Differences + #19 is here, Between
God's TWO Different Programs And TWO Different Gospels!
Amen?
GRACE And Peace...
and followed in the study Approval Unto God/TWO Different Gospels, then
there is NO:
Then why is it that diligent Bible students, have prayerfully and Carefully
studied and found, these 18 Bible Differences + #19 is here, Between
God's TWO Different Programs And TWO Different Gospels!
Amen?
GRACE And Peace...
R
I know God heals. I also know that sometimes He does not. He heals who He chooses and does not those He chooses. I do not question the reason.
As for cancer, That is close to home.
There is a lady in our church that has been fighting cancer for 20 years. She may very well be losing this fight.
She has never complained. She always praises God for the blessing of her life.
Only those close to her know how much she has suffered.
She is an inspiration to all who know her situation.
BUT, for someone to suggest she has not been healed because she lacks faith or is not loved by God for some reason is a stupid belief.
As for cancer, That is close to home.
There is a lady in our church that has been fighting cancer for 20 years. She may very well be losing this fight.
She has never complained. She always praises God for the blessing of her life.
Only those close to her know how much she has suffered.
She is an inspiration to all who know her situation.
BUT, for someone to suggest she has not been healed because she lacks faith or is not loved by God for some reason is a stupid belief.
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Good post as usual @GRACE_ambassador your posts make interesting discussions, I'm sure there are too many that go out and try to make disciples of all nations not even understanding the message that reconciles, not having the power or authority to do a thing, The message revealed to Paul does bring the message of reconciliation through the blood of Jesus, the gospel Jesus revealed to him after Jesus died for our sins raising from the dead and ascending to heaven, The offer to the world of Gods Grace through faith in Jesus, Hey looks like your teaching Grace instead of Works....
Hey If Grace and truth came by Jesus do you think Paul was the first Grace ambassador, at least to the Gentiles
Hey If Grace and truth came by Jesus do you think Paul was the first Grace ambassador, at least to the Gentiles
You can't go by Peter Masters, who in the world is Peter Masters? or come to that John MacArthur? they can't come along 2, 000 years later and make statements like the gifts of the Holy Spirit have ceased ... by what then are they ministering? it can only be human scholarship, human wisdom.
The canon of scripture is closed, you can't add to it. The exhortation we have in scripture is "earnestly desire the higher gifts especially that you might prophesy" "you might all speak in tongues"
These exhortations are no-where cancelled.
The canon of scripture is closed, you can't add to it. The exhortation we have in scripture is "earnestly desire the higher gifts especially that you might prophesy" "you might all speak in tongues"
These exhortations are no-where cancelled.
Thanks for your reply, sir. It is a very common response to point to Paul's admonishing to desire the 'higher ' or 'best gifts' especially that they may prophecy '...
The thing with this and any passage is it is aimed at whoever is being written to, as you would know. So it is meant for the church at Corinth for distribution to other churches at that time.
From that point then we need to see whether there is anything beyond this time of writing that would affect whether this is meant to continue.
So then this is where the completing of the canon, death of the apostles and destruction of the temple happen after this point... which all affect the operation of the gifts of the Spirit.. especially the sign gifts.
Peace
The thing with this and any passage is it is aimed at whoever is being written to, as you would know. So it is meant for the church at Corinth for distribution to other churches at that time.
From that point then we need to see whether there is anything beyond this time of writing that would affect whether this is meant to continue.
So then this is where the completing of the canon, death of the apostles and destruction of the temple happen after this point... which all affect the operation of the gifts of the Spirit.. especially the sign gifts.
Peace
I'm not going to split hairs with you. Suffice to say I see verses out of context and meaning not the same as what the context shows. Anyone can proof text scripture to support just about anything they want. It's the reason for many denominations and some are cults. So my impression of Stam is not too good. I'm sure he and the Bereans have lots of good things to say, but I'm not interested in joining.
And so I simply disagree with you and Stam that there are two different gospels that are valid, one for Jews and a different one for gentiles. No, I completely disagree about that. There is one gospel and one only, just as there is one universal church and one only, as Paul declares in Eph.
And so I simply disagree with you and Stam that there are two different gospels that are valid, one for Jews and a different one for gentiles. No, I completely disagree about that. There is one gospel and one only, just as there is one universal church and one only, as Paul declares in Eph.
I quoted you the completed canon ... not you or John MacArthur [who incidentally I like] can come along 2, 000 years later and add your surmises to it.
Anything Paul wrote to the Ephesians, the Colossians, Roman's or Corinthians is for us. otherwise you'll be taking a pair of scissors to the bible.
..."love is a more excellent way" oh I don't see much love around, must be God has ceased pouring out His love upon the church
What else are you going to cut out from the bible?
Anything Paul wrote to the Ephesians, the Colossians, Roman's or Corinthians is for us. otherwise you'll be taking a pair of scissors to the bible.
..."love is a more excellent way" oh I don't see much love around, must be God has ceased pouring out His love upon the church
What else are you going to cut out from the bible?
More additional information for prayerful/Careful review, ok?:
What The Great Commission Does and DOES NOT Say
GRACE, Peace, And JOY...
What The Great Commission Does and DOES NOT Say
GRACE, Peace, And JOY...