Be Ignitable Part One

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Roughsoul1991

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Be Ignitable

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Breathe oxygen – holy spirit

John 20:22 ESV 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

To be ignitable, we need oxygen. In kindling a fire, we often have to add oxygen through the blowing of air into the mixture of the fuel and the heat. With enough oxygen, enough heat, and enough fuel, a chemical reaction will occur as combustion begins to burn.

Being filled with the Holy Spirit is different than the indwelling or baptism of the Spirit. Being filled with the Spirit is the power that Christ has promised to all those who put their faith in Him. You see this as evident in Acts 2 where at Pentecost all in the house was filled with the Spirit.

Acts 2:1-4 NIV
2 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.

In 2 Peter 1:21 we are given an explanation on how the Spirit often works in those who follow God.

2 Peter 1:21 NIV
21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Notice the words being carried by the Holy Spirit. This word in Greek is translated as,
5342. pheró
Strong's Concordance
Definition: to bear, carry, bring forth
Usage: I carry, bear, bring; I conduct, lead; perhaps: I make publicly known.

The Holy Spirit carries, leads, brings, you now bear the seal of the Spirit and the Spirit will move in both private and public in order for God’s will to be done in the follower of Christ. We carry the very breathe of God in our lungs that keeps us alive as long as God chooses to sustain us.

Genesis 2:7
New International Version
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[a] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
The very Words of God in the Bible are considered life giving and God breathed. The Words themselves being life but due to our sin we realize we are dead and in need of saving.

2 Timothy 3:16
New International Version
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

In Ephesians 4:13-15, we must think of being carried by the Spirit like a sailboat in the sea. The sails must be filled by the wind in order to move the vessel. In order to reach the desired destination, the rudder must be pointed in the same direction at a certain degree to get optimal speed.

Ephesians 4:13-15
New International Version
13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. 14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.

If you catch the wrong wind, it can steer you off course. If you do not steer with the wind you will equally be making your vessel steer off course or restraining the full effectiveness of the wind.

Like the blowing of the wind, it can be felt and as you the individual begins to heat up for the Lord, you will see an impact around you.

Conduction in terms of fire is the method by which heat is transferred via direct contact.
We can transfer the same power within us by direct contact with other people. As we evangelize, disciple, or practice the gifts of the Spirit, we will see the Spirit move directly in those around us. It may be in the means of giving a perfect word to someone in need, the laying of hands to bring healing, or as you disciple, the fire within you may jump into them as well.

Convection in the terms of fire is the transfer of heat by the movement of air or liquid. For example, warm air in a building will rise to the upper floors.
The Spirit like the day of Pentecost can spread and fill the whole church, a whole nation, or the home. It just needs a spark and a proper environment that is inviting to the Spirit. If the church, nation, or the homes promote an environment that is ignitable for the Spirit, we can see a revival in the Church, the nation, or in the homes.

Radiation in terms of fire occurs when heat travels via waves through the air, such as when the sun warms the Earth by radiating heat.
Prayer can be sent forth for the Spirit to intervene within events or the lives of those within the world. James 5:16 states that a prayer of a righteous person has great power.

James 5:16 ESV
16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.[a] Or The effective prayer of a righteous person has great power.

Prayer can radiate across the globe or as close as the house next door. We should never forget that the radiation of the Spirit can ignite others from any distance.

2 Timothy 1:6 reminds us to fan into flame the gift of God which resides within us. God gave us a Spirit not of fear but of power which enables us to live out the holy attributes of God.

2 Timothy 1:6-7 ESV
6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, 7 for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
 
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Be Ignitable

View attachment 242244

Breathe oxygen – holy spirit

John 20:22 ESV 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

To be ignitable, we need oxygen. In kindling a fire, we often have to add oxygen through the blowing of air into the mixture of the fuel and the heat. With enough oxygen, enough heat, and enough fuel, a chemical reaction will occur as combustion begins to burn.

