BELIEFS ABOUT THE KJV
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I would use the word "optimal" rather than "viable". I used to dislike the King James version, because who King James was. I'm not so difficult now days.
There are a couple of KJVO diehards around here. You won't get anywhere by reasoning with them.
I've tried numerous times. All you will get is pretentious religious posturing, insinuations that you are stupid
and false allegations of corruption regarding manuscripts and morals.
They've been debunked on every point in detail, several times but they will make the same charges again.
They are not content to read the KJV and be happy with it, they feel they must rubbish every other translation.
You might as well bash your head against a wall as engage with them.
Wow! Now the above was a clear, straight-forward post that really says all that needs to be said about this thread.
In the original post #1 points 1,2,3,4,6 are well-written, true and straight-forward. But then post # 5 is mostly merely opinion:
It states "The truth is modern versions are much better than the KJV." (Opinion!) Then it says, "The KJV is not a readable version compared to many modern versions because of its archaisms and obscure literal renderings." (Opinion) Then it says: "The KJV was based on late and inferior Greek texts while the modern versions are based upon much older and much more reliable Greek texts." (Opinion!)
An approach that on the basis of mere opinion tries to say that the KJV is not a viable and valuable translation for today is just as bad as the KJV "only" approach that says all modern translations are of the devil.
Ha! Well said! I just hope we don't have people who are just the opposite -- people who dogmaticaly throw out the KJV and the valuable contributions it has and still gives to the English Christian church.
Most of here value the KJV and many still use it as a primary translation. But most of us (not all LOL!) do not say that the KJV is the best or the only English translation that should be used.
When you say that the KJV is no longer a "viable" translation - I disagree because I understand and use and read the KJV a lot and it blesses my soul!
But if for someone else (which is the case for many people in different settings than mine) they can read and understand another translation better, then that is the best choice for them.
Every translation changes the language otherwise we would be all be reading Greek, Hebrew & Aramaic.
The archaic language makes is very difficult to understand this translation. Have you read the entire kjv bible a few times and understood all of it, or did you have to use an Oxford Dictionary to learn what some of the ancient words mean? (double work)
Agreed the language is old . Examples of the words you understand to difficult to understand? Reading almost anything there are often words i need to look -up.
Well thanks OP but when you make some statements with nothing to back it up just your words means nothing. Has no weight. Its clear you don't want to use the KJV then don't. You no offense have not dug into this very deep. Some of your statement's are wrong.
See for me there is no perfect translation. Just Hebrew/Greek you can find so many that do not agree with each other.
Heres the kicker WHO leads and guides us into all truth? Just WHO are we relying on to help us understand that scripture? Wise to look into the org meaning not just one translation but a few. Pray and seek ask Him.. so just ONLY having the KJV.. trust me He will tell you show you help you understand what it really says. What HE not the writer but what HE was saying. He can really do anything unless we are telling Him what It really says..He will say nothing.
See for me there is no perfect translation. Just Hebrew/Greek you can find so many that do not agree with each other.
Heres the kicker WHO leads and guides us into all truth? Just WHO are we relying on to help us understand that scripture? Wise to look into the org meaning not just one translation but a few. Pray and seek ask Him.. so just ONLY having the KJV.. trust me He will tell you show you help you understand what it really says. What HE not the writer but what HE was saying. He can really do anything unless we are telling Him what It really says..He will say nothing.
It amazes me how people spend so much time trying to find fault with the Holy Bible instead of studing Scripture and seeking understanding through the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit.
It serves ZERO purpose to try and find fault with Gods Word. Well, I suppose it serves one purpose........... separation from God.
It serves ZERO purpose to try and find fault with Gods Word. Well, I suppose it serves one purpose........... separation from God.
Preservation is not a "complete" thing; it's an ongoing thing, and it has nothing to do with English.
As your reasons for using the KJV, and defenses thereof, are not the same as those of John146, you may ignore my comments to him.
Whelp, that's a gamechanger. I did not hitherto realize that all 17th-century Englishmen were stupid illiterate morons who were completely unusable by God.
Sorry about all that previous hullaballoo I just spouted off in the previous posts.
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Here are some examples,
https://dustoffthebible.com/Blog-ar...d-outdated-words-in-the-king-james-bible-kjv/