Trump 24

[JTB]

When haven't all these things been true--including the first century?

Well, they have. Nothing in end times prophesy is actually new, these things have been happening since Christ ascended. What's unique to the end is that they will be at a scale never seen before. You know, like a scale large enough to bring down the world's biggest economy.

 

[JTB]

And it would be good to remember all those verses were actually written to people in the first century

AAAH, so you read from the MRV Bible.

 

[ZNP]

Well, they have. Nothing in end times prophesy is actually new, these things have been happening since Christ ascended. What's unique to the end is that they will be at a scale never seen before. You know, like a scale large enough to bring down the world's biggest economy.

JTB can't take anything you say as credible till you back up this claim

“Jesus is not on the ballot. Yet trump and his cronies insist that He is on the ballot under trumps name.” Post #51 on the thread Trump 24.

I have asked for the name of the person who has done this and a citation for at least one crony and for Trump. I asked in both post #54 and #56 on that same thread. The only citation JTB has given is Mike Lindell who is a friend of Trump but the citation did not make any claim that Trump is Jesus incarnated, instead the quote had Mike saying that he felt that Trump was chosen by God and that his election was miraculous and an answer to the prayers of the believers. All of that can be strongly supported by the way in which Trump was elected, his moving the embassy to Jerusalem on the year of the Jubilee, and his appointment of 3 pro life judges resulting in Roe V. Wade being overturned, especially when you consider RBG dying one month before the election. Samson chose the jawbone of an ass to defeat the Midianites, doesn't mean the jawbone of an ass is Jesus incarnate or some cult leader.

If JTB's claim is true I want to see it. This would support his other wild tin foil hat claims of Trump being the Antichrist and of Trump being a cult leader. If it is false it is ungodly slander that JTB accuses others of engaging in.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Makeya a little wager here ... lord trump will be hit with things that would politically kill anyone else, and he will arise from the ashes to take the win in 24 riding a "Christian" wave.

One of his first acts will be to broker a deal that allows the Israelis to rebuild their temple. "Christians" around the world will cheer.

Then in 3 1/5 years when it's finished, he'll move in.

Since "Eschatology" is nothing more that a "Religious term" for "RANK SPECULATION", I'll pass on the "wager".

HEY!! I've still got my copy of "88 reasons the Rapture will be in 1988". It PROVES Biblically, beyond any shadow of doubt that in 1988 we Christians will be OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Surprise!!!!

 

[Cameron143]

Well, they have. Nothing in end times prophesy is actually new, these things have been happening since Christ ascended. What's unique to the end is that they will be at a scale never seen before. You know, like a scale large enough to bring down the world's biggest economy.

Do you have verses to support this?

 

[Cameron143]

AAAH, so you read from the MRV Bible.

Not sure what this means but I generally read KJV

 

[Cameron143]

Since "Eschatology" is nothing more that a "Religious term" for "RANK SPECULATION", I'll pass on the "wager".

HEY!! I've still got my copy of "88 reasons the Rapture will be in 1988". It PROVES Biblically, beyond any shadow of doubt that in 1988 we Christians will be OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Surprise!!!!

Perhaps the remnant was much smaller than imagined

 

[ZNP]

Since "Eschatology" is nothing more that a "Religious term" for "RANK SPECULATION", I'll pass on the "wager".

HEY!! I've still got my copy of "88 reasons the Rapture will be in 1988". It PROVES Biblically, beyond any shadow of doubt that in 1988 we Christians will be OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Surprise!!!!

So what do we do with Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

We have been told a thief is coming. We are supposed to be on watch and you seem to be saying we don't need to listen to the Lord's word here to be on watch for His coming? Surely you cannot mean that we should not obey the Lord's command so can you clarify what you are saying?

The Lord's coming is likened to a woman giving birth. People will often think Braxton Hicks contractions are birth pains, but that doesn't mean the woman isn't pregnant and isn't about to give birth. Just because some new dad made a mistake is no reason to stop being watchful. So I can see why someone would say that the "due date" for a birth is "rank speculation" but it is useful. No doctor would tell the expectant parents that the baby will definitely be born on this day, and yet doctors will always give you a due date.

Luke 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.

 

[ZNP]

HEY!! I've still got my copy of "88 reasons the Rapture will be in 1988". It PROVES Biblically, beyond any shadow of doubt that in 1988 we Christians will be OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Surprise!!!!

I never got that book. According to Joel there must be a worldwide shutdown of the economy due to a pandemic. Joel says this shutdown is God declaring a sabbath rest and that is because the day of the Lord is at hand. So relax, until we see something like that we will know the Lord is not returning yet.

 

[Polar]

Empty barrels make noise ... sorry I'm not getting the reference.