Being filled with the Holy Spirit is different than the indwelling or baptism of the Spirit. Being filled with the Spirit is the power that Christ has promised to all those who put their faith in Him. You see this as evident in Acts 2 where at Pentecost all in the house was filled with the Spirit.

Acts 2:1-4 NIV
2 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.

In 2 Peter 1:21 we are given an explanation on how the Spirit often works in those who follow God.

2 Peter 1:21 NIV
21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Notice the words being carried by the Holy Spirit. This word in Greek is translated as,
5342. pheró
Strong's Concordance
Definition: to bear, carry, bring forth
Usage: I carry, bear, bring; I conduct, lead; perhaps: I make publicly known.

The Holy Spirit carries, leads, brings, you now bear the seal of the Spirit and the Spirit will move in both private and public in order for God’s will to be done in the follower of Christ. We carry the very breathe of God in our lungs that keeps us alive as long as God chooses to sustain us.

Genesis 2:7
New International Version
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[a] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
The very Words of God in the Bible are considered life giving and God breathed. The Words themselves being life but due to our sin we realize we are dead and in need of saving.

2 Timothy 3:16
New International Version
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

In Ephesians 4:13-15, we must think of being carried by the Spirit like a sailboat in the sea. The sails must be filled by the wind in order to move the vessel. In order to reach the desired destination, the rudder must be pointed in the same direction at a certain degree to get optimal speed.

Ephesians 4:13-15
New International Version
13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. 14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.

If you catch the wrong wind, it can steer you off course. If you do not steer with the wind you will equally be making your vessel steer off course or restraining the full effectiveness of the wind.

Like the blowing of the wind, it can be felt and as you the individual begins to heat up for the Lord, you will see an impact around you.

Conduction in terms of fire is the method by which heat is transferred via direct contact.
We can transfer the same power within us by direct contact with other people. As we evangelize, disciple, or practice the gifts of the Spirit, we will see the Spirit move directly in those around us. It may be in the means of giving a perfect word to someone in need, the laying of hands to bring healing, or as you disciple, the fire within you may jump into them as well.

Convection in the terms of fire is the transfer of heat by the movement of air or liquid. For example, warm air in a building will rise to the upper floors.
The Spirit like the day of Pentecost can spread and fill the whole church, a whole nation, or the home. It just needs a spark and a proper environment that is inviting to the Spirit. If the church, nation, or the homes promote an environment that is ignitable for the Spirit, we can see a revival in the Church, the nation, or in the homes.

Radiation in terms of fire occurs when heat travels via waves through the air, such as when the sun warms the Earth by radiating heat.
Prayer can be sent forth for the Spirit to intervene within events or the lives of those within the world. James 5:16 states that a prayer of a righteous person has great power.

James 5:16 ESV
16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.[a] Or The effective prayer of a righteous person has great power.

Prayer can radiate across the globe or as close as the house next door. We should never forget that the radiation of the Spirit can ignite others from any distance.

2 Timothy 1:6 reminds us to fan into flame the gift of God which resides within us. God gave us a Spirit not of fear but of power which enables us to live out the holy attributes of God.

2 Timothy 1:6-7 ESV
6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, 7 for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
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Be Ignitable

View attachment 242244

Breathe oxygen – holy spirit

John 20:22 ESV 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.

To be ignitable, we need oxygen. In kindling a fire, we often have to add oxygen through the blowing of air into the mixture of the fuel and the heat. With enough oxygen, enough heat, and enough fuel, a chemical reaction will occur as combustion begins to burn.

Being filled with the Holy Spirit is different than the indwelling or baptism of the Spirit. Being filled with the Spirit is the power that Christ has promised to all those who put their faith in Him. You see this as evident in Acts 2 where at Pentecost all in the house was filled with the Spirit.

Acts 2:1-4 NIV
2 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.

In 2 Peter 1:21 we are given an explanation on how the Spirit often works in those who follow God.

