Weaponized FBI and DOJ searching Mar-L -lago

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ZNP

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This really doesn't make sense

The news says that the DOJ is against the releasing of the affidavit that was used for the probable cause for the warrant saying it could compromise their investigation.

What? They said they had 12 Whitehouse staffers as witnesses and they have been investigating for 18 months.

If you say the search warrant was simply part of an investigation it feeds the narrative that this was a fishing exercise. Don't say that, if you say that it will galvanize the Republicans and strengthen the narrative that the DOJ has been weaponized against Republicans. This will split the country in two.

No what we need right now to unite the country is transparency. Once you do something public like raid the President's house it is too late to be "protecting the integrity of the investigation", now it is time to arrest the president, charge him, and let's hear the probably cause.

The Democrats have Midterms in less than three months. They need this for their campaign ads. If you refuse to do this it will make it look like this is a big bluff. Five years ago that worked with Mueller, but now only the most gullible and brain dead will still fall for that.
 

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Once you do something public like raid the President's house it is too late to be "protecting the integrity of the investigation", now it is time to arrest the president, charge him, and let's hear the probably cause.
You've got it backwards (sarcastically?). Without establishing probable cause first there can be no warrant, and without a warrant there can be no legal raid. Therefore this was ILLEGAL, ILLEGITIMATE, AND CRIMINAL. So now who will arrest Biden, Harris, Garland, Wray, Strzok, and Comey? Perhaps Obama, Rice, and Holder should be included.
 

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BREAKING: Biden administration tells judge not to unseal affidavit for Mar-a-Lago search

https://thepostmillennial.com/break...avit-for-mar-a-lago-search?utm_campaign=64487

This is a mistake, it feeds the narrative that this was a political witch hunt by the deep state, the swamp creatures that Trump is going to drain and skin.

Trump Attorney to Newsmax: DOJ Against Independent Review

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/trump-alina-habba-raid/2022/08/15/id/1083137/

Again, big mistake. What Biden should do is get an independent review and unseal the affidavit. Trump has already agreed. Also they should charge him and give him his day in court. The longer they wait the more people will lose confidence in them.
 

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You've got it backwards (sarcastically?). Without establishing probable cause first there can be no warrant, and without a warrant there can be no legal raid. Therefore this was ILLEGAL, ILLEGITIMATE, AND CRIMINAL. So now who will arrest Biden, Harris, Garland, Wray, Strzok, and Comey? Perhaps Obama, Rice, and Holder should be included.
This is what I am worried about, if they don't go ahead and charge him with the crime it just looks like a bunch of criminals in the FBI and DOJ are going after Trump. It seems to me that you have 12 eyewitnesses who worked in the Whitehouse, you have spent 18 months on this investigation making sure you got it right, and you have now played your hand with this raid. You have the documents, you have the probable cause, you have the witnesses, now charge him and let's go to court.

I am reminded of the movie Goodfellas, once they raided and searched his house they led him out in handcuffs. You don't get a warrant to search and seize stuff from the ex presidents house unless it is the very last piece of the puzzle. Stop talking about the "integrity of the investigation". The entire world is now aware of this investigation and if you don't arrest Trump it looks like the DOJ are the criminals.

Tucker Carlson is the highest rated news show in the US and he is ripping the DOJ and FBI as a bunch of fascists. Regardless of whether or not you agree with him, you have to respect that he is influential and you are losing the narrative. Get out in front of this now! Appoint an independent judge to review everything, not some former Epstein lawyer, that just feeds the conspiracy theory of the Clintons and Pedophile island. Also unseal the affidavit, full transparency, it is time to go to court!
 

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The longer they wait the more people will lose confidence in them.
People have already lost confidence in Biden and his thugs. So the only thing left is GESTAPO TACTICS AND TOTALITARIAN INTIMIDATION. Which means that Special Forces should be arresting all the domestic enemies right now -- this week. Or have they become a part of the attack on America?
 

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People have already lost confidence in Biden and his thugs. So the only thing left is GESTAPO TACTICS AND TOTALITARIAN INTIMIDATION. Which means that Special Forces should be arresting all the domestic enemies right now -- this week. Or have they become a part of the attack on America?
With what army? You would need to hire close to 100,000 agents. Didn't you even hear what Kamala Harris said, this is all about supporting the rule of law and those who enforce the law.
 

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This is obstruction of justice

CBS news reported that the FBI did not take the passports and that it was a lie being disseminated by Trump. Now we learn that the FBI did take the passports and just returned them. CBS has to fire some people, how do you slander people telling the truth, and spread a lie like that?

CBS knows that taking things that were not on the warrant was a violation of Trump's constitutional rights. This isn't the "reporting of the news" this is obstruction of justice.
 

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People have already lost confidence in Biden and his thugs. So the only thing left is GESTAPO TACTICS AND TOTALITARIAN INTIMIDATION. Which means that Special Forces should be arresting all the domestic enemies right now -- this week. Or have they become a part of the attack on America?
The more I read your posts the more I am starting to think you don't trust our government.
 