Yes actual believers are looking up at the cross ... not sideways at the elephant and donkey

what you said:

Too many Christians these days are looking for a political figure who'll save them from Godless liberals. Because of this, they will miss their Christ when He comes for them.

That's nonsense. If you belong to Jesus you will not miss Him

He certainly will not miss you.

 

[Polar]

These are the signs I read...

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but do not know how to apply

quelle dommage

 

[Polar]

That's the problem with trumpets. You can show them hard and fast evidence, and they'll still stick to the disproven lie.

One thing I learned long ago is that if a point has been made 100 times and rejected every time, my parroting it for a 101st time aint gonna change that.

The truth is out there. You just have to be willing to question what you think you know to have it.

That ain't gonna happen either for trumspters.

More nonsense

You are not the goalpost when it comes to truth

 

[ZNP]

what you said:


That's nonsense. If you belong to Jesus you will not miss Him

He certainly will not miss you.

According to JTB Trump is a cult leader who claims that he is Jesus incarnate and his cronies also make this claim.

So far the only citations that have been given are something Kizinger said and some book that was published but wasn't written by either Trump or his cronies. So he JTB has made a good case that Trump's enemies are making this claim, but I have asked him repeatedly to show where Trump or his cronies made this claim and I am still waiting. He made this claim in post #51 on Monday, today is Thursday, still waiting.

 

[Polar]

I think you're replying to someone I've got on ignore. But if you're talking about Killary, yeah she trump and a whole host of others ought to be sharing a cell.

No. The great queen of misinformation should be on an island without any way to create more misinformation

We could call it 'Looking for my Hill to die on'

 

[Polar]

According to JTB Trump is a cult leader who claims that he is Jesus incarnate and his cronies also make this claim.

So far the only citations that have been given are something Kizinger said and some book that was published but wasn't written by either Trump or his cronies. So he JTB has made a good case that Trump's enemies are making this claim, but I have asked him repeatedly to show where Trump or his cronies made this claim and I am still waiting.

He's too busy cracking his knuckles which distracts him from pulling up those sources to substantiate his mumblings

 

[ZNP]

No. The great queen of misinformation should be on an island without any way to create more misinformation

We could call it 'Looking for my Hill to die on'

He is ignoring my request for a citation to back up his claims on post #51.

 

[Polar]

This countries destruction has come at the hands of BOTH parties, since saint Reagan. And it's not just monopoly money doing it.

But going belly up has to happen. The USA is not a player in the end times, so it has to be removed from the world stage. And both parties are doing an excellent job of that!

oh hello

are you a duplicate account for the person I asked the question of?

probably just trying to control the dialogue then, right?

 

[Polar]

He is ignoring my request for a citation to back up his claims on post #51.

I addressed that a page or 2 back

here: post # 102

came with a gif for those who believe that a picture is worth all that blabbing

 

[Polar]

Golf ... https://www.politifact.com/article/2017/aug/01/who-plays-more-golf-donald-trump-or-barack-obama/

Classified items and destroying evidence? Yep they've all done those

Stolen election? Ok, where the kool-aid jug. And you SERIOUSLY think the only way the left can win is by cheating? You're drinking doubles.

trump did some good things. So did Hitler. All of them have their good and bad. What makes trump and his cronies so different IS THEIR CLAIM TO BE ACTING FOR GOD. That's going to cost many believers to fall.

trump and Jesus on the ballot? You musta missed Posthumans post.

The irony indeed. We were warned thousands of years ago about this, yet here we are neck deep in it. Oh the irony.

Are the bubbles you are blowing from your gum blocking your eyesight?

Hitler is dead and in hell. Trump is alive and the left is trying to put him in hell.

Who are you acting for? I have never said or thought Trump is an answer to prayer.

Yes the election was stolen.

I think you are simply using the term 'believers' and your supposed 'fear' for their future, as a tool for continuing your rhetoric

not buying it in case you have difficulty interpreting what I said

 

[ZNP]

why? the dems don't back up their claims and see them destroying the country?

if you repeat your lies often enough, even you will believe them. been going on for years now

JTB? suffers from the malady of speak first, sound like you know what you are talking about, and go dark when someone asks you prove it, but keep repeating what you said with no substantiation and you will get someone somewhere to agree with you

monkey see monkey do

Because you can't let people lie to you, that is why. When someone makes a major claim like he did you have to have proof. Otherwise we just let people slander without any accountability.

If Trump actually did make the claim that He is Jesus incarnate and his cronies are also making this claim, then that is huge, it proves JTB's claim that it is a cult.

On the other hand if he is lying about this it proves that this entire story is made up by those who are trying to destroy Trump, that also is huge.