2 Peter 1:21 NIV
21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Notice the words being carried by the Holy Spirit. This word in Greek is translated as,
5342. pheró
Strong's Concordance
Definition: to bear, carry, bring forth
Usage: I carry, bear, bring; I conduct, lead; perhaps: I make publicly known.

The Holy Spirit carries, leads, brings, you now bear the seal of the Spirit and the Spirit will move in both private and public in order for God’s will to be done in the follower of Christ. We carry the very breathe of God in our lungs that keeps us alive as long as God chooses to sustain us.

Genesis 2:7
New International Version
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[a] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
The very Words of God in the Bible are considered life giving and God breathed. The Words themselves being life but due to our sin we realize we are dead and in need of saving.

2 Timothy 3:16
New International Version
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

In Ephesians 4:13-15, we must think of being carried by the Spirit like a sailboat in the sea. The sails must be filled by the wind in order to move the vessel. In order to reach the desired destination, the rudder must be pointed in the same direction at a certain degree to get optimal speed.

Ephesians 4:13-15
New International Version
13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. 14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.

If you catch the wrong wind, it can steer you off course. If you do not steer with the wind you will equally be making your vessel steer off course or restraining the full effectiveness of the wind.

Like the blowing of the wind, it can be felt and as you the individual begins to heat up for the Lord, you will see an impact around you.

Conduction in terms of fire is the method by which heat is transferred via direct contact.
We can transfer the same power within us by direct contact with other people. As we evangelize, disciple, or practice the gifts of the Spirit, we will see the Spirit move directly in those around us. It may be in the means of giving a perfect word to someone in need, the laying of hands to bring healing, or as you disciple, the fire within you may jump into them as well.

Convection in the terms of fire is the transfer of heat by the movement of air or liquid. For example, warm air in a building will rise to the upper floors.
The Spirit like the day of Pentecost can spread and fill the whole church, a whole nation, or the home. It just needs a spark and a proper environment that is inviting to the Spirit. If the church, nation, or the homes promote an environment that is ignitable for the Spirit, we can see a revival in the Church, the nation, or in the homes.

Radiation in terms of fire occurs when heat travels via waves through the air, such as when the sun warms the Earth by radiating heat.
Prayer can be sent forth for the Spirit to intervene within events or the lives of those within the world. James 5:16 states that a prayer of a righteous person has great power.

James 5:16 ESV
16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.[a] Or The effective prayer of a righteous person has great power.

Prayer can radiate across the globe or as close as the house next door. We should never forget that the radiation of the Spirit can ignite others from any distance.

2 Timothy 1:6 reminds us to fan into flame the gift of God which resides within us. God gave us a Spirit not of fear but of power which enables us to live out the holy attributes of God.

2 Timothy 1:6-7 ESV
6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, 7 for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.
Excellent Summation!

better not let a Cessasionist apply this, they might begin to Prophecy, gain Knowledge, and Speak in Tongues as the Holy Spirit gives Utterance!
 

Aaron56

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Regarding radiation…

“The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being…”
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yes! Absolutely incredible images!
really Makes you think huh ? About verses like this

“By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

of course kjv

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it really makes me wonder what his plans for all that space and all those galaxies and solar systems out there


it really makes me feel tiny
And makes me realize how little we really know abo anything beyond our present home
 

Aaron56

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really Makes you think huh ? About verses like this

“By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

of course kjv

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it really makes me wonder what his plans for all that space and all those galaxies and solar systems out there


it really makes me feel tiny
And makes me realize how little we really know abo anything beyond our present home
"..of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end." :D
 

Roughsoul1991

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really Makes you think huh ? About verses like this

“By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

of course kjv

“Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it really makes me wonder what his plans for all that space and all those galaxies and solar systems out there


it really makes me feel tiny
And makes me realize how little we really know abo anything beyond our present home
I believe His plan was to bring life for us.

Think about how other stars and planets contributed to Earth. Space dust, meteors, gravity, matter, etc have contributed to life on Earth. We literally contain elements of space dust within us. God created man from the dust of the ground.