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It's my understanding that Trump was in possession of some government documents and was ordered to turn them over, he refused so the FBI got a warrant and took them
According to the DOJ they violated Trump's constitutional rights when they went outside the scope of the warrant and took his Passport.
 

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I think it is safe to conclude, even before we learn what if anything will come of this raid, that this was one of the most inept raids, a complete embarrassment to the FBI and DOJ.

1. Judge recused themself in a trial between Trump and Clinton but doesn't recuse themself on signing this warrant?

2. FBI agents involved in this raid were involved in Russiagate collusion hoax making everything seized in the raid fruit of the poisoned tree.

3. The Whitehouse denied having anything to do with it making it appear that the FBI had gone rogue.

4. Days later Merrick Garland admits he approved this and yet never advised Biden.

5. He claims to be transparent while refusing to give the details.

6. When a copy of the warrant is made public it supports the theory that this was a fishing trip.

7. Now the DOJ is trying to prevent the affidavit being made public even though Trump has asked that it be made public.

8. Today the DOJ admits they violated Trump's constitutional rights by taking his passport which was not listed in the warrant.
 

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According to the DOJ they violated Trump's constitutional rights when they went outside the scope of the warrant and took his Passport.
What about the violation of Trump's constitutional rights when they declared him guilty until proven innocent? And this was long ago. Back in 2016 and the conspiracy to destroy Trump and nullify his presidency. Taking those passports was merely icing on the cake. Raiding his home was illegal. And the Russian Collusion Hoax was SEDITION AND TREASON. So who will hang for these crimes?
 

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Raiding his home was illegal. And the Russian Collusion Hoax was SEDITION AND TREASON. So who will hang for these crimes?
They meant it for evil but God will use it for good.

I don't know that raiding the house was illegal. It was unprecedented, it appears to be evil, it appears to be weaponizing the DOJ to go after your political opponents, and the Bible says we should avoid the appearance of evil.

1Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.


I would argue that the first step in fixing this is to fire everyone who violated the law in taking anything that was not on the warrant. That means if someone gave the orders to take it they need to be fired as well.

Second, Merrick Garland has two options, either he resigns in shame or he holds a complete press conference where he answers every question the media asks including making the affidavit public and explaining what the probable cause was. Your investigation has already been compromised. You can never bring anything taken in that raid into court because the judge was compromised, the agents were compromised, and the DOJ has publicly admitted they violated his constitutional rights.
 
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It's good that God is meting His Justice against Trump through the authorities that He has ordained. I hope justice is fully served against Trump.
 

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It's good that God is meting His Justice against Trump through the authorities that He has ordained. I hope justice is fully served against Trump.
With what judgement you judge you shall be judged and with what measure you mete it will be meted out to you.

As for me I hope that Trump has received forgiveness for his sins and is washed in the blood of the Lord Jesus.
 
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With what judgement you judge you shall be judged and with what measure you mete it will be meted out to you.

As for me I hope that Trump has received forgiveness for his sins and is washed in the blood of the Lord Jesus.
I'm not making any judgement whatsoever, so I don't know why you're talking about judgement. But I am upholding God's Word where He tells us explicitly that He will mete out His Justice through earthly governmental authority which are His Ministers of Justice. I'm sorry that you are averse to His Word on that issue, as that does not preclude Trump (or anyone) from salvation although they might be punished under earthly law. (For example, you can be saved and forgiven of your sins but you still would have to pay a speeding ticket if you speed and God's ministers catch you.) Why are you against God's Word on this?
 

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With what judgement you judge you shall be judged and with what measure you mete it will be meted out to you.

As for me I hope that Trump has received forgiveness for his sins and is washed in the blood of the Lord Jesus.


Okay you get a brownie point but next time anyone brings up anything about Trump and the crew just remember that what your suppose to do is start addressing it and then change the the subject to Hunters laptop or Hillery's emails or something similar you know all the stuff we teach the little minions...
 

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It's good that God is meting His Justice against Trump through the authorities that He has ordained. I hope justice is fully served against Trump.
Do you really believe that all the witch hunts against Trump are "justice"? Or have you failed to heed God's warning to judge righteously? The so-called Justice Department is now the Injustice Department. The American government is presently in the hands of criminals and traitors. Those are not the "authorities" God had in mind. Their principles are as follows:

LIES ARE TRUTH
SLAVERY IS FREEDOM
INJUSTICE IS JUSTICE
TYRANNY IS DEMOCRACY
 

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Yes Nehemiah... It seems the common thread among those who claim to be His, but are being separated from His Sheep, is the love of hate and a love to hate, to hate His own.
The truth is not in them.
 

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Don't forget Venezuela's Socialism failure. Though Sanders thinks they're a great role model for our economy.

I think that is exactly where 'they' are taking America....
I just recently came across this very interesting sermon on 'Socialism' (along with Marxism) which discussed Venezuela's failure and how the United States is heading down that same destructive path. It's eerie to see the same similarities in methods used to take down Venezuela by their corrupt government that this corrupt administration is also using now to take down America. It's time to wake up America!!!