Biden shuts down Amish Farm

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Temple-C

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I agree that the Amish should be allowed to raise, harvest, prepare and purchase their food in Accordance with their religious beliefs.

However this happened over a month ago. It wasn't Biden, that did this. It began in 2020 when Amos(the farmer) signed a concent degree acknowledging he was violating an FDA injunction. He only just saw the judge in June due to covid slowing down the court system. If it wasn't for covid he would have saw the judge in 2020 and would have been raided under Trump's watch.

Here is the original story before it was politicized by the media.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2021...pt-by-federal-court-for-eastern-pennsylvania/
 

HealthAndHappiness

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For years they tried and succeeded to do the same with dairy farmers. Families that don't cook the milk for instance would give it away for asking. Someone would set them up and force money on them. Next thing they are raided, closed and fined big.
Is there a connection to the food plant arsons? God only knows, but Bill Gates, China CCP and other Billionaires are buying up American farms and water rights for a reason. They are pushing meatless "meat" and insects too. One more thing, look at farmers around the world, like the Netherlands.
Call me a "conspiracy theorist", but I think the fallen ones have something planned and are beginning a new phase. Food and water is a control mechanism according to Henry Kissinger, or the demon who inspired him.
 

Dude653

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I agree that the Amish should be allowed to raise, harvest, prepare and purchase their food in Accordance with their religious beliefs.

However this happened over a month ago. It wasn't Biden, that did this. It began in 2020 when Amos(the farmer) signed a concent degree acknowledging he was violating an FDA injunction. He only just saw the judge in June due to covid slowing down the court system. If it wasn't for covid he would have saw the judge in 2020 and would have been raided under Trump's watch.

Here is the original story before it was politicized by the media.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2021...pt-by-federal-court-for-eastern-pennsylvania/
I knew there was probably more to the story than Fox News was presenting.
Fox News lost me years ago when they spent an entire six minutes talking about why Mr Rogers is bad for kids.
Fox News is a right-wing propaganda machine. Also nobody's going after churches
 

Dude653

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And this guy really just said milk is turning kids trans.
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Dirtman

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First off the president of the USA doesn't give direct orders or even indirect orders in situations like this. This is agencies acting with in their "jurisdiction". This is just evidence that we do not want or need these alphabet soup bureaucracies.
 

Dude653

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First off the president of the USA doesn't give direct orders or even indirect orders in situations like this. This is agencies acting with in their "jurisdiction". This is just evidence that we do not want or need these alphabet soup bureaucracies.
I will have to look more into this before I form my own opinion but I'm not just going to take the word of a right-wing propaganda source
Someone earlier mentioned it was something about FDA regulations.
Anything involving food is going to have strict regulations, for obvious reasons
 
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RichMan

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First off the president of the USA doesn't give direct orders or even indirect orders in situations like this. This is agencies acting with in their "jurisdiction". This is just evidence that we do not want or need these alphabet soup bureaucracies.
Seems people like to give presidents more credit for things they like and more blame for things they do not like when in fact they have very little or no control over the situation.
 

Dirtman

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I will have to look more into this before I form my own opinion but I'm not just going to take the word of a right-wing propaganda source
Someone earlier mentioned it was something about FDA regulations.
Anything involving food is going to have strict regulations, for obvious reasons
Yea, I was just doing some equipment repairs yesterday and read on a lubricant package, FDA food grade approved bio lube. Warning product maybe be fatal if ingested or inhaled.
I have zero faith in any of the alphabet soup govco agencies. In fact if it were up to me there would be no federal government as we know it. The nation would be run by a confederation of governors and their decisions be ratified by a constitutional hearing.
 

Dude653

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Yea, I was just doing some equipment repairs yesterday and read on a lubricant package, FDA food grade approved bio lube. Warning product maybe be fatal if ingested or inhaled.
I have zero faith in any of the alphabet soup govco agencies. In fact if it were up to me there would be no federal government as we know it. The nation would be run by a confederation of governors and their decisions be ratified by a constitutional hearing.
I'm pretty sure Fox News has admitted in court that they just make stuff up. He lost me when he said milk is turning kids trans 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
 

Dirtman

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I'm pretty sure Fox News has admitted in court that they just make stuff up. He lost me when he said milk is turning kids trans 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I dont watch fox or any other lame stream media propaganda network. They are all liars.
 

Dirtman

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Seems people like to give presidents more credit for things they like and more blame for things they do not like when in fact they have very little or no control over the situation.
Generally speaking yes.
I'm probably a conspiracy nut, but I dont think the presidents are anything more than a puppet, and elections are games for the masses. A post modernist gladiatorial game.
 

Handyman62

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I dont watch fox or any other lame stream media propaganda network. They are all liars.

Can you back up your statement with proof that everyone at Fox news are liars? I'm sure not everyone there gets the story right every time, but does that make them liars? Or does that make them just like you and me?
 

Dirtman

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Can you back up your statement with proof that everyone at Fox news are liars? I'm sure not everyone there gets the story right every time, but does that make them liars? Or does that make them just like you and me?
I said all lame stream media are liars.
 

Dirtman

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I wish people could read two sentences for what they say rather than impart their emotion upon the statement.
 
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Gojira

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I knew there was probably more to the story than Fox News was presenting.
Fox News lost me years ago when they spent an entire six minutes talking about why Mr Rogers is bad for kids.
Fox News is a right-wing propaganda machine. Also nobody's going after churches
CNN, The NY Times, The Washington Post, MSNBC, etc., etc., are all Leftist rags. They deliberately leave stories out or spin them in the favor of the Left -- until it become politically expedient to tell the truth. Latest example? The Hunter Biden laptop.

As for churches, it is true that the FBI is not (yet) dragging people out of their pews and into camps. However, progressives want Christians powerless. They have tried to push legislation, like the so-called Equality Act, which would have directly impacted the first amendment rights of Christian organizations. And idiots like Mark Kelly here in AZ supported that. Leftists like Antifa and BLM have attacked churches -- and been bailed out by the Leftist woman who became our VP. Kids in public schools around the country are having their traditional views attacked and eroded by their teachers and professors. If you speak up against this, you're a terrorist.

Now, if you're a Muslim and are against same-sex marriage or abortion, you are totally outside their radar.

That conservatives in general are far more targeted than Leftists shows the bias. And, that you can only see wrongs from the Right, shows your own biases.

I'll acknowledge that what happened on Jan 6th was ridiculous, and anyone who went in and caused havoc should be punished. Do you think the Leftist rioters of 2020 should be prosecuted? Or perhaps bailed out like Kamala did through the MFF?

Don't give me this garbage that the problem is the Right. The American Left today is Fascist. The Right is not and never has been.
 

Dirtman

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So since you can't back up your statement with any proof?
The OP video is based in dishonesty. Blaming Biden when this started in 2020.
Its stupid to think a person can post a critique of all lame stream media dishonesty on a forum.
Look how the media covered covid, the Russian evasion into Ukraine. Use your own eyes and mind.
 

Handyman62

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The OP video is based in dishonesty. Blaming Biden when this started in 2020.
Its stupid to think a person can post a critique of all lame stream media dishonesty on a forum.
Look how the media covered covid, the Russian evasion into Ukraine. Use your own eyes and mind.
I use my eyes and mind. AND they tell me it's a lie to say that all those in media are liars. Yes most in the media are lying, but there are also many that are trying to get the truth out, and that includes many on the Fox news channel. Do they get it completely right every time? NO! because nobody gets it right every time.