Everything is designed for us.
 

Pilgrimshope

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"..of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end." :D
“Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

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I believe His plan was to bring life for us.

Think about how other stars and planets contributed to Earth. Space dust, meteors, gravity, matter, etc have contributed to life on Earth. We literally contain elements of space dust within us. God created man from the dust of the ground.

Everything is designed for us.
yeah our solar system I agree , but they are seeing entire galaxies and solar systems orbiting stars like the sun outside the Bubble surrounding our solar system

Entirely other galaxies and systems

I’m just saying who really knows what God has done already somewhere out there nd what he has prepared for us in the future
 

Aaron56

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“Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬
".. before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

That was one of those deep breaths. Simply amazing times we live in!
 

Pilgrimshope

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".. before they spring forth I tell you of them.”

That was one of those deep breaths. Simply amazing times we live in!
amen that’s prophecy God telling us the course ahead he’s decided upon before it happens , so when it happens we’ll know his word is true always

from this

“And God said, Let there be light: ( cause )

and there was light.” ( effect )
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to this

cause the same creators word speaking first what will be created ahead

“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭7:14

Eventual effect , the Virgin Mary gives birth to Jesus Christ and Emmanuel is revealed to mean “ God with us “


“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet,

saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, And they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is the key to understanding the Bible God always says what’s going to happen first “ God said let there be light “

that’s the same operation of our salvation



“For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:5-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬


In other words the gospel is when we hear and believe the light being spoken into our hearts because we hear and believe him , so the knowledge in the gospel is being conveyed into our beliefs because we first believe it then brings the effect like how prophecy works

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

what I mean is that if we hear it and believe is in us the same as when God said “ let there be light “ and then light came from what he said

so our salvation comes from what he said about our salvation. To hear Jesus preach and teach the gospel is like God saying “ let them be saved “ and the effect is going to be “ and they were saved “

“New things , before they come I tell you of them “

“Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭60:2‬ ‭

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭5:14-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬

Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭51:4‬ ‭
 

Pilgrimshope

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I believe His plan was to bring life for us.

Think about how other stars and planets contributed to Earth. Space dust, meteors, gravity, matter, etc have contributed to life on Earth. We literally contain elements of space dust within us. God created man from the dust of the ground.

Everything is designed for us.


“Everything is designed for us.”

“Think about how other stars and planets contributed to Earth.”


“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:

and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17

“For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭66:22‬ ‭KJV‬

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10, 13‬ ‭

Heaven and earth shall pass away,

but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:13-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Heaven and earth shall pass away,

but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to a believer of the kingdom readying to part this world

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭23:43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to the church later

“Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

…we are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:6, 8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them. They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭48:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;

and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof:

but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:17‬ ‭

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭


It seems this creation we know is doomed to end heaven and earth he created in the beginning which would be our solar system like your saying how the planets interact with the earths revolution like a clock sort of precise and everything has a function

the amazing thing about the Webb telescope to me anyways in my mind , is to wonder just what is out there because all of it is Gods work and like your saying it’s all meant in some way for us in Christ
And it’s not knowable they see it but they can’t understand it it’s too far to ever reach or visit but seeing it is proof it existed in time and that means what’s really there now , is hidden because it takes millions of years for the light to reach us

so something else glorious like what we’re seeing In The images is there , so far away in distance that we won’t see it’s glory for a billion years measuring from our perspective

eternity is endless and the universe seems to reflect the infinite and ever expanding nature of God we can see proof that he’s created more Han we know because we see it far off , but we can never know unless he somehow makes it known

maybe this is also for us ???



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Roughsoul1991

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yeah our solar system I agree , but they are seeing entire galaxies and solar systems orbiting stars like the sun outside the Bubble surrounding our solar system

Entirely other galaxies and systems

I’m just saying who really knows what God has done already somewhere out there nd what he has prepared for us in the future
I even believe those are necessary for our solar system to give life.

If anything it could be as simple as evidence to show us just how powerful and intelligent God is.